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LeadSpitter_
02-08-2004, 06:42 AM
Me262 A-1a/U4 Intercepter
A Rheinmetall BK5 50mm cannon had the nose equipped

http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262a1au4.JPG

Me262 V10 with a Deichselschlepp towed-bomb
http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262v10.JPG

also a twin seater would be nice

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LeadSpitter_
02-08-2004, 06:42 AM
Me262 A-1a/U4 Intercepter
A Rheinmetall BK5 50mm cannon had the nose equipped

http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262a1au4.JPG

Me262 V10 with a Deichselschlepp towed-bomb
http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262v10.JPG

also a twin seater would be nice

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Extreme_One
02-08-2004, 06:49 AM
I can hear it already:-


"how many of those flew on the Eastern front, now what we really need is....!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Nice pics though LeadSpitter_

BTW could you imagine the FB muzzle flash with the gun in the top pic! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Abbuzze
02-08-2004, 07:14 AM
As far as I know... the Version with the 5cm cannon was usesless, it had a real blinding muzzleflash, so compared to the FB MK108 muzzleflash (no LW pilot ever complaind about the flashes)- but in FB it´s monstrous... so the BK5 will give you a withe screen for at least 5 sec http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beside it was useless as a bomberdestroyer...

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p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 08:30 AM
sod the bombers. id use it on fighters http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

One13
02-08-2004, 08:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Me262 A-1a/U4 Intercepter
A Rheinmetall BK5 50mm cannon had the nose equipped
Me262 V10 with a Deichselschlepp towed-bomb
also a twin seater would be nice
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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How about a version that saw some limited use, like thw Me262-1a/U1?
Armament 2xMK103, 2xMK108 & 2xMG151/20.

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ElektroFredrik
02-08-2004, 12:02 PM
Why not a Me-262C-2b with BMW-003R engines
(jets with a built-in rocket booster)
Imagine throttling down to 300 kph to let the
Mustangs catch up, light the rockets and give
them a long nose as you thunder off in the sunset http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif
On was built and at http://www.faqs.org/docs/air/avme262.html
it sais that this plane was "tricky and frightening to fly"
Sounds funhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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warweapon2
02-08-2004, 12:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abbuzze:
As far as I know... the Version with the 5cm cannon was usesless, it had a real blinding muzzleflash, so compared to the FB MK108 muzzleflash (no LW pilot ever complaind about the flashes)- but in FB it´s monstrous... so the BK5 will give you a withe screen for at least 5 sec http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Beside it was useless as a bomberdestroyer...

JG53 PikAs Abbuzze
I./Gruppe

http://www.jg53-pikas.de/

http://mitglied.lycos.de/p123/Ani_pikasbanner_langsam.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought you couldn't see muzzle flashes... It was all a hollywood ordeal...

MiloMorai
02-08-2004, 12:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by One13:

How about a version that saw some limited use, like thw Me262-1a/U1?
Armament 2xMK103, 2xMK108 & 2xMG151/20.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you imagine trying to set the convergence with 3 seperate mv.

Why not the planned the 4 x MK213C 20mm revolver cannon version.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



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LEXX_Luthor
02-08-2004, 12:31 PM
LW night figher pilots *hated* Mk108 cos muzzle flash. This is historically true Full Real hysterical hatred too.

Okay I know when Oleg says we have realistic muzzle flash that's cos he modded them for dark adapted night vision but we get the same flash in day vision too.



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BS87
02-08-2004, 02:47 PM
I rember when Goering(sp?) i think, was captured, he mentiioned about how hitler new nothing about palen, and ruined the Luftwaffe. He then made some snide comment like "You will even find a few jet with that hideous 50mm on them"

LEXX_Luthor
02-08-2004, 02:52 PM
More fun would be the version of Yak~3T (Tankovyi) with 57mm anti~tank gun.

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MrOblongo
02-08-2004, 03:17 PM
Doent matter which version of Me262 we have...is useless against a B17 Formation... even diving at 800km/h over them with full deflection , always end burning http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 06:27 PM
they said the recoil was too much didnt they? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

BlindHuck
02-08-2004, 11:59 PM
I read . . http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . . 50mm took so long to evacuate smoke it was one shot per pass.

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HangerQueen
02-09-2004, 01:54 AM
Come on guys, arn't 4 30 mm cannons enough? Some people are just obssessed.

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T_O_A_D
02-09-2004, 02:01 AM
I like the two seater idea for several of our birds. We could have test flights. and scare the crap out of trainees and then let them have the controls and scare the crap out of us LOL

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TheGozr
02-09-2004, 02:12 AM
Would be cool to fly at two http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Gibbage1
02-09-2004, 02:21 AM
Questions like this are only braught forth by Luftwhiners complaining about anything NOT in service for the Luftwaffa, not the other way around http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif How many people have you heard complain about the Go-229 compaired to the P-80? Need I say more?

Gib

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Extreme_One:
I can hear it already:-


_"how many of those flew on the Eastern front, now what we really need is....!"_ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Nice pics though LeadSpitter_

BTW could you imagine the FB muzzle flash with the gun in the top pic! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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Download the RAF campaign folder http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-9.html.

Download the USAAF campaign folder http://www.netwings.org/library/Forgotten_Battles/Missions/index-9.html. _*NEW* Updated for FB 1.21_

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[This message was edited by Extreme_One on Sun February 08 2004 at 06:18 AM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LeadSpitter_
02-09-2004, 02:36 AM
I agree with you gib, the 109s and 190s are so overmodeled but you dont hear any complaints just about the 190s damage model them wanting it stronger and a complex dm for cockpit damage.

I think its so much easier flying 109s especially the k4 you get an extra 45+ kmph in manual, dont really have to worry about dive speeds much.

vvs aircraft seem to have more stick pressure and you have to keep a close eye on dive speeds even a 2000m dive they accelerate so fast they can breakup

it seems way to easy to fly german planes now, they should put pink training wheels on the g2

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SpinSpinSugar
02-09-2004, 03:44 AM
I can moan about the inclusion of the Go229 if you want?

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SpinSpinSugar
02-09-2004, 03:54 AM
But back to the pictures in the first post, how on earth was that towed bomb aimed? Presumably it's designed to glide a bit in an unguided fashion but must have been pretty innacurate? Or was it designed just to introduce some stand-off distance?

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p1ngu666
02-09-2004, 08:27 AM
proximity perhaps?