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JTFM
04-01-2004, 09:12 PM
Just thought I'd start this to see the various things different simmers would like to see in Pacific Fighters.

I'm hoping for "ship only" type campaigns, where you are stationed on carriers only, rather than shuttle between ground bases (which is fine, too, I'm just hoping for the option). You know, you are assigned with USS Enterprise as a dive bomber pilot, for instance, and the first campaign mission is to shuttle your SBD to Pearl Harbor on 12-7-41. From there, you fight with the Enterprise through the war until Tomi Zai puts her out of action for good.

That said, can you imagine the varied action with a Guadalcanal campaign? Oh, man, the possibilities!

And, speaking of ships earlier, I'm looking for accurate ships--not that generic stuff CFS2 handed us. Missions that start with more than one plane on deck. Enemy carriers with planes on deck--i.e., Midway. How 'bout flight decks that can be damaged by bombs (i.e. holes) and stay damaged...at least until damage control has enough time to repair? If the CAP doesn't keep the enemy divebombers away during your mission, where you going to land? Differing sea conditions would be great, too. IMO, kamikazes are a must for the later years--AI, natch, as it would make little gaming sense, otherwise.

But, whatever, I'll sure I'll be happy with it, and it'll be fun waiting for and receiving the updates as we crawl towards the release date! The little scenario at the top of the forum shows USS Lexington--even though she only lasted 5 months into the war I'll be thrilled if she is in the sim!

Just a few thoughts of many.

JTFM
04-01-2004, 09:12 PM
Just thought I'd start this to see the various things different simmers would like to see in Pacific Fighters.

I'm hoping for "ship only" type campaigns, where you are stationed on carriers only, rather than shuttle between ground bases (which is fine, too, I'm just hoping for the option). You know, you are assigned with USS Enterprise as a dive bomber pilot, for instance, and the first campaign mission is to shuttle your SBD to Pearl Harbor on 12-7-41. From there, you fight with the Enterprise through the war until Tomi Zai puts her out of action for good.

That said, can you imagine the varied action with a Guadalcanal campaign? Oh, man, the possibilities!

And, speaking of ships earlier, I'm looking for accurate ships--not that generic stuff CFS2 handed us. Missions that start with more than one plane on deck. Enemy carriers with planes on deck--i.e., Midway. How 'bout flight decks that can be damaged by bombs (i.e. holes) and stay damaged...at least until damage control has enough time to repair? If the CAP doesn't keep the enemy divebombers away during your mission, where you going to land? Differing sea conditions would be great, too. IMO, kamikazes are a must for the later years--AI, natch, as it would make little gaming sense, otherwise.

But, whatever, I'll sure I'll be happy with it, and it'll be fun waiting for and receiving the updates as we crawl towards the release date! The little scenario at the top of the forum shows USS Lexington--even though she only lasted 5 months into the war I'll be thrilled if she is in the sim!

Just a few thoughts of many.

Korolov
04-01-2004, 10:28 PM
Hell, I want classic island hopping with early P-38s. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Giganoni
04-01-2004, 10:41 PM
I want to hop in a Ki-45 Toryu (Dragon Killer) and Defend Japan at night from those evil B-29s flying low over Japan with fire bombs. Although I don't know if the game should come with such a morally questionable scenario, at least give me the Toryu! I doubt it though...

necrobaron
04-01-2004, 10:47 PM
I'd like to see little people scattering as I make a low level pass in my B-25. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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WUAF_Badsight
04-01-2004, 11:16 PM
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Korolov
04-02-2004, 02:11 PM
Badsight, we're talking about airplanes, not Buck Rogers!

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P-DEX
04-02-2004, 02:31 PM
I just want a few things...

1) Dynamic campaigns that cover the Pacific Air War from 1937-1945. That includes most mkaes of aircraft in the Chinese Air Force and Japanese Army/Navy. I don't know if Korea or French-Indo China had an air force but if they did I would like them in there as well.

2) Accurate tracking of all pilot kills of every nationality in the theatre which will transfer over from campaign to campaign.

3) Accurate representations of all fighter aces of every nationality. Even if that means writing specific AI for every ace in the theatre. I'm willing to wait for that, no matter how long it takes...but it NEEDS to be in there!

4) Flyable bombers! I would like the B-24, the Privateer, the B-29, all marks of the B-25, the B-26, all marks of B-17, plus the majority of multi-engined recon planes as well. For both Japanese and Allies. All cockpits should be 3-D and totally interactive with all guages clickable, plus the ability to customize your cockpit with photos, talismans and the like. Oh...and no time compression on bomber or recon campaigns in order to grasp the full effects of monotonous flying over Pacific bases.

5) The game should be sold in every major retail outlet (even Bed, Bath and Beyond) in order to achieve maximum exposure and should only cost $14.99 since the game is pretty much Il-2 FB with new planes.

6) The game should run on my P3-500 with 128 megs of RAM and Geforce 2 with all details set to "Gorgeous"

7) No "WHAT-IF" crap! I don't care to see any plane that never actually flew or any fantasy "1946" campaign. That would simply be asking for too much and would take away valuable time and resources from the things I have outlined above.


I feel that these few requests are not much to ask for. However, I must state that I will seriously consider not buying this sim if most or all of these requests are not met. Sorry, but I have my standards.

EbonHawk
04-02-2004, 03:28 PM
I'd like to see in game battles between ship armadas. I like the sea battles around Guadalcanal at night! And I'd like to see a flyable PBY. That would be great! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

FltLt_HardBall
04-02-2004, 03:35 PM
LOL @ P-DEX: April 1st was yesterday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oso2323
04-02-2004, 03:41 PM
The RAF and the Royal Navy!

And quite frankly a bonus map of Malta - but that's my dream.

Bomber-Burn
04-02-2004, 04:04 PM
Just Heard about Pacific Fighters - Can't wait!!!
I would like to see some missions dealing with Pearl Harbor from both sides as well as the B-17 pilot trying to fly his squad to Ford Island the morning of the attack.
Also a Doolittle Raiders Mission trying to take B-25's off of an aircraft carrier and bombing Tokyo then ditching the planes in China.

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sopwithkennel
04-02-2004, 04:06 PM
CA-Boomerang and Wirraway. I know I am sounding like a broken record about these 2 planes. Or better still, all the planes that the RAAF flew in the Pacific.

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WUAF_Badsight
04-02-2004, 04:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
Badsight, we're talking about _airplanes_, not Buck Rogers!
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BAH !

wheres your imagination man !

WUAF_Badsight
04-02-2004, 04:43 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by P-DEX:

7) No "WHAT-IF" crap! I don't care to see any plane that never actually flew or any fantasy "1946" campaign. That would simply be asking for too much and would take away valuable time and resources from the things I have outlined above.
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id like to see LESS "no sensce of fun posts

JG7_Rall
04-02-2004, 04:52 PM
What I'd like to see:

Decent sized maps (as I posted already) where we have opposing carriers on different positions in the map with islands scattered around for the Marine and Army air forces of Japan and the US. Also, missions should be integrated into DF servers instead of them being scripted. After all, in scripted servers, you can dogfight all you want, but the map should be won if either sides carriers, land bases, or a rediculous amount of other ships are lost. This would really make the bombers and fighter-bombers an effective fighting force and mean even more to the game. Also, we would be more likely to provide escorts and such. What I'm trying to get at is, is that if we do that, everything else will sort of fall into place and it will become more historical on its own. At least I hope http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Complex ships, especially aircraft carriers. I want to be able to see the cables clearly, I want them to be as huge as they really were. I would like an LSO and a well modelled "island" on the carrier itself. Also, modelled gunner/flak stations would rule. And elevators that you could use too. As its been said, it'd be cool to spawn below deck, taxi to a elevator that goes up and down when it senses a plane on it (maybe with a time delay so it wont start moving right when the front gear get on, which wouldn't be good :P). I know this isn't the most realistic setting because they were brough up without the use of the engine and by the carrier personell, but it would really, really add to the immersion of the game.

Airplanes. Airplanes, airplanes, airplanes! Like the phrase "shop till ya drop" model till ya drop!

One last thing: it would be neat if people had to aquire certain "honor points" before being allowed to spawn on a carrier deck. Sort of like America's Army. Because after all, a crazy noob on the deck could really screw things up. I don't think we'll see this implimented, but it would be cool http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I lied: one last thing. It would be cool if the game automatically limited the planes at different spawn points. What I mean is we shouldn't have a P-40 spawning on a carrier, but rather only the carrier planes. All planes should be able to spawn at land bases, but only navy planes on the carriers please!

I hope that's it!

S! thanks for your time

Hutch

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NegativeGee
04-02-2004, 04:53 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sopwithkennel:
CA-Boomerang and Wirraway. I know I am sounding like a broken record about these 2 planes. Or better still, all the planes that the RAAF flew in the Pacific.
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Ah, no worries http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Btw, did I say I'd like to see the KI-44 as a flyable?

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jensenpark
04-02-2004, 06:12 PM
It really isn't rocket science I hope...

Just put in the flyables that were there...
p38, wildcat, hellcat, corsair, buffalo, p35, the p40 variants
devastor, avenger
dauntless, helldiver
b25, b29,
On the Japanese side, same thing: put the ones that fought the most for each period of the war.
I agree witht the someone's earlier post: forget the 'what if' planes for now. Get the ones that were there first then move on to the fantasy world.
Love FB, but it is silly that we have P80 and bf109Z when we don't have the Ju 88, etc. Please no repeat of this on the Pacific front.

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Chuck_Older
04-02-2004, 06:33 PM
I'd like to see Cactus included as part of Japanese and American campaigns

I'd also like a bit more feel of continuity than we get in FB. A text message is nice for describing upcoming campaigns and summing up new ones, but footage (I don't mean game engine movies) from news reels, interviews, and live recordings mixed with still photos and some music with narration is a nice way to gain some immersion. game engine movies are nice and all, but they can't compare with actual footage of real aircraft taking off, landing, manuevering, etc. Some FB movies are great, but I want more of a sensation that I am seeing something more than footage of the game engine, if you see what I mean. Some folks go crazy for graphics and CGI, I prefer the real thing. Jane's WWII Fighters had a Good Thing with it's interviews and footage.

In fact, I might load that up just to watch some of it right now, especially the interview with Anderson http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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necrobaron
04-02-2004, 06:36 PM
Very good suggestion Chuck. FB is a little stale in that department. This is one of many things that PF could do,that would give it more life and make it more vibrant. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Oso2323
04-02-2004, 09:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jensenpark:
It really isn't rocket science I hope...

Just put in the flyables that were there...
p38, wildcat, hellcat, corsair, buffalo, p35, the p40 variants
devastor, avenger
dauntless, helldiver
b25, b29,
On the Japanese side, same thing: put the ones that fought the most for each period of the war.
I agree witht the someone's earlier post: forget the 'what if' planes for now.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And please remember that there were more air forces involved than just those of Japan and the U.S. :-) BTW, I agree with your basic point.