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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-27-2003, 04:32 AM
Are we going to get the Tiny Tim's too? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/G_PAGE_258_FIGURE_11C2.jpg

It would be cool to blast ships out of the water with them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-27-2003, 04:32 AM
Are we going to get the Tiny Tim's too? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/G_PAGE_258_FIGURE_11C2.jpg

It would be cool to blast ships out of the water with them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Fennec_P
12-27-2003, 06:11 AM
Wow. Size does matter.

Do you know what airplane(s) could carry it?

FW190fan
12-27-2003, 08:26 AM
What we really need is Panzerblitz rockets for the A-9 and F-8.


http://www.luftwaffepics.com/LCBW4/FW190-G2-33s_small.jpg

SkyChimp
12-27-2003, 09:20 AM
Are we getting HVARs?

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-27-2003, 11:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fennec_P:
Wow. Size does matter.

Do you know what airplane(s) could carry it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard that it was essentially a rocket powered 500lb bomb. Quite a few planes could carry these. I have a photograph of a corsair with two of those plus 8 HVAR's. The Douglas A1 skyraider could carry them. I've read of the A/B26 and B25 with such a load-out.

Do a google search for "11.75 inch Tiny tim"

The pic is from thise site: http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/USNAVY/CHAPTER-11-C.html

And skychimp, IF and only IF we are going to get HVAR's http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Korolov
12-27-2003, 12:07 PM
The P-38L in the addon is supposed to come with HVARs.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg

Copperhead310th
12-27-2003, 12:40 PM
yeah but whatabout the P-47/51 that could & did carry them as well? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
1 can only hope.

http://imageshack.us/files/380th%20siggy.jpg

Platypus_1.JaVA
12-27-2003, 12:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
yeah but whatabout the P-47/51 that could & did carry them as well? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif
1 can only hope.

http://imageshack.us/files/380th%20siggy.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It looks like a small step to add them to the current range of aircraft that carried them historically.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
12-27-2003, 09:57 PM
I'd love to see the HVARS in the game. those blasted rocket tubes on the p-47 have caused me NOT take them as a loadout any longer due to the aero drag they cause.

We can only hope that if they are listed as a loadout option for the P-38, that they will be included in the others as well.



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Juego
12-27-2003, 10:18 PM
Sorry for this qeustion http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

WHAT A HECK IS HVARS??


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Udidtoo
12-27-2003, 11:28 PM
HVAR = High-Velocity Aircraft Rocket


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Korolov
12-28-2003, 01:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
yeah but whatabout the P-47/51 that could & did carry them as well?
1 can only hope.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the standard excuse seems to be that the P-47D didn't carry HVARs till the D-30 model. We might see HVARs for the flyable P-51D-20NA in the patch though, who knows.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg

Platypus_1.JaVA
12-28-2003, 03:54 AM
HVAR's are unguided rockets, used on ground targets. Much in the same way as the Il-2 sturmovik uses (b)rs-82 and -132 rockets.

They have a diameter of 5inch / 127mm and are 1,83 m long. They are quite large and should pack some serious punch. They where used on a wide variety of american aircraft. Including P-51, P-47, P-38 and many others. Here is a pic of them.

http://www.eugeneleeslover.com/G_PAGE_259_FIGURE_11C3.jpg

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-28-2003, 04:02 AM
BTW, the reason I came across these pics is that I am doing research for my next plastic model. It is going to be a 1:32 F4U-1D corsair. My reference says that it was the first purpose build fighter-bomber variant of the Corsair. I saw a vague pic of an F4U-1D with Tiny Tim's and HVAR's.

I have to scratchbuild both rockets but, that won't be a problem.

My question, does anyone have a better pic from a Corsair (1D) that shows approximatly the same loadout? I am particulary intrested in what markings and what numbers there are on the corsair as I want to recreate something from real-life and not just something that looks cool.

Any help would be appriciated http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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clint-ruin
12-28-2003, 04:20 AM
As far as I've read, weren't HVARs only an option for the P-51 in Korea? The same blok we have in FB can carry them - there's a restored P51D20 in the Australian War Memorial sporting them - but it's a Korean War era restoration.

Some of those loadouts for the P-38 [+4x.50 +HVARs] look damned nice though :&gt;

http://home.iprimus.com.au/djgwen/fb/leninkoba.jpg

Cajun76
12-28-2003, 06:01 AM
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p47.htm

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p47-8.jpg

This pic, from this link shows HVARS being fired, I believe. If you look at the armaments of the T-Bolt, it lists a 10 rocket loadout, which are 5 HVARS under each wing.

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-28-2003, 10:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by clint-ruin:
As far as I've read, weren't HVARs only an option for the P-51 in Korea? The same blok we have in FB can carry them - there's a restored P51D20 in the Australian War Memorial sporting them - but it's a Korean War era restoration.

Some of those loadouts for the P-38 [+4x.50 +HVARs] look damned nice though :&gt;

http://home.iprimus.com.au/djgwen/fb/leninkoba.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm pretty sure that the P-38 could carry 10 HVAR's. Gibbage should know it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Juego
12-28-2003, 10:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Udidtoo:
HVAR = High-Velocity Aircraft Rocket


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I always have just enough fuel to arrive at the scene of my crash.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Korolov
12-28-2003, 01:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by clint-ruin:
Some of those loadouts for the P-38 [+4x.50 +HVARs] look damned nice though :&gt;
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The later P-38Js and Ls sported the so-called "christmas tree" rocket rack setup for the HVARs. The M model (although this never went into action) could also carry them.

http://p-38online.com/p38m4.JPG

(Take careful note of the left wing... the small rack below it is the HVAR rack.)

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg