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tsisqua
04-05-2004, 12:15 PM
Well, it just came to my door about an hour ago. Downloaded the drivers, Cat 4.3. I installed everything and started playing tracks.

The most awesome thing is I have FSAA and Anisotropic filtering W I D E open, and the FR's aren't suffering!!!

Lexx, I'll do a precise FR test as you told me to before; Max planes, and time acceleration to 8x

Question:
What's the best driver cleaner to get all the Nvidia stuff off here?

I can't wait! The screenies are gonna be AWESOME!

Tsisqua

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tsisqua
04-05-2004, 12:15 PM
Well, it just came to my door about an hour ago. Downloaded the drivers, Cat 4.3. I installed everything and started playing tracks.

The most awesome thing is I have FSAA and Anisotropic filtering W I D E open, and the FR's aren't suffering!!!

Lexx, I'll do a precise FR test as you told me to before; Max planes, and time acceleration to 8x

Question:
What's the best driver cleaner to get all the Nvidia stuff off here?

I can't wait! The screenies are gonna be AWESOME!

Tsisqua

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Erbriac
04-05-2004, 12:21 PM
The best driver cleaner is....Driver Cleaner from DriverHeaven (http://www.driverheaven.net/cleaner/) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Nikodemus-LH
04-05-2004, 12:26 PM
There is no going back after that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif just use OpenGL

That card should run 4x FSAA, & 4x AF without any effect on FPS
Enjoy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

jensenpark
04-05-2004, 12:35 PM
would that be the same for the 9600 (run it on GL?)

Thanks,

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ronsterb26
04-05-2004, 01:02 PM
yeah, its amazing isn't it!
I just a new Dell (2.8 Ghz) with that card
and 1 GB RAM. I easily get 50+ fps almost all of the time, sometimes 70-80 fps. Most of my
settings are on high-perfect. I'm seeing stuff I never saw before on my GeForce. Not even sure
was driver's I have, just what came preloaded.
I check and post back if I remember.

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ryan2107
04-05-2004, 01:08 PM
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tsisqua
04-05-2004, 01:10 PM
Ok, so now I have a question . . . again.

I like to use custom color settings, the default being way green heavy for my eyes. I can run the game in windowed mode, and the color settings show. In full screen, the color goes back to the default. What can I do about this? Anyone?

thanks
Tsisqua

lil_labbit
04-05-2004, 01:49 PM
Use manual ?
http://www.ati.com/support/manualpdf/RADEON9800.pdf

It mentions ATI Color Tab for desktop and fullscreen 3D.

Normaly you can just rightclick the desktop then select Properties / Settings / Advanced
It should be there somewhere http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Check if you can see all shades of grey below
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If not up your contrast and do a calibration of your monitor at :
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Bearcat99
04-05-2004, 01:56 PM
I upgraded from a 9500Pro and I saw a 10%difference in frames but the big jump for me was in the overall quality of the image.

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tsisqua
04-05-2004, 02:02 PM
Thanks, Lil_Labbit.

I already dl'd the pdf. I am finding that simply minimizing the game with the window key, then maxing it again fixes it.

Bearcat, definitely! The difference is striking!

Ronsterb, thanks for checking driver version.


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DHFS_dagger
04-05-2004, 02:18 PM
so much envy here http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif still using my 9500pro, not too bad but i want a 9800 for that image quality.

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Fehler
04-05-2004, 02:19 PM
tsisqua,

I am interested on heating. I just ordered that card as well, yesterday, from newegg.com.

The reason I took so long to order it was the reviews of heating, etc. Do you think the stock fan and heatsink will hold up, or do you think I will need a better cooler.

I dont plan on overclocking (Yet) until future games need it.

Gimme your input. I am upgrading from a FX5200 crap card. I hope I can get over 17 FPS like I currently get with excellent settings.

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04-05-2004, 02:28 PM
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04-05-2004, 02:44 PM
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Good news tsisq! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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reload2000
04-05-2004, 02:57 PM
I would put in the Cat 4.2's instead. They run this game really well. And yeah, when i put my 9800XT in it was amazing coming from an Nvidia family of cards. I really noticed a difference big time.

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arcadeace
04-05-2004, 03:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
tsisqua,

I am interested on heating. I just ordered that card as well, yesterday, from newegg.com.

The reason I took so long to order it was the reviews of heating, etc. Do you think the stock fan and heatsink will hold up, or do you think I will need a better cooler.

I dont plan on overclocking (Yet) until future games need it.

Gimme your input. I am upgrading from a FX5200 crap card. I hope I can get over 17 FPS like I currently get with excellent settings.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My Sapphire 9800Pro had no problems with stock heating. I've since switched to better components because I constantly overclock.

Hunter82
04-05-2004, 03:10 PM
ahhhh another convert http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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steve_v
04-05-2004, 04:14 PM
Very happy for you. Know the feeling. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Dunkelgrun
04-05-2004, 04:15 PM
Aaaargh. I'm still using a GeForce3 64Mb. I'm green with envy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I keep thinking that I'll wait until BoB before upgrading but reading posts like this makes sooooo hard.
Enjoy it, Tsisqua.
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tsisqua
04-05-2004, 05:03 PM
Sorry for all the envy that I've created LOL. I never thought that there would be this dramatic of an increase in image quality, and even after hearing what everyone said, I was still a bit skeptical. Well, ok. I am a true believer.

There is also alot more tweaking options than with my Nvidia Ti4200. The down side is that it is going to take me a while to figure a few things out. (I know, I know, you do not feel sorry for me.)

I am still having the color issue with at least one other game, GTA/VC. I am supposed to assign a hotkey to apply the color profile that I created, but it won't apply it to the game. Vice City is my favorite departure from the realism that FB offers, and its great to have something to be a diversion. Anyway, with the desktop settings, I can adjust individual colors. The radio button that lets me adjust colors for a full screen 3d environment won't allow me to do that. The Nvidia card applied my color settings immediately . . . nope, I'm not going back . . . no way. LOL

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huggy87
04-05-2004, 05:48 PM
I don't know about heating, but powersupply can be an issue. I wanted to buy a 9800 pro, but my dell had only a 250watt power supply, not the 300W required. I bought a 9600XT instead since it didn't list a power requirement.

RobertNighthawk
04-05-2004, 06:41 PM
My fellow bird:

Congrats! It smokes with the Athlon 64 I know. I am glad for you.

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gifI have Athlon64 3400+ and I would use the 4.3 drivers as they are smoother and prettier. After all, you have some fps latitude(for playability)until the next set of Cats come out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

With many planes in air in Excellent I am getting 50-60 fps and these drivers run smother so even low frame rates in Perfect still are good to these old eyes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

tsisqua
04-05-2004, 07:40 PM
Robert, did you know about this?

http://www.yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/Cherokee/RedbirdSmithStory.htm

OT, I know, but the word "Nighthawk" in your nick has me curious. And TY for the words on the video card.

Tsisqua

edit: Ok, the color issue has been solved by using the Cat 4.2 drivers. My games are all loading with the color settings that I profiled. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[This message was edited by tsisqua on Mon April 05 2004 at 07:22 PM.]

LEXX_Luthor
04-05-2004, 08:26 PM
Thanks tsisqua. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If you like I can make a simple test mission where 100+ AI planes, all of different type, and one Flyable (FMB'ers Choice) fly toward each other from far away. All fly in Peace, then CPU should die as they enter combat.

For comparison...

I got ~100 AI planes plus me but nothing in combat. Noticed very little fps hit until I hit 2X time speed then crunch. Higher than that was impossible.


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jung0l
04-05-2004, 08:54 PM
Hmm, I was debating whether upgrading to a lesser, cheaper interim would be more productive for me, but I think you just changed my mind, seeing how they are now right above $200. Looking forward to it.

thebub
04-05-2004, 09:15 PM
I personally use powerstrip for overclocking and changing color settings, you can get it at http://www.entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RobertNighthawk
04-05-2004, 09:38 PM
Tsisqua, check your private topics. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jung0l:
Hmm, I was debating whether upgrading to a lesser, cheaper interim would be more productive for me, but I think you just changed my mind, seeing how they are now right above $200. Looking forward to it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't help but ask Jung01, "what is your configu, uh, your Gestalt?" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[This message was edited by RobertNighthawk on Mon April 05 2004 at 10:19 PM.]

T_O_A_D
04-05-2004, 10:40 PM
ok so who has the best deal on it? You guys are making my ti4600 sound like its a has been. I knew that already, but wasn't going to tell her LOL

I like making screenies and play around with adobe and PSP and all the ATI guys stuff looks so much better to me. And well its starting to bother me quite a bit. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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RobertNighthawk
04-05-2004, 11:15 PM
We still love you Toad, even if you have a funny colored screen. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Yeah, these guys are whipping me into an upgrade Jones, too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

lil_labbit
04-05-2004, 11:36 PM
Hey Toad,

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Is that green thing the whattayacallit nVidea ?

me - I got a nvidea gef 2 ti 32MByte (thats a LOT of bits!) .... and I didn't check....

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Spyhunter832
04-06-2004, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by T O A D
posted 05-04-04 21:40
ok so who has the best deal on it? You guys are making my ti4600 sound like its a has been. I knew that already, but wasn't going to tell her LOL

I like making screenies and play around with adobe and PSP and all the ATI guys stuff looks so much better to me. And well its starting to bother me quite a bit.

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T_O_A_D
04-06-2004, 01:44 AM
Ok so when looking at one of these does it pay to get the 256 over the 128?

Oh did you shop there today they must have a typo they have a 128 one for $25.99 LOL

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Aaron_GT
04-06-2004, 03:46 AM
I bought what I thought was going to be
a 9500 Pro all in wonder but turned out to
be a 9800 SE all in wonder that had all
the 9800 Pro hardware on the card, and was
softmoddable. (Doing the softmod using Riva
Tuner gives me an extra 20% in the Aquamark3
benchmark on the GFX part).

However, my Aquamark3 marks are still lower
than I would have hoped. They are twice what
the average GeForce3 would have given, but
still a lot less than what some are getting.
But they are the same GFX marks for someone
who is getting the same CPU marks as me.

At 1024x768x32 in BlackDeath.ntrk I get
the same FPS as I did with the GeForce3,
but in a quick mission with just one plane,
it runs pretty much all the way to the
refresh rate virtually whatever resolution
or quality I put it on as long as I don't
go up to perfect. So it seems I need a new
CPU now to replace my AMD XP 2000 to get
the best out of the graphics card!

I'm wondering if it is still trying to run
the s-video out on the all-in-wonder even
though that bit should be turned off. Hard
to know for sure. Plus I have yet to get
the damn TV tuner to work - and the logic
of getting an all-in-wonder was to replace
my old graphics card AND TV tuner!

Oh well...

Fehler
04-06-2004, 04:51 AM
TOAD,

I ordered mine from Newegg.com. There is one simple reason for this, their RMA.

A lot of other places have alright RMA, but Newegg is head and shoulders above the rest. I have bought a lot of hardware from several different places. Recently I got 3 A7V8X-X boards and AMD 2600 XP CPU's to build 3 machines, one for my son, and two for friends.

One board came bad, even though I had it tested (Extra $9.00.Board). After messing around with swapping RAM and CPU's I discovered that it was in fact the board. OK, I sent the board in, but since I bought it as a combo, they sent it back and said they needed the CPU. I sent the board and CPU and marked the corner of the board with a small black dot from a sharpie. (I was thinking I was getting the run-around) They sent it back as "Fixed." Put it in, and still would not post. (I was right, I got my same board back, and I doubt they even opened the box) I finally got through to a real person and chewed them a new one, if you know what I mean) Well, to make this long story short, I finally had to short out the board completely and fry the dang CPU for them to take the thing back and replace it!

Now, let's look at a Newegg experience. I bought a GeForce Ti-4600. I put it in my computer and it ran fine for a day. My stinking power supply popped and blew the video card (Weird stuff). I RMA'ed the card and even though it was not their fault, they sent me a new one that is still running in my son's computer now.

Now you know why I shop at Newegg. They may be a couple dollars higher, but sometimes you get what you pay for.

With the first example, the shipping for a three time return cost me more than the stinking board! And clearly, I didnt get the "Pre-testing" that I paid for...

Newegg also sells stuff in different configurations. You can buy bulk, OEM, and retail parts. You always know what you are getting with them, and they have a very quick RMA.

So, unless you want someone to "Set you up the bomb," I recommend Newegg.com

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pacettid
04-06-2004, 05:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by reload2000:
I would put in the Cat 4.2's instead. They run this game really well. And yeah, when i put my 9800XT in it was amazing coming from an Nvidia family of cards. I really noticed a difference big time.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree 100%...I was a harcore Nvidia fan for years, until I bought a 9800XT and a new P4/875 MB; I am just amazed at the quality. I also agree that IL2FB runs much faster, with no loss of quality, on the Catalyst 4.2 drivers. When I went from 4.3 to 4.2 I obtained a 30% increase in fps.

All the best, Don

Aaron_GT
04-06-2004, 05:47 AM
Any issues with the 4.2 drivers? If not it
looks like I need to downgrade from the 4.3
ones. Is it best to do a full uninstall
(e.g. DriverCleaner) first before applying
4.2 drivers?

Thanks

T_O_A_D
04-06-2004, 05:50 AM
Thanks Fehler

Yep I have use Newegg many times I have also used Monarch they have a great RMA group aswell. I marked my mobo as you did too wrote TOAD on it in tiny letters. I got a new one http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I always shop arround I have a couple other favorites aswell. But thought one of ya may of been on a hot one at the moment.

Still does anyone know the answer, if it pays to get it in the 256 meg memory over the 128??

I know some of the Nvidia stuff actually is faster at the 128 level than it is with the 256.

I take it you guys are getting the Radion ones aswell. I see Asus makes it but dam its too much even still.

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tsisqua
04-06-2004, 06:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Aaron_GT:
Any issues with the 4.2 drivers? If not it
looks like I need to downgrade from the 4.3
ones. Is it best to do a full uninstall
(e.g. DriverCleaner) first before applying
4.2 drivers?

Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I started with the new drivers, 4.3. Had the prblem that I discussed earlier. Used Driver cleaner to get rid of any leftover Nvidia stuff. I switched to the Omega driver that was based on the 4.3 , hoping that I would get the fix that way. Well, the Omega drivers didn't work for me as well as the stock driver download. (yes, I followed Omegadrive's instructions to the "t", including uninstalling the old ATI control panel)


I then decided to regress to the 4.2, and I must say that quality of image, as well as my FR's seem way better with the older driver. My 3D apps are loading with the color profiles that I create using the control panel . . . with no problem.

Aaron, I've heard that the 9800 Pro SE is a bit slower than the regular 9800 Pro.

Lexx, if you send me a pt, I'll give you an address to send that mission to. I'm ready to give this system a real test of it's metal now.

T O A D, From what I have been told here, the 256 meg version of this card isn't that much better. Most games and hardware don't support the improvements that it offers . . yet. The fact that this card does exist (with 256 memory) tells me that they are not expecting everyone to buy a new MoBo right away for pci express. They will milk the technology for all the $$$$ they can get, and that 256 card may be just the thing to have this time next year.

Cheers to all!
Tsisqua

[This message was edited by tsisqua on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:41 AM.]

[This message was edited by tsisqua on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:52 AM.]

[This message was edited by tsisqua on Tue April 06 2004 at 05:54 AM.]

Aaron_GT
04-06-2004, 11:38 AM
"Aaron, I've heard that the 9800 Pro SE is a bit slower than the regular 9800 Pro"

From what I've read it seems to be that the
9800 SEs that will softmod to 9800 specs
are basically slower only in that they
won't overclock. Since they are essentially
failed 9800 Pros that makes sense. Looking
at Aquamark3, then for those running a 9800
Pro at stock (matching with 9800 SE) clock
speeds, the GFX speed marks they are getting
are the same as mine with the same driver
versions. So I think I am getting what
is expected on that count. I am just not sure
why my CPU gets such lousy scores for an AMD
XP 2000 (page 17 of 18 of the 9800 tests on
the Aquamark3 site!).

It's not worth changing it for a 9500 Pro
(what I originally ordered!) as the 9500 Pro
and 9800 SE have pretty much identical benchmark
results, so I doubt I'd see much difference.

But thanks very much for the pointer on the
driver - I'll try that tonight, and then unlock
the pipelines again (gives me a 20% boost).

johann63
04-06-2004, 11:56 AM
show me some unsampled screenies, I currently have the GF4 Ti4200 and it can get pretty bad sometimes. Gimme a good excuse to piss of the wife again and buy this card so show screenies please.

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michapma
04-06-2004, 12:24 PM
Hi all,

Just a couple of quick notes. The 9800 Pro SE only has 4 pixel pipelines (like the 9600) instead of the 8 pipelines (like the 9500 Pro and other 9800 cards). That's an important reason why they are well behind the other 9800's.


The 256MB only starts to get handy for very high resolutions with full AA and AF. For future games it might also come in handy. You can read more about it in this article (http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030604/index.html).

C!

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VonLuger
04-06-2004, 12:28 PM
Glad you have money to burn!!! With the NEXT generation of chip set coming out in 2 months by both Nvidia and ATI it will be time to upgrade again---

VonLuger
04-06-2004, 12:29 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by VonLuger:
Glad you have money to burn!!! With the NEXT generation of chip set coming out in 2 months by both Nvidia and ATI it will be time to upgrade again---I have a ati 9700 pro and with my 3.06pent and 1 gig of rambus ram Im able to play in perfect...Though Im waiting for this next chip set It is supposed to be a quantum leap like the 9500/9800 series was.....start saving your money now!!!

ddsflyer
04-06-2004, 12:45 PM
Envy here too. I'm building a new machine and have everything gathered and assembled but the CPU and Videocard. I'm waiting to see what prices doo in the next month or two. I would like to use an Extreme Edition P4 but I don't know whether it will be worth the extra money over a Northwood or Prescott P4 3.4GHz. Also both Nvidia and ATI are coming out at the end of this month with new VPUs. Should I get one of these or see if the current Radeon 9800XT cones down in price? I run a 22" monitor at 1600x1200 @ 85Hz. What to do, what to do? Anyone have any suggestions?

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michapma
04-06-2004, 01:01 PM
Never be the first to purchase the "A" models... well, I guess somebody has to do it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Xnomad
04-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Damn this forum!

This thread just pushed me over the edge and I just went and bought a new processor. My Motherboard was ahead of it's time when I bought it with the rest of my stuff so I ended up with a Athlon XP 2100+ my motherboard has a KT400 chipset although 333MhZ is the limit for processor FSB.

The processor I have eventually became my bottle neck as I've got 1 GB of 333MhZ DDR with a puny 166 Front Side Bus on the processor. Plus my Radeon 9500 pro is the same chipset as the 9700 with just a lower clock speed or less pipes, (can't remember) so I know I can get more fps out of this rig. It was always my intention to upgrade the CPU before stepping up into the 64 bit market sometime next year.

I updated my BIOS month's ago so it already can take the Barton core Athlons and Gigabyte say my MOBO supports the processor however, almost everytime I install new hardware it never works straight away so I'm sure I'm going to have some teething trouble http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif Fan and heat sink are included so I can't go wrong there. No doubt I'll be back on this forum later this week or next week saying I had to RMA that faulty processor http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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[This message was edited by Xnomad on Tue April 06 2004 at 01:14 PM.]

RobertNighthawk
04-06-2004, 01:29 PM
VonLuger, do you wanna buy some of my old 64 sticks of pc800 cheap? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Man, I am hip the supply and demand thing of which you speak, but you already have a hot card and cpu..http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif. And btw, I am $$aving mine, http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif but I think they are really enjoying getting some of the "goods" a little more affordable today. Smile with them, man, you remember when you first got that hot CPU and card.



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[This message was edited by RobertNighthawk on Tue April 06 2004 at 12:38 PM.]

Merkava_Mk4
04-06-2004, 01:34 PM
ATI Radeon 9800SE w/256-bit memory from newegg: 160$
Newest Omega drivers: 0$
Overclocking to 9800 pro: 0$
Softmodding to 8 pipelines: 0$
Knowing you got a 9800 pro for 160 bux: PriceLess

RobertNighthawk
04-06-2004, 01:41 PM
Thank God there is Community Support for Upgrade Jones Sufferers. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifLike me.