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p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 03:14 PM
just wondering, what other planes will be able to perfom with the ta152?
i dunno much about it so http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
any info about it would be handy too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
thanks

p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 03:14 PM
just wondering, what other planes will be able to perfom with the ta152?
i dunno much about it so http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
any info about it would be handy too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
thanks

VW-IceFire
02-08-2004, 03:18 PM
Should be an interesting bird. I don't have or know all the specs but its supposed to be (the one were getting) a high altitude interceptor. Its got a large wing span, a good turn radius, and its fast, very fast. But the FW190D-9 will actually be faster at low levels...so its a bit of a tradeoff. I think the armament is 1x30mm (MK108?) and 2x20mm (MG151/20).

In theory at high altitudes its reputed to leave Mustangs in the dust. At low altitudes (and when we get it!) it'll still be meat for a nice Tempest V.

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02-08-2004, 03:45 PM
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p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 03:49 PM
ah, so p51 speeds ish (low medium alt) and la turner

so good chance tobe the new n00b plane? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LeadSpitter_
02-08-2004, 03:52 PM
No prop in this sim including the addon can even come close. The only other prop that compairs is the fiat G.55 Fiat Centauro.

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Bull_dog_
02-08-2004, 04:48 PM
I'm afraid if it is modelled right it will be a very difficult beast to fight against...I have nightmares of servers full of Ta-152's or the opposite where they are banned in most like the Me-262.

I think it is unfortunate that there is no modelling of the late 45-46 allied aircraft that could compete with it like the Tempest II, the Hornet, Tigercat, Sea Fury, Bearcat maybe? or even the late model Mustangs and lightnings...

I think I read somewhere where someone was working on a P-47M or N but I still doubt that those aircraft will stand up against the Ta-152 if I heard correctly even.

p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 05:23 PM
need a m for a dogfight room i suspect. eagle has someone working on the N. n had longer range even more weight.. could roll better than m/d.
late spit may stand half a chance

Thrawn888
02-08-2004, 08:09 PM
if the H model wasnt scary enough the C version is also scary as it is the lower alt version and more heavily armed with an additional 2 20mm cannon on the engine.

Aas far as planes that could oppose it i think an LA9/11 could but none are modelled so maybe perhaps the p80 would be your hope for stopping one

p1ngu666
02-08-2004, 08:53 PM
yes thats alot of guns
that was only a prototype?

WUAF_Badsight
02-08-2004, 09:31 PM
the THREE BEST prop fighters ever ?

TA-152

SEA FURY

BEARCAT

period

jagdmailer
02-08-2004, 10:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thrawn888:
if the H model wasnt scary enough the C version is also scary as it is the lower alt version and more heavily armed with an additional 2 20mm cannon on the engine.

Aas far as planes that could oppose it i think an LA9/11 could but none are modelled so maybe perhaps the p80 would be your hope for stopping one<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Harti has a fully textured and skinned Ta 152C-1 model posted in Netwings modeller's & developper's forum.....http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If this beast has a proper FM to go with its Mk108 30mm & 4 MG151-152/20mm, hang on to your hats.....

Cheers,

JagdMailer

Thrawn888
02-08-2004, 10:48 PM
just a quick question, does the ta152 C have a 108 or 103 in the hub iv heard both versions but on the internet alot of sources are bogus so i figured id ask

Thrawn888
02-08-2004, 10:51 PM
as far as whether or not the ta152C was a prototype the answer as far as i know is no i believe a handful were produced before the factory was overran by the soviets

jagdmailer
02-08-2004, 11:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Thrawn888:
just a quick question, does the ta152 C have a 108 or 103 in the hub iv heard both versions but on the internet alot of sources are bogus so i figured id ask<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

As far as engine cannon, most of the credible references I have access to make mention of a Mk 108 motor-kanone. Ta 152C was not really a ground attack aicraft, but mostly "labelled" by credible authors as a Zerstorer.

JagdMailer

BlindHuck
02-08-2004, 11:23 PM
From what I've read of flying the Ta152H it had a slow roll (360 deg./4.9 sec.), especially initially and according to Eric Brown was less maneuverable than 190A's below 25000 ft though more stable (the higher, the better), climbed very quickly and turned on a short string. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

"During dogfights the P-51 would turn very sharply and fire its guns almost immediately. Initially, during the first turn, the Ta152's turn radius would be larger than the P-51's, but would become smaller. Thus, if one survived the first attack of a Mustang in a dogfight, it was quite possible to line up behind the Mustang during the following turns." - Feldwebel Rudi Driebe 10.III./JG301 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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Thrawn888
02-08-2004, 11:40 PM
I wonder if the ta152 C/H could own a LA9/11

BlindHuck
02-08-2004, 11:40 PM
C-1 had MK 108 (90 rds) in nose, MG151/20's in cowl and wing roots (150/175 rds).
C-3 had MK 103 (80 rds) in nose, rest same.
There were initial plans to install 4xMG213A's. 20mm revolver canon 1200rpm EACH, (one wonders where the ammo would have been kept) but only about ten were made.

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Thrawn888
02-08-2004, 11:49 PM
i can only imagine what aircraft woulda been in the war and how others woulda been if the war went on for another few years.....p80 woulda been in it for sure as well as vampire....all mixing it up with the ta152 and gotha jet bombers, a really interesting setting

Hristo_
02-08-2004, 11:50 PM
Ta 152H
Heavy, low drag, long wingspan airframe, with relatively low wingloading (for a Focke Wulf http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif), optimized for high alt.

This translates into excellent diving abilities,better than any other Fw. It is also a decent sustained turner, although A series arer probably better instantenous turners. Its E retention will be fantastic, on par with Mustang or better. Level acceleration will be only average and probably worse than earlier 190s, due to relatively low powerloading. Its sustained climb will also be average for a late war bird, while zoom climb should be excellent.
As the fight goes up, it will do better and better, as it is its natural territory. Expect it to outperform anything at extreme altitudes, but do not expect miracles - every plane is shoddy up high http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Range on internal tanks is excellent and actually longer than that of P 51. You can take 25% fuel in At 152H and fly longer than with 25% fuel in P51D. This is where this plane will really shine, as its performance will benefit very much because of it.

It is not as direct attacker as Fw 190A are. Its roll and instantenous turn make it more closer to P51 regarding its combat profile.


Best is to use it as an E fighter and not to go too low, where will be outperformed by most Soviet late war planes. As for US planes, it will outperform them at any alt in almost any aspect.

WUAF_Badsight
02-09-2004, 12:09 AM
the LA-11 was a LA-9 with larger fuel tanks

it was slightly heavier

it also had 1950 HP , the LA-9 was lighter than the LA-7 with 4 cannon instead of 3