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Tvrdi
09-13-2004, 02:36 PM
tested online in DOG1 (miss. type 1)...timer started when gears were retracted..then climbing to 2300 m....flying all the time with 100% throttle and boost (if present)..

the results:

USAAF:
P38L app. 7 min
P39Q-10 app. 7 min
P47D27 app. 6,05 min
P51D20NA app. 6,30 min
P63C5 app. 8 min
LW:
BF109G6AS app. 5 min
Bf109K4 app. 4,45 min
FW190D9 app. 5 min
Fw190D9 Late app. 5 min
Ta152H-1 app. 5 min
Fw190A8 no overheating after 10 min (out of fuel) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

RAF:
SpitIXc no overheating after 14 mins....testing was over (no more nerves) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

IJAF:
Zero ---- very strange behaviour, first measuring --4 mins, sec.---8 mins, 3rd at 300m - 5 mins http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif....throttle lowered to 0% after overheating, then temp. indicator droped dramaticaly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif


I wonder why we even have overheating modeled in the FB....I hope they will pay more attention to overheating in PF...its real disadvantage when ur crippled at the start in dog cause your plane overheats like a teenager or plane of ur enemy overheats after 18? mins..or never..its annoying

Tvrdi
09-13-2004, 02:36 PM
tested online in DOG1 (miss. type 1)...timer started when gears were retracted..then climbing to 2300 m....flying all the time with 100% throttle and boost (if present)..

the results:

USAAF:
P38L app. 7 min
P39Q-10 app. 7 min
P47D27 app. 6,05 min
P51D20NA app. 6,30 min
P63C5 app. 8 min
LW:
BF109G6AS app. 5 min
Bf109K4 app. 4,45 min
FW190D9 app. 5 min
Fw190D9 Late app. 5 min
Ta152H-1 app. 5 min
Fw190A8 no overheating after 10 min (out of fuel) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

RAF:
SpitIXc no overheating after 14 mins....testing was over (no more nerves) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

IJAF:
Zero ---- very strange behaviour, first measuring --4 mins, sec.---8 mins, 3rd at 300m - 5 mins http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif....throttle lowered to 0% after overheating, then temp. indicator droped dramaticaly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif


I wonder why we even have overheating modeled in the FB....I hope they will pay more attention to overheating in PF...its real disadvantage when ur crippled at the start in dog cause your plane overheats like a teenager or plane of ur enemy overheats after 18? mins..or never..its annoying

bazzaah2
09-13-2004, 02:47 PM
yep interesting that cooling down times are very rapid in pretty much most cases i.e. just reduce throttle for temp. to drop, apart from the Spitfire I think.

I must be the only one that has got the Spit to overheat, lol. I'm tired and crnaky so am off to test it.

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bazzaah2
09-13-2004, 03:06 PM
just got the IXc to o/heat after 6 mins at WEP.

3000 odd meters over Crimea.

Curioser and curiouser.

I wonder if the other Spitfires which cannot be forced to overheat will overheat as well.

What a shame the bookie's closed, lol.

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Tvrdi
09-13-2004, 03:10 PM
bazzaah2..hehe..yes, crimea map is one with proper "overheating behaviour" as Oleg stated before..pls test the spitIX in any other map at 2200 m like me....I tested those planes in miss type 1 (default dog1)...btw nice try for ur favourite plane http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

p1ngu666
09-13-2004, 03:20 PM
what radiator setting u use?

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VW-IceFire
09-13-2004, 03:21 PM
Spitfire, my most second favorite plane, needs overheating fixed. It was broken before (overheated very quickly) and its broken now (never overheats).

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Abbuzze
09-13-2004, 03:33 PM
With 100% you mean full throttle? Cause some planes have 110% http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Also interesting, early 109s without MW50.
And most interesting, time to kill your engine.. when the first bad sounds apear... in erlier Versions of il2 some planes got engine overheat fast, but they never got an engine failure- If I remember correct it was the Lagg3 41 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Tvrdi
09-13-2004, 03:34 PM
p1ngu666..ahh sry i forgot that important tip..rad was at open in all planes all the time (from the start)...and of course, planes where u can go to 110% throttle were flown at that max throttle....

bazzaah2
09-13-2004, 04:00 PM
lol, Tvrdi.

Yep, we should do tests on same basis.

I will leave rad on default, level flight at 2200m (or as close as I can manage,lol - me and level flight don't get on so well). I will not touch the radiator and will time using track timings. I will not look at cooling times, just the time it takes to overheat at 2200m, WEP engaged, throttle fullly forward.

I agree that the Spits are definitely slow to overheat in comparison with other planes, but I have no idea whether the Spits are more/less realistic than others. If each spit variant is over/underdone then we should definitely try and get it ironed out.

I'll also test without WEP at max. throttle.

We need to know what each variant could achieve in RL as well, but I am loathe for this thread to turn into a Hop/Kurfurst big 'graph' competition, y'know the kind of thing - that test is invalid because the squadron dog had only been walked that morning, whereas records show that the squadron dog was always walked between 4 and 4.30 each afternoon, except Sundays. RLM records show that most Luftwaffe squadrons were equipped with Alsatians, often called Hans, but Eric Brown is very explicit about the fact that RAF fronltline squadrons were equipped with King Charles Spaniels with well trimmed claws and a love of ice cream, and answered willingly to the name Roger. You know the kind of thing. Woops, I'll get me coat.

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Tvrdi
09-13-2004, 04:10 PM
actually my favourite fighter is Zero..2nd is Spit..but Im not happy if somethin is wrong with my plane, even if it is in my favour http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif btw rad is automatic in SPitIX

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09-13-2004, 05:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>but Eric Brown is very explicit about the fact that RAF fronltline squadrons were equipped with King Charles Spaniels with well trimmed claws and a love of ice cream, and answered willingly to the name Roger. You know the kind of thing. Woops, I'll get me coat.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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p1ngu666
09-13-2004, 05:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bazzaah2:
lol, Tvrdi.

Yep, we should do tests on same basis.

I will leave rad on default, level flight at 2200m (or as close as I can manage,lol - me and level flight don't get on so well). I will not touch the radiator and will time using track timings. I will not look at cooling times, just the time it takes to overheat at 2200m, WEP engaged, throttle fullly forward.

I agree that the Spits are definitely slow to overheat in comparison with other planes, but I have no idea whether the Spits are more/less realistic than others. If each spit variant is over/underdone then we should definitely try and get it ironed out.

I'll also test without WEP at max. throttle.

We need to know what each variant could achieve in RL as well, but I am loathe for this thread to turn into a Hop/Kurfurst big 'graph' competition, y'know the kind of thing - that test is invalid because the squadron dog had only been walked that morning, whereas records show that the squadron dog was always walked between 4 and 4.30 each afternoon, except Sundays. RLM records show that most Luftwaffe squadrons were equipped with Alsatians, often called Hans, but Eric Brown is very explicit about the fact that RAF fronltline squadrons were equipped with King Charles Spaniels with well trimmed claws and a love of ice cream, and answered willingly to the name Roger. You know the kind of thing. Woops, I'll get me coat.

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