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Thunak
04-30-2004, 08:27 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site. This week we present a "pot-pourri" of some of the aircraft you will find in the AEP add-on due out shortly. Just a few images to whet your appetite.



The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php).


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Thunak
04-30-2004, 08:27 AM
This week's development update has been added to the site. This week we present a "pot-pourri" of some of the aircraft you will find in the AEP add-on due out shortly. Just a few images to whet your appetite.



The update is available now by clicking here (http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php).


T

CowboyTodd41
04-30-2004, 08:30 AM
It links to last weeks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/Tgan92/newsig.gif

jeanba2
04-30-2004, 08:47 AM
Wasn't the H75 already available ?
What's new about it ?

GAJIT
04-30-2004, 08:52 AM
Wow. What a boring update. Appart from a new tank! Unless we get a flyable Hawk and I-185. At least we have the Pacific and Battle of Britain to look forward to.

I do still believe that Forgotten Battles is the best in the business.

269GA-Veltro
04-30-2004, 08:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jeanba2:
Wasn't the H75 already available ?
What's new about it ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bump! They will be fliable?

Also Bf 109-G10/AS and Bf 109-G14/AS would be a nice present....too many allied now. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

269GA~Veltro
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www.269ga.it (http://www.269ga.it)

Capt._Tenneal
04-30-2004, 08:54 AM
Is the "AEP add-on" different from the patch ? Nobody is calling it a patch officially, so I'm thinking it's another product we'll have to see on store shelves (?) .

VW-IceFire
04-30-2004, 08:55 AM
Sweet update! I really like the FW190A-6...thats going to be sweet!

Also the Yak-9UT but of course the Spitfire IX has me most excited. And beyond that the British tank is a great thing to have...finally some British ground forces to use!

http://home.cogeco.ca/~cczerneda/sigs/tmv-sig1.jpg
RCAF 412 Falcon Squadron - "Swift to Avenge"

KGr.HH-Sunburst
04-30-2004, 08:58 AM
im gonna be in deep **** in my 109G-14 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

other than that the update looks great
i cannot wait for that A6

thanks.

http://www.freewebs.com/fightingpumas/

Lunix
04-30-2004, 09:04 AM
Awsome great news! Cant wait to try all the new planes. Any word on the dedicated server?

http://members.shaw.ca/corn/il2sig2.jpg

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:04 AM
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:04 AM
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 09:05 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

screw axis..

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



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"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

KGr.HH-Sunburst
04-30-2004, 09:06 AM
vortex you whiner be glad with what you get ITs Free after all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

http://www.freewebs.com/fightingpumas/

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oleg86:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

screw axis..

[QUOTE]

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/351.gif

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

rcorporon
04-30-2004, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sunburst-97th:
vortex you whiner be glad with what you get ITs Free after all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

http://www.freewebs.com/fightingpumas/
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think he was whining, just saying he wants more axis planes.

Ronnie

http://images.snapfish.com/33%3A6436323232%7Ffp46%3Dot%3E232%3C%3D85%3B%3D563 %3DXROQDF%3E2323534%3C378%3A6ot1lsi

KGr.HH-Sunburst
04-30-2004, 09:10 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif so do i

http://www.freewebs.com/fightingpumas/

nixon-fiend.
04-30-2004, 09:11 AM
Wowser! I thought we were getting 2/3 planes in the patch!! there#'s loads of 'em!!!

Hats off to Ubi.

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 09:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by oleg86:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

screw axis..

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http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3

http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv

http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv



http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/wolf4ever/Animation3.gif
"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/351.gif

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I mean, they are bad guys http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif who wants more of them? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/wolf4ever/Animation3.gif
"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:14 AM
well,me for 1 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

HyperLobby name : =97th=Vortex

VVS-Manuc
04-30-2004, 09:19 AM
boring http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

what is the status of bugfixing with this patch? Or will we get only more useless planes with funny FM and DM?

numbers instead of quality http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 09:21 AM
Manuc, click on my signature where it says " plane2 slow, guns 2 weak....."....

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/wolf4ever/Animation3.gif
"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:22 AM
lol,think of the damage model on the Yak-3 now,the 3T is supposed 2 be stronger! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

HyperLobby name : =97th=Vortex

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 09:24 AM
u mean yap3P?

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/wolf4ever/Animation3.gif
"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Vortex_uk
04-30-2004, 09:27 AM
oh yeah,my bad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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http://www.photodump.com/direct/Vortex/NORTHROP20P-6120Black20WIDOW.jpg

"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction. " ~ Gen. MacArthur

HyperLobby name : =97th=Vortex

A.K.Davis
04-30-2004, 09:56 AM
Fw-190A-6 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thanks for listening Oleg. And all the other new variants are awesome also. The Eastern Front is not forgotten. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

--AKD

http://members.optusnet.com.au/tully_78th/legalsig.jpg

ZG77_Nagual
04-30-2004, 09:59 AM
Once again way beyond what was expected!
Instead of all this complaining I'd be up for discussing what's new with some of the new planes.

DuxCorvan
04-30-2004, 10:12 AM
Boring? This has been a nice surprise for me.

I think all those planes will be flyable -including Hawk and Spit IX. And all those variants are great to complete the progressing scope of the air war development. They've discovered they can add more versions with little effort, and give it for free as extra candy, and I think that's really really great.

As a skinner, I'm going to enjoy like a pig in a sh*t pool with all those new variants -which increase exponentially the mission building accuracy.

And I find 190 A-6, Yak 9UT and Yak-7M to be very interesting aircraft...

And test flyers are going to have a big time making comparatives...

I don't understand how can so many people always see a half empty bottle, instead of a half full one.

- Dux Corvan -
http://www.uploadit.org/DuxCorvan/Altamira2.jpg
Ten thousand years of Cantabrian skinning.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-30-2004, 10:14 AM
I'm thankful for anything they want to throw our way. I'm sure it will be up to the usual 1:C quality.

But I must say I AM a bit disappointed to be getting an update instead of getting "IT"

Looks like another weekend of quality time with the Wife and kids...and NO flying. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif



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Capt._Tenneal
04-30-2004, 10:14 AM
No matter how hard he tries Oleg can't really show a screenshot of a bugfix. So what's to put in a dev. update, bugfix-wise ?

crazyivan1970
04-30-2004, 10:22 AM
Oleg86... LMAO

V!
Regards,

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VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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http://www.rmutt.netfirms.com/vfc/home.htm

Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

TheEngine88
04-30-2004, 10:39 AM
I'm not sweating the patch too much. I'll just enjoy flying the "nerer" a/c we've got, and regard the release of the patch as an unexpected bonus.

To me, it seems that some people get an upgrade, AEP, a free add-on, whatever, and almost immedeately begin to obsess on when the next update is coming out. I prefer to enjoy what i have on hand, as opposed to pining for what may or may not lie in the future, at least as far as FB is concerned.

BH-21
04-30-2004, 11:34 AM
Sweet its nice to see all those variants flyable. Can't wait to take a Hawk 75 (P-36) for a spin. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lucius_Esox
04-30-2004, 11:53 AM
Oleg86,
Just looked at that fear British video,,, made me lauf!!

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 12:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucius_Esox:
Oleg86,
Just looked at that fear British video,,, made me lauf!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



http://img23.photobucket.com/albums/v68/wolf4ever/Animation3.gif
"Big Bills suck, small Bills don't"&lt;----WRONG!!!! all Bills suck http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

musickna
04-30-2004, 12:28 PM
Very nice update. Unlike some, I am very glad to see more variants of my favorite Russian aircraft - this update is going in exactly the direction I want it to go. Thank you. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Kwiatos
04-30-2004, 12:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VVS-Manuc:
boring http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

what is the status of bugfixing with this patch? Or will we get only more useless planes with funny FM and DM?

numbers instead of quality http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea you unfortunately right. I hate more and more arcadish planes instead more precision FM/DM.

CaptainGelo
04-30-2004, 12:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwiatos:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VVS-Manuc:
boring http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

what is the status of bugfixing with this patch? Or will we get only more useless planes with funny FM and DM?

numbers instead of quality http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea you unfortunately right. I hate more and more arcadish planes instead more precision FM/DM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

cry me a river..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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plane is 2slow, guns are 2weak and DM suck?...Then click here (http://www.hmp16.com/hotstuff/downloads/Justin%20Timberlake%20-%20Cry%20Me%20A%20River.mp3)

Fear british army. (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/British_Attack.wmv)

Blair and Bush got a thing together (http://216.144.230.195/Videos/Medium_WMP8/Endless_Love.wmv)



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TheKetamineKid
04-30-2004, 01:19 PM
Good grief...is this it? what a load of poo..no wonder its free.....mind u i cant wait to fly yet another yak, im sure it will be so different to the 74 other yaks that are in the game.

"Full real? How can you call it full real when you're still using auto-pitch on that 109...now grt your coat and p**s off back to Crimson Skies!"

JG7_Rall
04-30-2004, 01:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kwiatos:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VVS-Manuc:
boring http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

what is the status of bugfixing with this patch? Or will we get only more useless planes with funny FM and DM?

numbers instead of quality http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea you unfortunately right. I hate more and more arcadish planes instead more precision FM/DM.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

At the moment I do thinks its quantity over quality but lets wait for the patch before complaining that we're getting more planes without bug fixes. No one knows yet. Save your whinning for after the patch, then it may or may not be justified http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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vanelvis
04-30-2004, 01:25 PM
Two more weeks again. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

Future-
04-30-2004, 01:46 PM
There is a god. YES! Finally an update on AEP again. Nice pics.
And although I'm not as bad as people like Manuc crying for bugfix/game change infos, it sure would have been nice to get at least a handful of mentions on upcoming fixes/changes.


Btw, I heard a lot of rumors recently:

1.) All planes shown in this dev update will be fully flyable

2.) There will be a big load of bugfixes and game changes


A final note here: some bums here cry for more axis planes.... well, you guys obviously ignored the **** load of 109s and 190s that are already in the game, plus the fact that there's one more 190 coming along fully flyable in the add-on/patch too.

Gimme a break, you moronic luft-whiners. Sorry that your fleet of uber-armed axis birds doesn't get more than oneextra plane.
Sorry that you don't know a ****!n' thing about what fixes/changes are coming, yet you already complain. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

Crazyivan JUST GOT ME A NICE 1 WEEK VACATION!! WOOHHOOO...!!!!

I get one at least once a week, believe me, it's extremely relaxing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


Everybody have a nice weekend, and a big thx once again for this nice dev update! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

S!

- Future

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ploughman
04-30-2004, 02:47 PM
I'm thrilled to bits to be finally able to fly a Mk IX Spit in this excellent game. For me, and I would guess for many Commonwealth folks this is THE Spitfire.
I am lucky enough to live in a place where, during the summer airshow season, I can expect to hear the sound of a Merlin most weekendsand it always gets me running outside, scanning the skies.
For many people in occupied Europe the Merlin was the sound of freedom; and for many of them it came in the form of a MK IX Spitfire.
So those of you who think this is a pants update you have not a clue.

woofiedog
04-30-2004, 03:00 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gifThe new updates look great... But we need Bombers and more assortment of Italian, French, and Japanese aircraft... fighters and bombers.
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gifGreat Work THANK'S

Roast
04-30-2004, 04:24 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vortex_uk:
Why can't they give it a rest with all the allied planes already? We got enough Yaks and Laggs,more axis fighters!

Yes, more Italian fighters if you please, Oleg ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Roast

VW-IceFire
04-30-2004, 05:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ploughman:
I'm thrilled to bits to be finally able to fly a Mk IX Spit in this excellent game. For me, and I would guess for many Commonwealth folks this is THE Spitfire.
I am lucky enough to live in a place where, during the summer airshow season, I can expect to hear the sound of a Merlin most weekendsand it always gets me running outside, scanning the skies.
For many people in occupied Europe the Merlin was the sound of freedom; and for many of them it came in the form of a MK IX Spitfire.
So those of you who think this is a pants update you have not a clue.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Absolutely right...although the Spit I'm really waiting for is a Mark XIV...the Spitfire IX is the next best thing and a darned good fighter even in the late war. Should be a great one to have!

I'm looking forward to the new Yak's, FW190's, and all the other new planes (and the new tanks!). Simply great.

What new axis planes should we be getting? Compaired to minor 3D modifications to the current Yak or LaGG models how significant would these new planes be? Simple fact is that build a Yak-9UT probably took them almost no time at all...compaired to creating a new plane and cockpit (plus 4-5 levels of detail, damage models, and other attributes). Lets be realistic yesno?

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04-30-2004, 06:06 PM
Thanks for the Update guys!
I have not read the posts here, however I think its funny about some people complaining about the Lack of AEP updates over the last 2 weeks.
This update while appreciated, is one of those so what! big deal! not much new here! we seen this sort of thing before, type of updates.

However the Pacific Fighters updates we have had over the previouse fortnight, with aircraft carriers and B-29s etc, which has been pretty exciting stuff by comparison.

Chuckle, oh well they complained about having their AEP update, perhaps they are suitable bored now.

Thanks anyway guys, all updates are appreciated.

S!

SeaFireLIV
04-30-2004, 06:08 PM
Oleg, if you`re reading this, thanx for the updates and improvements that seem to be in the patch. Ignore the childish whines that are forever unappreciative.

Like Capt._Tenneal says screenshots of bug inprovements are hard to show and aren`t too exciting in numerous lines of text. As with all your updates patches the real wotk is under the bonnet of FB.

Thanx and we all look forward to a great patch.

SeaFireLIV...



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KGr.HH-Sunburst
04-30-2004, 08:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future-:
There is a god. YES! Finally an update on AEP again. Nice pics.
And although I'm not as bad as people like Manuc crying for bugfix/game change infos, it sure would have been nice to get at least a handful of mentions on upcoming fixes/changes.


Btw, I heard a lot of rumors recently:

1.) All planes shown in this dev update will be fully flyable

2.) There will be a big load of bugfixes and game changes


A final note here: some bums here cry for more axis planes.... well, you guys obviously ignored the **** load of 109s and 190s that are already in the game, plus the fact that there's one more 190 coming along fully flyable in the add-on/patch too.

Gimme a break, you moronic luft-whiners. Sorry that your fleet of uber-armed axis birds doesn't get more than oneextra plane.
Sorry that you don't know a ****!n' thing about what fixes/changes are coming, yet you already complain. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif


I get one at least once a week, believe me, it's extremely relaxing http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif


Everybody have a nice weekend, and a big thx once again for this nice dev update! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

S!

- Future

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380th Bomb Group 5th AF USAAF

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


is your mother proud of you ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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Future-
04-30-2004, 11:05 PM
"is your mother proud of you ?"


Well, actually yes! At least most of the time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

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XyZspineZyX
05-01-2004, 02:38 AM
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Dear Sir,

There is a little and understandable mistake with the denomination of one of the pictures, this one;
http://users.skynet.be/sb314718/images/spit.gif
It is state as a Spitfire MK IX high altitude, but sorry it is not it is MK VII, I quote here a book;
"...the Spitfire IXs were categorized as LF, F and HF. (low-, medium- or high-altitude), but no external changes distinguished these variants..."
Clipped wings were only for roll rate and speed gains.
A last remarq if this should be a MK VII then it should have a retractable tail wheel and a "C" wing not a "E" wing like on the picture.

Sensei.

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buz13
05-01-2004, 05:23 AM
Nice pictures.....but I would rather have an update that listed features of the patch...which aircraft are added, which are flyable, bug fixes, new features. Cause it's not always true that "one picture is worth a thousand words". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

CaptainGelo
05-01-2004, 05:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buz13:
Nice pictures.....but I would rather have an update that listed features of the patch...which aircraft are added, which are flyable, bug fixes, new features. Cause it's not always true that "one picture is worth a thousand words". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

agreed...but maybe they still fixing some bugs..so they dont know waht is going to get fixed..

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LeadSpitter_
05-01-2004, 10:35 AM
I thought we were suppost to get 10-12 new aircraft in the patch for AEP as oleg stated awhile back.

I thought there were going to be completely new models like the ju88 and b25 + others new aircraft models added in the patch. A designation change of an old model and simply changing performance numbers of old models that were the same models from the original il2 sturmovik is not new aircraft to me anyways.

thanks for the post thunak its nice to slighty know whats being worked on for AEP.

Many of us we are most concerned about bug fixes, online performance and dedicated server if you could post any information about that thunak it would be most appreciated.

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FiddleSmith
05-01-2004, 05:25 PM
I do not visit this site much so sorry if i am too clueless. aep has been out, is this a patch for that addon or is this a new addon?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thunak:
This week's development update has been added to the site. This week we present a "pot-pourri" of some of the aircraft you will find in the AEP add-on due out shortly. Just a few images to whet your appetite.



The update is available now by http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php.


T<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

VW-IceFire
05-01-2004, 05:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FiddleSmith:
I do not visit this site much so sorry if i am too clueless. aep has been out, is this a patch for that addon or is this a new addon?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thunak:
This week's development update has been added to the site. This week we present a "pot-pourri" of some of the aircraft you will find in the AEP add-on due out shortly. Just a few images to whet your appetite.



The update is available now by http://www.il2sturmovik.com/forgotten_battles/fb_development.php.


T<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Its a patch for AEP with a number of potential fixes and "new" airplanes. There's actually only one new airplane and a whole bunch of variations.

Ju88, B-25 flyable, and others I'm hoping for in the next patch.

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Zentaurus
05-01-2004, 05:50 PM
Its amazing, there is a developmentupdate introducing 14 "new" planes out of which only one is axis and if some people "say we want more axis planes" or "for me its a boring update because it doesnt include what i was expecting" they are put down, ridiculed, called whiners and worse...
quote: Go and get a blowj0b, you seem to be in desperate need of one. (Future)

I cant say how much i loath such a primitive, arrogant, narrowminded and intolerant behaviour..
Why are people like this not getting banned from the forums immediately ? Its sad....or is this good american style nowadays ? Good patriot Future , arent you ? No wonder people in the rest of the world are starting to have enough of americans..

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Zentaurus
05-01-2004, 06:02 PM
Apart of that i think its not getting easier for LW with those new planes but even as a LW guy i am seeing forward to the spit IX.

Historical recreation of most theaters is of course not yet possible as long as we dont even have Ju88 flyable, one of the standard bombers of LW in countless variations throughout the whole war. Or FW A3 which was the FW which took on the Spits first...or Tempest, Typhoon, Mosquito and other basic planes...instead we get more variations of Yak and Lagg....well, it will help WS in VEF a bit...
But i am convinced all this stuff will appear eventually, and yes, lets have the 109 10/14 AS variations, if its so easy to make those variations make some more for Axis too...
Thx Oleg,

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Copperhead310th
05-01-2004, 06:15 PM
Future,
Captain get your butt in my office. NOW! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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CaptainGelo
05-02-2004, 02:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zentaurus:
Its amazing, there is a developmentupdate introducing 14 "new" planes out of which only one is axis and if some people "say we want more axis planes" or "for me its a boring update because it doesnt include what i was expecting" they are put down, ridiculed, called whiners and worse...
quote: Go and get a blowj0b, you seem to be in desperate need of one. (Future)

I cant say how much i loath such a primitive, arrogant, narrowminded and intolerant behaviour..
Why are people like this not getting banned from the forums immediately ? Its sad....or is this good american style nowadays ? Good patriot Future , arent you ? No wonder people in the rest of the world are starting to have enough of americans..

II/JG54_Zent

http://groups.msn.com/IIGruppeJagdgeschwader54<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

try to count how many Axis planes and how many allide is in this game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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WOLFMondo
05-02-2004, 09:42 AM
Is the Spitfire IX model there any different from the VB model except more exaust stacks? I know irl they had the same airframe but with a different engine which made the nose longer but the IX in that image looks like the nose is the same length as the V nose.

Just out of curiosity....

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CapBackassward
05-02-2004, 12:38 PM
Yea. The void bitmap for the Spitfire 9 threw me at first too.

It doesn't matter what the bitmap looks like - it is the 3D model files for each aircraft that determine what is rendered on the screen.

So you could basically just draw\paint the entire exhaust all rust brown and it will still render as a shape determined by the 3D model files.

Rick

Curly_109
05-02-2004, 01:57 PM
i'm looking forward with this update... excellent http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

i've also noticed a great number of people ridiculosly arguing (they must have serious problems --- but it's o.k. if these problems are in connection with the frustration which a player can get after a few unsucceful missions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif)

"screw axis", "luftwhiners" etc... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

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Tvrdi
05-03-2004, 05:02 AM
it would be great thing for this sim if they concentrate their work on bug fixes (DM etc.) instead of buliding new planes.....I love new planes but most important is to solve the probs...what we can do with new planes if we gonna fly with screwed planes?

FAFL_Aguirre
05-03-2004, 05:20 AM
If Oleg doesn't give an update people complain, when he does give an update people complain, am guessing its probably the same people!

Thanks for the update- am amazed everyday at the number of planes in this game-as well as ground objects, and am greatly enjoying learning how to fly them.

As for the chap mentioning the sound of the Merlin do you live by any chance near the Duxford air museum in the UK- I used to live around there- weekends were amazing- seeing warbirds flying around the english countryside was a real treat. I returned last weekend to visit and once again had the priviledge of seeing a Spitfire take off and give a little display. Duxford is a great museum.

Ok i'd better give the floor back to those who want to complain!

GAJIT
05-03-2004, 01:27 PM
I understand what you say but i'm sure that Oleg and his excellent team don't just want praise but constructive communication from us - their obviously valued customers. A bit of constructive critisim must be valued as they always seek it. Can we leave it to you to keep up the praising? LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FAFL_Aguirre:
If Oleg doesn't give an update people complain, when he does give an update people complain, am guessing its probably the same people!

Thanks for the update- am amazed everyday at the number of planes in this game-as well as ground objects, and am greatly enjoying learning how to fly them.

As for the chap mentioning the sound of the Merlin do you live by any chance near the Duxford air museum in the UK- I used to live around there- weekends were amazing- seeing warbirds flying around the english countryside was a real treat. I returned last weekend to visit and once again had the priviledge of seeing a Spitfire take off and give a little display. Duxford is a great museum.

Ok i'd better give the floor back to those who want to complain!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lashenden1
05-04-2004, 07:08 AM
But what about the Tempest...? Like many others I'm sure many of the flyable planes are rarely flown in reality, but somebody loves them! However, the Tempest would be quite a different experience compared to the generality of mid-war fighters or fighter/bombers.
Also, whats happened to the B 25's?
Also, showing an indication of my ignorance concerning Spits, I always thought that C/W variants were quite rare, butthe prelavence of c/w models seems to suggest otherwise. How common were they comapared to standard types?
Lastly, is it me, or is the spit cockpit rendering a bit crude compared to other recent models (Bf 110 and Ju 87, for instance)?

Lashenden1
05-04-2004, 07:18 AM
Just another thought, but why do we have a YP-80 that didn't take part in WWII combat, but not a Gloster Meteor that did? Hang on, I think I know the answer- marketing! Tom Cruise really did win the Battle of Britain.

WOLFMondo
05-04-2004, 07:51 AM
I think the Tempest is being revised or something, you can still see the renders in the old dev updates, not sure what happened but it looked ready along time ago (and was looking great, especially the DM).

Not sure how it would fly, I assume it would have characteristics like a Thunderbolt does at high altitudes when the Tempest is at sea level, the II could top 406 mph at sea level so...

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Krotos
05-04-2004, 07:57 AM
Wow, more Yaks, and Lags! So, when are the Luftwaffe fans going to get examples of the highly significant aircraft the German inventory lacks -- Specifically, where are the Me-110, 210, and 410? Except for the Me-163, the He-111, and Ju-87 (two of which are bombers, and the other a machine of dubious importance) all we have to fly are variants of the Fw-190 (many of which are missing) and a plethora of Me109's. Please oh please - give us Luftwaffe fans a bit of variety.

WOLFMondo
05-04-2004, 09:58 AM
Theres already a 110 flyable and a number of different versions of the BF109 (even a dubious onehttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), The FW190 A6 is coming and the 210 and 410 would be nice but as far as Germany went there wasn't much variety compared with the allies. There were 3 countries there churning out different planes and versions for the allies but Germany by itself which really only had 2 main front line fighters. Japan had a number of front line fighters as well but we won't see them till PF.

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Willi_Wombat
05-04-2004, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Future-:
(There is a god.

Gimme a break, you moronic luft-whiners. Sorry that your fleet of uber-armed axis birds doesn't get more than oneextra plane.
Sorry that you don't know a ****!n' thing about what fixes/changes are coming, yet you already complain. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif )
- Future
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Future,

Once again, your child-like attitude in this forum invalidates any opinions you may attempt to express. Stop kidding yourself, show your baby talk to your mom and really see what she thinks.

WW

blakesleewaffe
05-05-2004, 12:38 AM
Thanks for the update. I am really looking forward to the Spitfire IX addition! But one observation: Sorry if this has been addressed before, but about the Spitfire IX with extended wing tips? No, I don't think so. I am sure if I remember correctly, that the extended wing tips were used in limited numbers, on a version of the Spitfire VII and also used on the VIII. Both aircraft, of which had a retractable tail wheel. Can anyone comment on this?
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nixon-fiend.
05-05-2004, 11:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lashenden1:
Also, showing an indication of my ignorance concerning Spits, I always thought that C/W variants were quite rare, butthe prelavence of c/w models seems to suggest otherwise.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, the CW was a common mod - most mk.Vs ended up having their wings clipped.

Oh and we have a yp-80 because 'Gibbage1' aka Kevin Miller (a 3rd party modeller) modelled it for inclusion in the game (along with the p63, p38, Go229 and the spitfires) - It has little to do with marketing.

If you want a meteor find a modeller with the inclination to undertake the project.

And Blakes.. you are correct, there were no mk.IXs with the extended wing tips (unless it was top secret at the time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif) Although a number of mks had them.. VII, VIII, VI (maybe a couple more too.. but not the Ix)

Future-
05-05-2004, 04:04 PM
@ Willi_Wombat: http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif


@ Krotos: As WOLFMondo said, there already is one Bf-110 fully flyable. I think somebody is/was working on the 210, but I don't know for sure. Also, no clue here about the 410.

However, your assesment about german planes isn't fully correct. While the Me-163 suffered from certain technical problems, it definitely was a breakthrough in design & development, as well as the He-162, the Go-229 and the Me-262.
Though most of them didn't see much action in WW2 due to supply problems, they certainly are most deadly in FB/AEP, if used properly.

I believe the Luftwaffe already has a good "variety", especially regarding the 190s and 109s. However, since during the last months mainly the 190s and 109s received a wider selection of variants in the game, I think it's just fair that some of the russian mainline fighters get a boost as well (remember, after all, a russian team develops this game).


@ Lashenden1: The B-25 series is planned to be released with 4 plane types in the upcoming patch, as ai planes. Cockpits are planned to be released later this year, along with fully flyable Ju-88 and A-20.
About the YP-80, you have to see that all those planes we are getting now are the projects of 3rd party modellers. What they decide to create is up to them; Oleg decides if he wants to incorporate this plane, and if it meets his quality standards.
The Meteor isn't there because noone has modelled it.
So skip your "marketing-decision" speech...

Besides, if this game would just be swarming with mass-produced planes, then it's title ("FORGOTTEN Battles") wouldn't be much fitting.
The only plane that I also find to be misplacedis the 109 Z, as it never really existed.
Having planes in this game that only reached prototype phase is one thing (and a good thing!), but modelling a plane that never existed leaves a slightly bad taste in my mouth.


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FAFL_Aguirre
05-06-2004, 01:37 AM
GAJIT I agree- critism is a good thing- and its helped this game improve greatly- thanks to all those guys out there who look up stuff, test etc and provide CONSTRUCTIVE critisim. And there is plenty of that out there. Just for this particular update there just isn't a lot of constructive critism- i guess thats the point i should have made.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GAJIT:
I understand what you say but i'm sure that Oleg and his excellent team don't just want praise but constructive communication from us - their obviously valued customers. A bit of constructive critisim must be valued as they always seek it. Can we leave it to you to keep up the praising? LOL

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FAFL_Aguirre:
If Oleg doesn't give an update people complain, when he does give an update people complain, am guessing its probably the same people!

Thanks for the update- am amazed everyday at the number of planes in this game-as well as ground objects, and am greatly enjoying learning how to fly them.

As for the chap mentioning the sound of the Merlin do you live by any chance near the Duxford air museum in the UK- I used to live around there- weekends were amazing- seeing warbirds flying around the english countryside was a real treat. I returned last weekend to visit and once again had the priviledge of seeing a Spitfire take off and give a little display. Duxford is a great museum.

Ok i'd better give the floor back to those who want to complain!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Willey
05-07-2004, 08:56 AM
What a BORING dev up! It shows which planes become flyable but we knew that anyway. What's so special about those P-36es?? Damn I can watch them in my 2.0 QMB already. If they're gonna be flyable, I want to see cockpits, and not externals I already have. This is a common practise... I remember they showed us Me-262, La-7 and K-4 externals before FB arrived, and He-162 Externals before AEP arrived. Just some examples. The A-6 looks like an A-5, just with a different skin and longer outer wing guns. The LaGGs look like the 66 series we have already... (the 29 has no slats which can't be seen on that shot) and LOL a HF Spit IX with extended wings! CFS??? Nice Yaks... how does the bombrack of the 9B look like? Yak-9UT looks like Yak-9U"K" to me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif - 45mm gun?? The rest which really shows something new can be counted on one hand...