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XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 06:27 PM
I know some one is modeling it
and I wonder if we could get an update on the work.

http://www.udisco.com/hobbies/pics/002064.jpg



Message Edited on 04/21/0311:00AM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 06:27 PM
I know some one is modeling it
and I wonder if we could get an update on the work.

http://www.udisco.com/hobbies/pics/002064.jpg



Message Edited on 04/21/0311:00AM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
04-14-2003, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I second that, where do we stand with this one it deserves to fly again - BUMP

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XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 12:34 PM
bump!

We want the Whirlwind!

Apres moi le deluge - Motto of 617 Sqn RAF.

XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 01:15 PM
Mossie 1st though. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 07:06 PM
No way ! gimme a Whirlwind over that hunk of firewood any day /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Anyone else having trouble trying to get a copy of the only book on this bird ? Whirlwind by Victor Bingham seems to be like gold dust in the second hand bookshops & online.

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XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 08:03 PM
REALLY looking forward to flying a Whirlwind...and doing skins for it too. Lots of room for noseart!


cheers,
Tony
(flying as "wombat" on HL)


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XyZspineZyX
04-16-2003, 10:59 PM
I was beginning to think that I was the only bloke who cared about this aircraft...seems like I was wrong.

Thanks for your support, but I'm afraid it will be a up-hill struggle to get this little known British fighter in FB - it seems to be all down to numbers and who shouts the loudest. So, if like me you think this aircraft should fly again in the world's No.1 fight sim, you had better start shouting...LOUD, TILL YOUR BLUE IN THE MOUTH!! LOL

As regards as to how nils78 project P9 is coming along, it just so happens that I wrote to him over the weekend. Due to work pressure he has had to put the whirly on the back burner for a short while, but said that he would try to post some screenshots over at IL2Center.com this Easter.

MadBadVlad, you will have trouble, as I'm sure you know by now that it's out of print, I managed to get one at a place called 'The Book Barn' in Glastonbury, I'll post some picture's if you like? Another one to look out for is 'Whirlwind Squadron' By Eric Thomason. About Mr. Thomason, an Australian who flew Whirlies with 137 Squadron, early 1942. Keep trying, their out there...somewhere?

I think that's about all for now, only to thank you all for showing that you would support nils78 for all his hard work in bringing the Whirlwind back from the lost pages of aviation history.

Remember, Shout, shout and shout again.


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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-17-2003, 02:34 AM
one of the patients I nurse was a former Whirlwind pilot, and he loved flying it. He loves hearing about dogfights on HL, and he occasionally gives me tips to improve my flying. I'd love to be able to bring in some screenies of the Whirlwind once it's in FB.

Good luck with the project. Is there anything we can do to help?


cheers,
Tony
(flying as "wombat" on HL)


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XyZspineZyX
04-17-2003, 04:59 PM
BSG, I really envy you knowing a pilot that actually flew a Whirlwind. I know it's a bit of a cheek but could you ask him what squadron he was in (263 or 137) and if he can remember what his aircraft's serial No. was, as I would like to know what happened to it?

As regards to the project, I must make it clear that nils78 is the man modeling the Whirlwind and I am only his unofficial advocate so to speak.

You can help by drumming up some support for this forgotten British a/c on the forums though...and maybe it will catch Olegs attention (I understand that Oleg likes unusual a/c)

Perhaps we should start a thread and call it 'Whirlwind Whiner's' Just to see how many of us are out there?

Regards.


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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-17-2003, 06:23 PM
Just found a copy ofthe Bingham book on Abebooks and it is on the way. I did spot one more copy that may still be available if anyone is interested - you can find it at www.aviation-bookshelf.com (http://www.aviation-bookshelf.com) or email airbooks2@aol.com and ask them to check if book no.001013 is still in stock. Its priced at 18 in fine condition.

Thanks for the tip on the biography secudus - will look out for that one.

BSG - any chance that you can let us know a little more about that Whirlwind pilot you are looking after - would be great to have some detail on missions he flew.

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XyZspineZyX
04-17-2003, 06:41 PM
SECUDUS wrote:
- BSG, I really envy you knowing a pilot that actually
- flew a Whirlwind. I know it's a bit of a cheek but
- could you ask him what squadron he was in (263 or
- 137) and if he can remember what his aircraft's
- serial No. was, as I would like to know what
- happened to it?
-
I'll ask him. He suffers from dementia and has a few other problems, but I sometimes manage to catch him in lucid moments. I know he had a name for his aircraft, but I can't remember what it was.


cheers,
Tony
(flying as "wombat" on HL)


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XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 12:11 AM
MadBadVlad wrote:
- Just found a copy ofthe Bingham book on Abebooks and
- it is on the way. I did spot one more copy that may
- still be available if anyone is interested - you can
- find it at www.aviation-bookshelf.com (http://www.aviation-bookshelf.com) or email
- airbooks2@aol.com and ask them to check if book
- no.001013 is still in stock. Its priced at 18 in
- fine condition.

I had a look at that site and the copy you mentioned is not more than 10 miles up the road from me, in Weston-Super-Mare. Small world.

BSG, much appriciated.

Heres some pic's from the book.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/ForgottenFighter/P9Prototype.jpg?0.7234362823651164

http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/ForgottenFighter/whirlwind250lb.jpg?0.6085954795011905

http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/ForgottenFighter/WhirlwindRearm2.jpg?0.869383548806628

http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/ForgottenFighter/WhirlwindRearm3.jpg?0.9533116239102788


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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

Message Edited on 04/18/0312:15AM by SECUDUS

XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 11:53 AM
Luv that Whirlwind. You got any more picture's Sec?

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XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 11:58 AM
Perhaps a way to honour the pilot you know, backseatgunner, is for those who can do skins to create a skin of the plane
he actually few, with serial numbers and so on, if possible.

XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 01:12 PM
Very nice pics Secudus. Got to love those 4 cannons in the nose. This must have been a very stable gun platform, pretty much the same setup as the P-38 with two props and nose guns.

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XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 04:47 PM
I'd love to see this flying alongside my Tempest V and the Mosquito......oh happy days

XyZspineZyX
04-18-2003, 11:25 PM
MBV, the Whirlwind was advanced and well ahead of the opposition and this was in 1939. When you read the book it will make you think why was it left to fizzle out?

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XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 02:38 PM
Bump...why not.

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XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 03:34 PM
bump

XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 04:22 PM
It is a rather good looking plane. It looks somewhat like the DeHavilland comet, the one won the London-melbourne race. Anyone knows if these two planes are related to eachother?

3 And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is
in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy
brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a
beam [is] in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out
the beam out of thine own eye; and
then shalt thou see clearly to cast
out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Message Edited on 04/19/0303:28PM by Platypus_1.JaVA

XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 09:49 PM
Platypus_1.JaVA wrote: Anyone knows if these two planes are related to eachother?

In a word, no. They were a/c designed and built by two different companies, namly De Havilland and Westland.

The Comet Racer of 1934 was a forerunner of the Mosquito of 1940 and clearly demonstrates the strong family resemblance.

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 10:02 PM
I would love to fly a Whirlwind but would like the P-51 first.

XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 10:10 PM
Info and pics

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Primary Function: Two-seat Racer/Mailplane
Manufacturer: The de Havilland Aircraft Company, Ltd., Hatfield, England
Accommodations: Two
First Flight: 8 September 1934
Wingspan: 44 feet 0 inches
Length: 29 feet 0 inches
Height: 10 feet 0 inches
Wing Area: 212 square feet Weights
Empty Weight: 2,840-lbs.
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 5,320-lbs.
No. Engines: Two Engine Manufacturer: de Havilland Engine Designation: Gipsy Six R inline piston engines Engine Power: 230-hp each Performance
Maximum Speed: 237-mph
Cruising Speed: 220-mph
Service Ceiling: 19,000-feet
Range: 2,925-miles Armament
Fixed Armament: None Comments
Background: The DH-88 Comet was designed specifically for the 1934 Victorian Centenary Air Race from Mildenhall, England to Melbourne, Australia.


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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-19-2003, 10:34 PM
SECUDUS wrote:
- Platypus_1.JaVA wrote: Anyone knows if these two
- planes are related to eachother?
-
- In a word, no. They were a/c designed and built by
- two different companies, namly De Havilland and
- Westland.
-
- The Comet Racer of 1934 was a forerunner of the
- Mosquito of 1940 and clearly demonstrates the strong
- family resemblance.
-
I guess you are right but, they might have the same developper or, the Westland engineer looked closely to the Dehavilland aircraft.

Like the early mustangs had to cope with a large portion of friendly fire because they had close resemblance with the Bf-109. The lead developper itself was German and looked closely at the pre-war Bf-109's, He even visited the factories so he could examine all the details.

http://www.flightjournal.com/plane_profiles/p-51_mustang/images/mustang_1_color.jpg


Sorry, I haven't any sources in handy to proof this.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote
that is in thy brother's eye, but
considerest not the beam that is
in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy
brother, Let me pull out the mote
out of thine eye; and, behold, a
beam [is] in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out
the beam out of thine own eye; and
then shalt thou see clearly to cast
out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 12:50 AM
Platypus_1.JaVA wrote:Sorry, I haven't any sources in handy to proof this.

Interesting...I'll look into it.

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 01:48 AM
Very Very Interesting thread,flew a Whirlwind on cfs2 and loved its looks and four cannon,unfortunely it could'nt fly as well as it looked...no doubt a FB version would be miles ahead in the performance area...

XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 02:13 AM
You would hope so...but unless more people in this community ask for it to be included in FB, nils78 hard work will be for naught and I for one will endeavor to promote him and the Whirlwind until it is.

Check out the cockpit.

http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/ForgottenFighter/Whirlwindfv.jpg?0.07046275951147113

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XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 01:39 PM
Knock, knock?

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XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 03:07 PM
On 3:

1,2,3! WHIRLWIND! WHIRLWIND! WHIRLWIND!...

http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/2249294.jpg
http://www.viralsound.com/get.php/nick=KurtTank

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XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 05:32 PM
That's what we want!

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 08:28 PM
I know that there was an swedish woluteer
that flew a Wirlie for RAF in WWII
but got killed by an ambush of Bf109s
when they were attacking a boat convoy
I even know of a pic in colour of his aircraft
i vill try to post it here.


backseatgunner wrote:
- one of the patients I nurse was a former Whirlwind
- pilot, and he loved flying it. He loves hearing
- about dogfights on HL, and he occasionally gives me
- tips to improve my flying. I'd love to be able to
- bring in some screenies of the Whirlwind once it's
- in FB.
-

-
PLEAS cant you ask him how it was to fly it
would be great to read an intervue with him
if its possible.




Message Edited on 04/20/0308:06PM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
04-20-2003, 11:21 PM
fjuff79 wrote:
- I know that there was an swedish woluteer
- that flew a Wirlie for RAF in WWII
- but got killed by an ambush of Bf109s
- when they were attacking a boat convoy
- I even know of a pic in colour of his aircraft
- i vill try to post it here.

If you know the a/c serial No. let me know, with that I can trace its history.

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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 12:17 AM
This beautiful aircraft certainly deserves to see the light of (a virtual) day again. Mind you, from what I've read, It's altitude performance due to its underpowered Peregrine engines really done for it back in its heyday. Slight tweak to the FM and performance perhaps?. Lets see it flying one more time!!!.

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 11:22 AM
I know it performed really good at low alt
thats why it should fit FB so well.
this is the Wirlwind flown by
Swedish Pilot officer Ralph Otto Gustaf H¤ggberg, RAF No.120677
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/swedish_aviators/images/whirlwind_1.jpg


here you have some more info
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/swedish_aviators/haggberg.htm


Message Edited on 04/21/03 11:16AM by fjuff79

Message Edited on 04/21/0311:16AM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 12:04 PM
Good info fjuff79, I'll post a clip from 'Whirlwind Squadron' about Operation 'Cerberus'

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 12:19 PM
SECUDUS wrote:
- Good info fjuff79, I'll post a clip from 'Whirlwind
- Squadron' about Operation 'Cerberus'

Great!

do you have any other interesting info about
the Wirlwind?

and please show some more pics if you have any.

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 12:55 PM
Looks like a nice plane. I had heard little about it other than passing mention in a few books.

Someone let me in on the planes history then. Someone mentioned 1939. Was it being prototyped in that year then?
And why did it go out of favour?

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 01:13 PM
Using Google search is a good way to get info. This link from Google search will give you much info on the Whirlwind.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=Westland+Whirlwind&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=10&sa=N

Just be careful, there was an helicopter with the same name


Komsomol wrote:
- Looks like a nice plane. I had heard little about it
- other than passing mention in a few books.
-
- Someone let me in on the planes history then.
- Someone mentioned 1939. Was it being prototyped in
- that year then?
- And why did it go out of favour?
-
-



**** beware the charge of the rhinos ****

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XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 02:02 PM
Here's the info for Operation 'Cerberus' excerts from Whirlwind Squadron. By Eric Thomason DFC, DFM.


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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 03:24 PM
While looking through the a/c histories I came across this entry; P6994 To 51 MU 24.1.41. To 263 Squadron 13.2.41. Returned to works 29.3.41. and again 1.11.41. To MU on 14.2.42 then shipped to the USA on 5.6.42.

Why and where did this a/c go?


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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 03:52 PM
Thanks
intresting reading

do you know anything about their raids
in france

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 04:04 PM
Komsomol, go here http://freespace.virgin.net/pbratt.home/Westland%20Whirlwind.htm



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XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 04:11 PM
Only from what i've read from the few books on Whirlwinds that i've found. I'll post what I can tomorrow.

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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 05:07 PM
Secudus - do you know if the Westland factory is still operational ? Could be interesting to get in contact with them and see if they have an archive of Whirlwind blueprints, test data etc.

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XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Thanks, Secudus, for posting those exerpts from the book! I will try to find one - very interesting reading it is.

Bump for the great plane.

Regards!

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 06:13 PM
MadBadVlad wrote:
- Secudus - do you know if the Westland factory is
- still operational ? Could be interesting to get in
- contact with them and see if they have an archive of
- Whirlwind blueprints, test data etc.

Yes the factory is still there in Yeovil, Somerset. In fact it's about 25/30 miles away from where I live?

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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-21-2003, 06:57 PM
Might be worth a visit then ?? I was reading recently about a couple of Luftwaffe raids on the Westland factory in Dilip Sarkar's 'Battle of Britain: Last Look Back' but he never mentioned where the factory was. I wonder if there are any warbird restorers out there who would like to rebuild a Whirlwind. If Westland had decent blueprints it could be a viable project with sponsorship.

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Message Edited on 04/21/0306:59PM by MadBadVlad

XyZspineZyX
04-22-2003, 09:43 PM
Sheese, leave something for a short while and it sinks without trace.

Here's some more info on the Whirly, this time from the book Westland 50, and oh, here's a couple of screenshots, coutesy of nils78.
Enjoy.

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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-23-2003, 12:10 AM
Great dev. pics from Nils there secudus - even if we have no cockpit for a while it will be good just to see this flying as AI. C'mon NILS get that bird in the sky ASAP !!

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XyZspineZyX
04-23-2003, 12:26 AM
Perfection takes a little longer...Don't worry nils has alot to do yet, but it will be worth the wait.

As regards to the 'Rebuild a Whirlwind' I wish MBV. One step at a time, one step at a time.

Best regards.

And before anybody ask's 'Whats a Welkin' don't I've already got one crusade. LOL

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Message Edited on 04/23/0312:36AM by SECUDUS

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 09:22 PM
SECUDUS wrote:
- Sheese, leave something for a short while and it
- sinks without trace.
-
- Here's some more info on the Whirly, this time from
- the book Westland 50, and oh, here's a couple of
- screenshots, coutesy of nils78.
- Enjoy.
-
Thanks that was some great info
If you have more please
show us,


do you have any performance tests of it
or maybe Wirlie vs some other plane

Man would it be dangerous if it had got
the Merlin.

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 09:33 PM
I'll post what I got tomorrow fjuff. You read the W/S/updates today? Got some juicy info you might like.

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 09:50 PM
Yes I did
It was great

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:06 PM
Its fun to see
that there are other people who is
Having the Westland Wirlwind as their
favourite plane,

I have tried to get people interested of
it before but without succes,
And I cant understand why,
because it performance matched and was
in some cases better than
the single engine frontline fighters of that
period, when it first came,
and that should make all uberplane chasers
get their eyes on it.



I AM FROM NOW ON A

WIRLIE WHINER /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


please join me, in the fight for justise!

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:18 PM
And then there was two...or is that three MBV?

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'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:29 PM
Us Westcountry lads should stick together -
count me in!

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:36 PM
Three...

Low_Flyer, where in the Westcountry are you from? I'm in Burnham-on-sea (Brean)

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XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:46 PM
Yup - definately a convert, count me in. The Whirlwind was a real wasted opportunity and should have been in service well beyond 1943 if engine and other improvements had been implemented on time and according to the recommendations of pilots and the Air Ministry - shame on you Westland ! Should have been the best ground attack fighter of WWII.

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XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:48 PM
I'm from sunny Weymouth - if liquid sunshine counts.
A few people down here work for Westlands. Their 'copters used to keep me awake when we had a navy base at Portland.

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:52 PM
Five...

Whirlwind Whiners. The First of the Few.

LOL.

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omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
'every excess becomes a vice'

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 10:59 PM
SECUDUS wrote:
- Five...
-
- Whirlwind Whiners. The First of the Few.
-
- LOL.
-
- <center><img
- src="http://mysite.freeserve.com/Endodontics/sigs/
- VirtualWhirlwind.jpg?0.46207866543200876">
-
- omne nimium vertitur in vitium (L)
- 'every excess becomes a vice'


I'll drink to that!(clink!)

XyZspineZyX
04-25-2003, 11:54 PM
NEVER FORGET THE WESTLAND WIRLWIND

Message Edited on 05/06/0303:35PM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
05-06-2003, 04:30 PM
BUMPIT

NEVER FORGET THE WESTLAND WIRLWIND

XyZspineZyX
06-05-2003, 12:03 PM
bump

WIRLIE WHINERS
first of the few

XyZspineZyX
11-14-2003, 01:40 PM
bump



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