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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 12:47 AM
How many P-80s are flying? I was driving west of Milwaukee today and swear I saw a P80 flying. It had the straight wings and wingtip tanks. The silouette looked a lot like the P-80, and it was painted up in a olive drabish scheme. Anyone know what I saw, if it was a P-80 or is there anything similar out there?

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 12:47 AM
How many P-80s are flying? I was driving west of Milwaukee today and swear I saw a P80 flying. It had the straight wings and wingtip tanks. The silouette looked a lot like the P-80, and it was painted up in a olive drabish scheme. Anyone know what I saw, if it was a P-80 or is there anything similar out there?

"Ich bin ein Wuergerwhiner"

"The future battle on the ground will be preceded by battle in the air. This will determine which of the contestants has to suffer operational and tactical disadvantages and be forced throughout the battle into adoption compromise solutions." --Erwin Rommel

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:03 AM
To my knowledge, no F-80 is flyable worldwide, though some are under restoration.

You looked in fact simply at a T-33.

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:09 AM
I dont kow of any F-80's, but ya. There are MANY MANY T-33's. T-33 is an F-80 two seater. They were used up till the 1980's. Not bad for a 1944 design. How many 1944 aircraft were used 40 years after its conception?

Gib

CHDT wrote:
- To my knowledge, no F-80 is flyable worldwide,
- though some are under restoration.
-
- You looked in fact simply at a T-33.
-
- Cheers,
-
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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:21 AM
"They were used up till the 1980's"

Canadian built T-33's are still operational!

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:26 AM
Wow. WOW! Thanks for the info. I heard the US stopped using them in the 70's and other nations stopped late in the 80's. I have spoken to a few Air Force captins who tained on them and they loved the T-33's. Good designs never die hay?

Gib

CHDT wrote:
- "They were used up till the 1980's"
-
- Canadian built T-33's are still operational!
-
- Cheers,
-
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ZG77_Nagual
10-19-2003, 01:27 AM
I know they look different - but they do put tip tanks on these little darlins - and theres plenty of em.

http://www.af.mil/media/factsheet/t_37a.jpg


http://pws.chartermi.net/~cmorey/pics/whiner.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 02:25 AM
nope, didnt have the big bulgy cockpit like that. Does anyone have a pic of one of those T33s?

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 03:37 AM
http://www.warbirdalley.com/images/t33ramp.jpg


http://www.quadcityairshow.com/static_displays/t-33.jpg


http://www.aviation-central.com/1946-1970/images/usn-support/afped-pr.jpg


http://www.jethangar.com/EDF%20Plans/T-33.jpg


http://www.combataircraft.com/aircraft/tt33_p_05_l.jpg


The Canadian painted ones are cool!

Gib

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 03:59 AM
We rock! Go Canada! Our F-18's may not be properly upto date but we can sure paint em nicely when needed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 04:09 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:How many 1944 aircraft were used 40 years after its conception?

C-47s/DC-3s were designed in 1939(?) and are still in use by minor airlines throughout the world. B-52s were designed in the 50s and aren't scheduled for retirement until 2020(I think). That's 60 or 70 years in service!

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 04:32 AM
Rook this picture at Oshkosh this year

http://www.uploadit.org/files/191003-Picture%20086.jpg




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Erich 'Bubi' Hartmann "Karaya One"

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 05:13 AM
1bhskier37, I'm also from Wisconsin. I was just going to make the same post. I happened to be going to the Waukesha Exp Center today which borders the airfield and happen to see this plane sitting outside of it's hanger. I thought it was a P-80 too, but from what everybody else is saying it must be a T-33. But the best part was when I was leaving the Expo Center and it flew directly over my head coming in for a landing. It was beautiful.

As a side note, I live in East Troy Wisconsin where we have a small airfield on the outskirts of town. On occassion, perhaps once a year I get to see a P-51 flying out of the airfield, and usually no more than a hundred feet over my house. I believe some doctor owns it. However on one other occasion he had a friend with him. The sight of two P-51's flying a few hundred feet over your head is something to behold. The roar of their engines is amazing and totally unique from any other civilian aircraft.

Sorry for rambling on. Just got a little excited thinking about these planes.

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 05:59 AM
Thats cool, I was on Bluemound going towards Brookfield and it flew overhead pretty low/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Ive also seen other warbirds around waukesha, my girlfriend lives there and sees them often, but I've only seen them at a distance and never figured out what they were.

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"The future battle on the ground will be preceded by battle in the air. This will determine which of the contestants has to suffer operational and tactical disadvantages and be forced throughout the battle into adoption compromise solutions." --Erwin Rommel

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 07:45 AM
-- We rock! Go Canada! Our F-18's...

I tire of pop media F~18s F~16s etc, and Canadians ROCK but it cos CF~105 Arrow (and also cos Salter Street Film's space science fiction).


I didn't know this thing was so HUGE. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

http://www.avroarrow.org/images/pg34.jpg


---> http://www.avroarrow.org/factualarrow.asp


Put that and flyable F~106 and Su~7 (sweet to fly) in LOMAC and I would buy it, otherwise...





Message Edited on 10/19/0306:47AM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 05:33 PM
Hey iam from wisconsin too, south milwaukee... i just joined JG26 last week too... wassssssup...

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 06:59 PM
S! red, nice meeting ya. I haven't been flying with the guys in a while, got some computer issues, but hope to fly with ya when I get them sorted out.

"Ich bin ein Wuergerwhiner"

"The future battle on the ground will be preceded by battle in the air. This will determine which of the contestants has to suffer operational and tactical disadvantages and be forced throughout the battle into adoption compromise solutions." --Erwin Rommel

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 07:10 PM
Luthor, a color photo of the one you posted and some others.

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/6014/arrow2.gif


http://www.geocities.com/heartland/6014/arrow5.gif

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/6014/unveal.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/6014/arrow.gif

http://www.geocities.com/heartland/6014/arrow6.gif

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Message Edited on 10/19/0302:23PM by MiloMorai

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 07:22 PM
Another RCAF CT-133 taken at Baden. The 10,000 is for the number of flight hours.

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/t33cafkiwi1.jpg


A 414 CT-133

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/t33caf3.jpg


A 417 CT-133

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/t-bird_et33/wallpaper/T-Bird7.jpg


And a CF-5

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/cf116-5.jpg


Some CF-101s

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/voodoos2.jpg


Some CF-104s

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/cf104.jpg

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/cf104s.jpg

http://www.airforce.forces.ca/grfx/equip_gallery/historic_gallery/wallpaper/starftr.jpg



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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:34 AM
Just imagine how much more pleasant and fun wars would be if everyone painted their aircraft pretty colors like the ones in the pictures MiloMorai posted/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:53 AM
I doubt any war will ever be pleasant or fun...

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:00 AM
Kampfmeister wrote:
- Just imagine how much more pleasant and fun wars
- would be if everyone painted their aircraft pretty
- colors like the ones in the pictures MiloMorai
- posted

Crimson Skies *yeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrgh*

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 11:16 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
Not bad for a 1944 design. How many 1944 aircraft were used 40 years after its conception?

IIRC C-130 Hercules was designed inte the 40's or 50's and
is still in production, with minor changes. How many planes
do that? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
And the J35 Dragon was designed in the mid.late 50's.
Sweden, Finland and Denamark airforces stopped flying them
a few years ago and Austria will keep theirs for a few more
years. And that's a high-performing fighterplane.
Once again, how many planes do that?
Sorry for my rambling, please scroll to next post.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 11:42 AM
The F-5's one of the most beautiful jets ever built. Wouldn't you agree ? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:23 AM
RAAF_Edin wrote:
- I doubt any war will ever be pleasant or fun...


I fully agree, but I was being sarcastic/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
Lighten up and have a little fun/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 03:43 AM
Is the F-5 the Starfighter? Ya. It looks like the fastest aircraft ever http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif From what I heard, its quite a handfull to keep it in the air. Very unstable.

Gib

Bremspropeller wrote:
- The F-5's one of the most beautiful jets ever built.
- Wouldn't you agree ?

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:12 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Is the F-5 the Starfighter? Ya. It looks like the
- fastest aircraft ever /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif From what I heard, its
- quite a handfull to keep it in the air. Very
- unstable.


The Starfighter would be the Lockheed F-104. Very fast for it's time and it was quite a handful for the pilots that flew it as I understand. The modern German Luftwaffe had a lot of mishaps with it during the sixties. As I also understand, Col. Erich Hartmann didn't approve of it's purchase by the German government. I believe that is one of the reasons he never achieved a higher rank than Col. as opposed to other former WWII fighter jocks like Gunther Rall. The Northrop F-5 I believe was referred to as the Freedom Fighter.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:20 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Is the F-5 the Starfighter? Ya. It looks like the
- fastest aircraft ever /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif From what I heard, its
- quite a handfull to keep it in the air. Very
- unstable.
-
-

No Gib, the F-5 is not the Starfighter.

For one so up on Northrop a/c you should know the F-5 was built by Northrop, Lockheed built the F104 Starfighter. The F-5 was nicked the Freedom Fighter and Tiger.

The F-5 had 2 engines(J-85), while the F-104 had only one engine(J-79).

F-5
http://www.fitertown.com/f5/n3e_clouds_web.jpg


F-104
http://www.photovault.com/Link/Military/AirForce/MYFVolume13/MYFV13P12_14.0359.jpg




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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:22 AM
Ow ya! The F-5. I dont really consider it a fighter. More of a jet trainer. I also think its one of the aircraft the US sells to other country's so we would never have to fight any dangerous aircraft if we went to war. Iran has a few F-5's.

http://cybermodeler.com/aircraft/northrop/f-5ef/f-5f-2.jpg


Gib

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