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Hunde_3.JG51
03-26-2004, 11:18 PM
I've used my Saitek Evo for a couple of months now with no problems at all, but when I did a windows update it recommended I download a 200k file that was supposed to auto-calibrate joystick and get rid of initial drift to left. So I installed update and now my joystick drifts badly to the left so in essence it gave me the exact problem it was supposed to fix http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. My plane flies perfectly level until I touch joystick, then it starts to bank left even with torque, wind, flutter turned off. I've tried moving joystick all-around and twisting rudder fully, etc. but nothing helps. I tried removing software completely but update seems to be automatically installed now.

So I e-mailed Saitek and they said there is no way to go back to original driver as the new one/update is signed into windows. They recommended bringing it back to the store for a new one. I did get coverage at Circuit City for 2 years so I may be able to get a new one (I copied e-mail from Saitek), but I really don't think it is the joystck at all, I think it is the update/software and I remember seeing similar problems posted before.

I'll return it tomorrow, or at least try to, but any information about this would be appreciated.

I'm using Windows XP, AMD 2800+, and Asus (Nvidea chipset) MB.

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Hunde_3.JG51
03-26-2004, 11:18 PM
I've used my Saitek Evo for a couple of months now with no problems at all, but when I did a windows update it recommended I download a 200k file that was supposed to auto-calibrate joystick and get rid of initial drift to left. So I installed update and now my joystick drifts badly to the left so in essence it gave me the exact problem it was supposed to fix http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. My plane flies perfectly level until I touch joystick, then it starts to bank left even with torque, wind, flutter turned off. I've tried moving joystick all-around and twisting rudder fully, etc. but nothing helps. I tried removing software completely but update seems to be automatically installed now.

So I e-mailed Saitek and they said there is no way to go back to original driver as the new one/update is signed into windows. They recommended bringing it back to the store for a new one. I did get coverage at Circuit City for 2 years so I may be able to get a new one (I copied e-mail from Saitek), but I really don't think it is the joystck at all, I think it is the update/software and I remember seeing similar problems posted before.

I'll return it tomorrow, or at least try to, but any information about this would be appreciated.

I'm using Windows XP, AMD 2800+, and Asus (Nvidea chipset) MB.

http://www.brooksart.com/Icewarriors.jpg

Formerly Kyrule2
http://www.jg51.com/

resev
03-27-2004, 12:24 AM
Sorry, Kyrule, i can't help you much with that one, even because i have my hands full with my Logitech.


Usualy, Windows updates are installed like any other programs, so its possible that you might have an unistall option for that update on your add/remove screen.
Try that first.

Also, you might have made an auto save on your Windows Restore (if you haven't disabled it).
Check that as well and restore to the point before the update, but use the add/remove option first to see if its listed.

Cheers.

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arcadeace
03-27-2004, 01:13 AM
I have the Evo and almost the same system specs as you've shown. I even purchased mine at Circuit City with the same 2 year guarantee. I downloaded a driver (13 megs) and I have no drift at all. I don't even use what came on the disk. I forget where I downloaded it but it may have been from Guru 3D. A Google search might find it. I've stored it on another drive for any future use and I clicked on its properties, here is some info:

Description: SD Drivers & SST Programming Software for Wi
Copywright: Copyright (c) Saitek 2002
Product Version: 3.2.0.18
Original file name: stub32i.exe
Product name: SD_Win9X_3_2_0_18 (it works on XP as well as 98)

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Hunde_3.JG51
03-27-2004, 02:26 AM
Resev, no luck. I tried looking before but the update was not in add/remove programs list even when checking winxp hotfixes.

How do I go to a restore point? I never saved one but maybe there was an auto-save or something.

Arcadeace, no luck. I think I found the driver you are talking about but as soon as I plug in my evo the old driver is immediately installed. When trying to use driver I could never get past part where it says to plug in device, either nothing would happen or the old/updated driver would be installed. The Saitek tech guy said this new "updated" driver will take precedence over any other driver I try to install as it is "signed" into windows. Seems pretty damn stupid to me.

I guess I will see what tomorrow brings but since the update I definitely have serious drift problem which really pi$$es me off since my evo was fine and the "update" was in my windows update selection under driver updates. Maybe it was/is a bad stick all along and it just happened to work fine with old driver but I doubt it very much.

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Taylortony
03-27-2004, 02:46 AM
ok there are a couple of versions of the idiot guide here so if one does not register with what you have read the next one down also there is info on rolling pc back at the bottom if you are on windows xp try this

go start

open control panel

double click on system

click on hardware tab

double click on device manager

double click on human interface device

see your stick there

double click on it

click on the driver tab

then click on roll back drivers.

that should restore it to the previous driver installed..

if you are running in full xp view the first part should read

click on start

open control panel

click on performance and maintenance

click on system

click on hardware tab

double click on device manager

double click on human interface device

see your stick there

double click on it

click on the driver tab

then click on roll back drivers.

that should restore it to the previous driver installed..

when you are in control panel and peformance and maintenance do you see a bit on the left called see also and system restore, well click on system restore and that is what allows you to roll back yur pc to before you installed the new drivers, just follow the screenies and pick a day that is highlighted prior to you installing the new drivers, that is if you have it turned on, if not try the above...

hope that helps ya
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[This message was edited by Taylortony on Sat March 27 2004 at 02:01 AM.]

Kneenibbler
03-27-2004, 10:10 PM
Make sure you're joystick is plugged in and just run windows update and look for the driver in one of the sections on the left (sorry don't remember what section it was). It will fix the drifting problem as it was pretty common.

Also if you have the latest driver already you need to run through a range of motion with stick after every boot-up as it is auto-calibrated now. Just turn the stick, twist the handel and ramp up the throttle a few times to get windows to remember what the deal is.

Hope it helps.