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Franzen
06-12-2004, 01:31 PM
This was a very nice read. It's a pilot's detailed account of flying "Black 6".

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Fritz Franzen

Franzen
06-12-2004, 01:31 PM
This was a very nice read. It's a pilot's detailed account of flying "Black 6".

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/index1024.htm

Fritz Franzen

Dem4n
06-12-2004, 01:45 PM
Wasn't this posted a while back? Correct me if I'm wrong. Anyway Black 6 got turned upside down by some crack, and thus styles my posts http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Oh, thx for the link though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
06-12-2004, 04:03 PM
didnt this display pilot play with the Prop Pitch & he over cooked the motor requireing a forced landing ?


i was told thats how Black6 G2 Bf-109 was stopped flying ?

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tfu_iain1
06-12-2004, 04:11 PM
as i heard it, the display flight it crashed during was to be black 6's last flight. it was going to be sent to hendon for static display anyway, safe landing or none. so the pilot decided to make the final display a good one and did a full speed run over the crowd. the poor 40's db engine has had a long history of display life troubles, and couldnt take the strain. the pilot came around immediately to land, but as a consenquence he over shot, and hadnt enough power left to come around a second time. so he crash landed it in a field over the other side of the motorway, and it tipped over. he was so keen to avoid any further damage to the plane, he refused to let the fire service cut him out, instead waiting 45 minutes in the cockpit for them to dig him out, with fuel coming out of the plane. the pilot i guess shouldnt have done the full speed run, but who here wouldnt have wanted to make black 6's final flight a good one, true to the spirit of the aircraft (even if the substance on this occasion was found lacking)

Dem4n
06-12-2004, 05:03 PM
tfu_ian u got it. At least thats the way I remember it too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Franzen
06-12-2004, 07:49 PM
I happened to run across this while researching for details for my model. I hadn't seen it before and figured it might have been post previously but didn't want anyone to go without, so I took the chance.
Had I been the pilot I definitely wouldn't have wanted to have the plane cut just to get me out do to the enormous guilt I would have been feeling. Then again I wouldn't have pushed a an almost 60 year old machine to it's limits for anyone. IMHO it should have remained static anyway. To crash something like this 55 years after the war is a real shame. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Fritz Franzen

T_O_A_D
06-12-2004, 11:34 PM
Well Im confused that link is talkinbout one that was recovered from a lake???

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
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Franzen
06-13-2004, 03:31 AM
You are right Toad, I just tried it and it went to the menu. The link I gave is right but I guess it won't take you the rest of the way. Look in the menu on the lefthand side. Click on "articles", then "evaluations", then "Flying Black 6". The link seems to work a little oddly.

Fritz Franzen

WTE_Ibis
06-13-2004, 04:01 AM
Green with jealousy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/cry.gif

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IL2-chuter
06-13-2004, 04:06 AM
As I read it: the pilot thought he smelled something in the cockpit and the ground crew radioed him that they saw smoke. The pilot thought it best to put the plane down NOW regardless of his speed and overshot. Turns out the smell and smoke was just the coolant burping a little. As far as the engine goes, I don't know if there were tuning problems, but Rolls said the engine was a technical jewel when they overhauled it, right smack on the spec's, and it certainly wasn't abused. At least the original prop wasn't damaged.


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Prof.Wizard
06-13-2004, 04:37 AM
Are the manuals in the site the real deal?! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif
If yes, amazing...

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trumper
06-13-2004, 06:36 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I was there for the last flight and it was pilot error, yes white coolant WAS seen coming from the engine but ,oh well here is the link i found http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_avsafety/documents/page/dft_avsafety_501760.hcsp http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

ASM 1
06-13-2004, 08:14 AM
nice read (both) bit sad that it will never fly again...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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tfu_iain1
06-13-2004, 03:32 PM
it was never going to fly again anyway (tho i guess someone might have wanted to buy the engine) and its not too badly damaged. it is or will be displayed at hendon anyway.