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patch_adams
05-21-2004, 05:57 PM
I noticed you have it listed in game as a 43 aircraft. This is incorrect. Please remark it as 1944. Thank you.

patch_adams
05-21-2004, 05:57 PM
I noticed you have it listed in game as a 43 aircraft. This is incorrect. Please remark it as 1944. Thank you.

p1ngu666
05-21-2004, 07:04 PM
could be late 43, all the pics in my profile are in 44onwards where it mentions e wing.
but conversions stopped in march44 so i dunno

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brasil66
05-21-2004, 10:11 PM
Patch. Is that the best whine you can come up with? Just shut up and play this great game, you twit.

VW-IceFire
05-21-2004, 10:30 PM
Found a quote at this site: http://www.spitfiresociety.demon.co.uk/flying.htm

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Mk IXe MJ730 (N730MJ)

Delivered to 33 MU in December 1943, MJ730 served with 249 Squadron in the Balkan Air Force, and then later with the Italian and Israeli Air Forces. Found derelict in Israel in 1976, it returned to the air in November 1988. It is currently owned by Jerry Yagen and flies out of Suffolk, Virginia, USA. (12/03)
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So this paticular Spitfire IXe was delivered in December of 1943 which is justification enough to me...

Its a 1943 plane, its not going to kill you if it was introduced in December. Presumably others were delivered earlier since this one was overseas and I'll bet some home squadrons already had some.

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tmv-sig1.jpg
RCAF 412 Falcon Squadron - "Swift to Avenge"

patch_adams
05-21-2004, 10:58 PM
it didnt see combat till '44 sorry.

Korolov
05-21-2004, 10:59 PM
So put it in the '44 planeset or leave it out of the '43 planeset... Problem solved.

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invun
05-22-2004, 03:25 AM
And same problem with P-51B/C http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
They came into service from winter 1943 (some resources say they came to 8th AF on Dec. 1, 1943), so IMHO P-51B/C should be '44 aircrafts. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Kurfurst__
05-22-2004, 04:08 AM
Agreed, it`s a bit of disturbing to see planes that basically see very little (P51B), or no combat (IXe) in 1943, becoming 1943 planes and then fighting early 1943 planes of `43 DF servers. AFAIK the first E wing Spitfire` saw service in about May 1944, and while the 1st Mustang B sortie was flown in December 1943 by a single FG, the others did not receive it until February-March 1944.

Kinda strange to have them as 1943 planes, just because they appeared in the last week of 1943...

http://www.x-plane.org/users/isegrim/fat-furred%20tigerB.jpg

"We've got the finest tanks in the world. We just love to see the German Royal Tiger come up on the field".
- Lt. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Febuary 1945.

"One day a Tiger Royal got within 150 yards of my tanks and knocked me out. Five of our tanks opened up on him at ranges of 200 to 600 yards and got 5 or 6 hits on the front of the Tiger. They all just glanced off and the Tiger backed off and got away. If we had a tank like that Tiger, we would all be home today."
- Sgt. Clyde D. Brunson, US Army, Tank Commander, February 1945

Tetrapharmakoi
05-22-2004, 04:54 AM
you are right

BigPhatBubba
05-22-2004, 05:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brasil66:
Patch. Is that the best whine you can come up with? Just shut up and play this great game, you twit.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man chill out! No need to be rude! Some people like "Realism" in their sims.

Bubba

VW-IceFire
05-22-2004, 09:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by patch_adams:
it didnt see combat till '44 sorry.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Since you seem to know so much more about deployment dates of particular variations of the Spitfire please enlighten us with your information and sources please http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm interested...

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tmv-sig1.jpg
RCAF 412 Falcon Squadron - "Swift to Avenge"

PzKpfw
05-22-2004, 01:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kurfurst__:

Kinda strange to have them as 1943 planes, just because they appeared in the last week of 1943...

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P-51Bs flew 361 effective missions from Dec 1 - 31 1943*. P-51Bs were credited with 103 destroyed LW AC as of Jan 21 1944.

*See: Dean Francis H. America's Hundred-Thousand. p.334

Regards, John Waters

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Notice: Spelling mistakes left in for people who need to correct others to make their life fulfilled.

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The one that gets you is the one that you'll never see.
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"After 44 we called the new models the 'bumps', because every new model had another bump or hump on the fuselage, which naturally was particularly bad for the flight characteristics of the aircraft."

Walter Krupinski: on the Bf 109...
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"The damn Jerries have stuck their heads in the meatgrinder, and I've got hold of the handle."

Lt.Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. December 26, 1944.

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"We've got the finest tanks in the world. We just love to see the German Royal Tiger come up on the field".

Lt.Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Febuary 1945.

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For Americans war is almost all of the time a nuisance, and military skill is a luxury like Mah-Jongg. But when the issue is brought home to them, war becomes as important, for the necessary period, as business or sport. And it is hard to decide which is likely to be the more ominous for the Axis--an American decision that this is sport, or that it is business."
--D. W. Brogan, The American Character

patch_adams
05-24-2004, 12:13 PM
bump