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HvyPetals
09-10-2004, 09:34 PM
Hi guys, first lemme say that i love this game.

But even the old Aces of the Pacific had AI planes that went into a flat spin.

I cant say enough good things about IL2 but I just dont think its fair that im fighting blacking out and spinning and the AI pilots are,.. well... flying like UAV's.

If AOP could program AI spins why cant IL2?

Like I said, i love the game but I would like to see that happen to someone else besides myself.

HvyPetals
09-10-2004, 09:34 PM
Hi guys, first lemme say that i love this game.

But even the old Aces of the Pacific had AI planes that went into a flat spin.

I cant say enough good things about IL2 but I just dont think its fair that im fighting blacking out and spinning and the AI pilots are,.. well... flying like UAV's.

If AOP could program AI spins why cant IL2?

Like I said, i love the game but I would like to see that happen to someone else besides myself.

Lateralus_14
09-10-2004, 09:57 PM
The AI flight models are simplified. Creating an accurate flight model for every AI aircraft, and working out the thousands of mathematical calculations per second required for each airplane to behave correctly, would be a huge burden on the CPU. Probably more than any current-generation computer could handle.

So, they're simple in order to allow dozens of AI aircraft in the sky with good framerates. Can't have it both ways http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VW-IceFire
09-10-2004, 10:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HvyPetals:
Hi guys, first lemme say that i love this game.

But even the old Aces of the Pacific had AI planes that went into a flat spin.

I cant say enough good things about IL2 but I just dont think its fair that im fighting blacking out and spinning and the AI pilots are,.. well... flying like UAV's.

If AOP could program AI spins why cant IL2?

Like I said, i love the game but I would like to see that happen to someone else besides myself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ummm...never ever ever in the billions of hours that I played Aces of the Pacific or Aces Over Europe did I ever see a AI plane do a flat spin or even stall...they were pretty perfect...they had 3 times as much ammo as necessary, they would almost never retreat from battle, etc.

FB's AI does on occasion spin, more frequently they stall out...but indeed they do not black out. Thats for certain.

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HvyPetals
09-10-2004, 10:13 PM
Thanks guys.

But they deffinately did stall in AOP i dont think so in AOE. I remember following spinning planes down.

No biggie, but thanks anyways.

todd92371
09-11-2004, 06:54 AM
So the ai doesn't black out at all. So that would explain impossibel pursuit maneauvers that they perform?

Hmmmm

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AlexDavies
09-11-2004, 07:15 AM
i was chasing a veteran in a he-111 and whenn he tried to escape, he stalled and crashed. the same thing has happened with a me-323 and a TB-3 as well

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HvyPetals
09-11-2004, 07:34 AM
AlexD, was this on the deck? Im talking about up top?

Man, AOP, I was having flashbacks last night. Remember that cool expansion pack they came out with? The hollow tin sound as your bullets hit enemy planes. haha, what memories.

trumper
09-11-2004, 12:44 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifIf you are dogfighting low and slow i've seen the AI pile in ,especially if they are in a plane that really is'nt supposed to do that or you pull a violent manouvre too low for them to recover.