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RJNewly
08-04-2004, 11:21 AM

RJNewly
08-04-2004, 11:21 AM

Heavy_Weather
08-04-2004, 11:54 AM
online drama is what i've been trying to avoid for the past few months now, its much more fun playing through a LAN line, thats if you can find the machines and people to play with, loads of fun!!!!!!

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Vladimir_No2
08-04-2004, 12:19 PM
Another reason I don't play online.

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Ak9779
08-04-2004, 12:29 PM
One of the sad facts of life about online gaming: People are idiotic, obnoxious bastards.
But not everyone, thankfully. Different games have different levels of per-capita bastardry. (I like to call this the Diablo Factor)

But luckily IL2 seems to have a pretty low bastard rate, comparatively. Who knows, maybe you even ran across some halfway decent people who were just on a bad day. Then again, from the sound of it, possible not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Just keep hopping servers till you find one you like, and/or has non-idiots playing.

Later,
Ak

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XyZspineZyX
08-04-2004, 12:38 PM
Grow a skin. A thick one.

You'll encounter all kinds of people online.

Some have a devil-may-care attitude. Some may like teamwork (and disparage those who won't cooperate). Some like to talk trash. Some are silent and always let their guns do the talking.

And everybody it seems, has different "codes" of conduct. Some shoot chutes, others don't. Some will tear you off a strip for firing over their shoulders, others don't care. Some people will clear your six and get you out of a scrape, others won't.

Personally, my pet peeves are idiots who don't watch where they're going while taxiing, people who cook off rounds on the airfield (and causing a stir of anybody overhead nearby!), the aforementioned over-the-shoulder shooters.

Really, at the end of the day, though, what does it matter? Just fly and have fun. As long as you're not being profane or try to use the chat as a political (off topic) soapbox, communicate as much or as little as you like, and expect others to do the same.

By the way, those who avoid online play just because some people (like me) have a loud mouth, or like to use the chat buffer, it's your loss. You can hide behind the offline play if you want, and that can be fun, too. But your ego's just too fragile if you're afraid to come online and let it all hang out. You're missing more than half of what the sim has to offer.

BSS_CUDA
08-04-2004, 01:38 PM
was he wearing a VMF-214 tag or a BSS tag?
team kills in the BSS are unacceptable

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That was some of the best flying I've seen yet! right up to the part where you got killed.
you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman.

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gates123
08-04-2004, 01:50 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stiglr:

Grow a skin. A thick one.



Stiglr got shot down last night and what does he do? Instead of saying hey NS or good kill he blames the server for his below average flying skills when he's got a solid 80 ping.

Stiglr I'll just avoid shooting you down just to spare myself the lag you will create from the amount of excuses you type.

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RJNewly
08-04-2004, 01:53 PM
Neither, but the individual who was whining the most was VMF

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BSS_CUDA:
was he wearing a VMF-214 tag or a BSS tag?
team kills in the BSS are unacceptable

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That was some of the best flying I've seen yet! right up to the part where you got killed.
you NEVER NEVER leave your wingman.

Jester : TopGun<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BSS_Vidar
08-04-2004, 02:19 PM
This sounds kind of familuar to me. But I believe it's been takin' out of context. I was engaged on the target, and this Spit flew right into my line of fire and took some big hits. He bailed and I was still trying to shoot around the Spit into the target ahead. His plane went in and I got smacked for shootin a friendly.
I said, "That's what you get for being greedy". and "Try to be a team member and cover for a change."
When an allied plane is on a German plane, I allways fly high cover to prevent the exagerated Zoom climb capabilities of these planes. The Bogey looks up and see's me their and has nowhere to go but run horizontaly. This usually results is a team kill. Their was no anger on my part, but I can see how it could be taken as such. My appologies for the misunderstanding IF this is the incedent I think it is.

The Blacksheep in no way purposely down a team member.

S!

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Atomic_Marten
08-04-2004, 02:33 PM
Yes - It's pathetic, it's ruining the game.

That's my vote. I dunno whats the big deal anyway with this term 'killsteal'?! BTW that's one of the main reasons why I like COOPS. Deathmatchs are simply not for me - no objective=no fun -&gt;IMHO.

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bazzaah2
08-04-2004, 02:39 PM
if they whine, shoot em down till they leave the server.

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JG5_UnKle
08-04-2004, 02:45 PM
Dogfight mentality - go figure...

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Cragger
08-04-2004, 03:00 PM
1. Your poll is biased and therefore invalid, only options in your favor or netural are presented.

2. You where wrong, unless the aircraft was attacking you specifically its best to follow and protect your friendlies than to attempt to fly past or shoot past persuing friendlies. This results in either a friendly/friendly mid air collision or hits on a friendly 7 out of 10 times.

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FI-SouthPaw
08-04-2004, 03:06 PM
Everybody runs into the idiots to seem to ruin the game and complain about them to no end.

I'd like to give you a post on the people who make the game fun.

I saw one person light up a 190 in Warclouds. He broke off and was heading back to base. Another spit got on its 6 and sat there for a while. The first person asked him to break off cause the 190 was going down, and he did.

Just remember, even though there are idiots to make this game unenjoyable sometimes. There are also really nice guys out there willing to not worry about points and actually help you out.

:FI:South-Paw

609IAP_Recon
08-04-2004, 03:10 PM
I like to fly on smaller servers with people I know.

I'm not sure which is worse, cutting in front of a guy to get a kill, or the guy behind him not learning when to break off so someone with better energy can finish him off.

Teamwork - fly with squadmates on comms - takes care of all this problem http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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HART_dreyer
08-04-2004, 03:19 PM
I'm more tired of kill stealers that shoot down aircraft smoking black or on fire. Biggest a$$holes ever. The number of idiots and a$$holes in any given server is often beyond 75%, which means in all likelihood a lot of people in this thread are... yeah.

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Xnomad
08-04-2004, 03:19 PM
I can't stand it when I'm chasing a guy and 3 guys of my team are following me chasing him, then some enemy comes up and dispatches me after I've made my shot and I'm trying to get away. Why oh why didn't they go after him instead of all going for my target?

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Fehler
08-04-2004, 03:22 PM
Uber 190... ROFLMAO!

Well, maybe in my hands.. (Snickers)

The guns are great, but guess what, they were in real life too.

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LuftLuver
08-04-2004, 03:34 PM
Yes, toughen up and go online for some real fun. All the reasons listed above are precisely why I fly online. It's a hoot!

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KGr.HH-Sunburst
08-04-2004, 03:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
Uber 190... ROFLMAO!

Well, maybe in my hands.. (Snickers)

The guns are great, but guess what, they were in real life too.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL yes put the guys saying that in a 190 and me or you in a P5n00b they get PWND untill it comes out of thier @$$ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

besides the guns on a D9 are cr@p we all know those dinky toys take wayyy to many of them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif

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triggerhappyfin
08-04-2004, 04:12 PM
There´s only one proper punishment for whiners, kill stealers, team killers and score *****s:

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JG7_Rall
08-04-2004, 04:36 PM
Uber and 190 in the same post? I'm simply at a loss for words.

The simple fact is that you can always count on the greed of people in an online battle. I love flying online so I'm not bashing the DF system like some uber-coop-guru's do but this is simply how it is. This can work to your advantage or work against you. For instance, we all know that even when you attack someone, they usually DON'T break off their attack and try to get a kill before being "PWN3D" or something like that. This makes it easier for you to shoot down whoever you're chasing so in this instance it does work to your advantage.

But unfortunatly it comes full circle. You might be engaged with a bogie and right when you finish fighting him and get on his 6 (all while gloating because you pretty much won http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) Some dude comes in and blasts the hell out of the guy you're about to shoot. If this is the case I usually don't say anything because what really counts is that the bad guy is gone. We did our job, the guy is out of the sky and they're down another plane and possibly pilot. The thing that really ticks me off though is when a plane is crashing to the ground and ppl throw a 108 shell at it and get the victory. I just tell myself that I really got it and don't worry about points, but I can only take so much like everyone else. Sometimes I will say something but I try not to because it usually ends up spoiling the fun.

Just try not to let it get to you and if it does, take a break. You'll come back soon enough :P

S!

Hutch

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Ki_Rin
08-04-2004, 05:55 PM
I hate the kill-stealers, when it's blatantly obvious you need no help in downing your prey...mistakes DO happen, of course, but more often than not it seems that a lot of ppl don't have any consideration for their fellow players...

Consideration being, for one, to cover 6, and for another, one of the main rewards of flying in this sim in the first place is outflying, or outsmarting your opponent, to put yourself in a position to destroy him...its the money shot, so to speak, to see that enemy bail, cook, break a wing, blow up, or take a dirt nap...

Seems these ppl in faster, or more heavily gunned types (IMO this seems to be the case) don't care that you spent most of your ammo, or took maybe even 10 minutes (a long time in an air melee!) to best your enemy, and will rob you of that "money shot" for their own satisfaction...

Ive always held that the flight combat sim community is "classier" and of higher standards than your infantry type games, and such...guess Im wrong about that!

kill stealers rob both themselves, and everyone elses fun, really, IMO...if they could learn to share the wealth, everyone would benefit..I know when I can destroy or even scare off a potential attacker from getting a buddy, it feels just as accomplished as anything else

Of course, the other point is, when a kill stealer drops in front of your bullet stream, to get that kill, and you end up killing him, or even colliding, you end up with neg points, (if that matters to you) and sometimes even ppl will berate you for this!...like, "are you stupid,? didn't you see me in front of you?"

Easy to say, "forget about it", but when it happens over and over again, it DOES get frustrating...

I wont even get into the lack of ppl using shift F6 views, and continue on chasing a lone enemy with 2, 3, 4 or more other friendies, when near by is another friendly in dire need of assisstance (oops! I just did!), often with any easy chance for a kill...

bear in mind that I usually fly arcade servers, where its easy to have great situational awareness, and some of these issues cannot be addressed in a FR server, where things get confusing, as in real air combat...

Kill stealers should be shot and piss*d on, but not necessarily in that order...

"Consequences are for lesser beings; I am Ki-Rin...that is sanction enough"

BlackerCardinal
08-04-2004, 07:38 PM
I totally disagree with your thinking. I don't think there is any bias in the options presented. The options are 1) yes , 2) no, 3) no opinion and 4) who cares.

What the hell other answers are there?

UOTE]Originally posted by Cragger:
1. Your poll is biased and therefore invalid, only options in your favor or netural are presented.

2. You where wrong, unless the aircraft was attacking you specifically its best to follow and protect your friendlies than to attempt to fly past or shoot past persuing friendlies. This results in either a friendly/friendly mid air collision or hits on a friendly 7 out of 10 times.

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Cragger
08-04-2004, 08:49 PM
The No answer is stated in such a way to twist it in his favor by demeaning it from what it is. The complete option was.

No - I'm not , in fact I like to whine about kills

Not

No - I'm not tired of all the kill whining.

Or even better yet the completely unbiased

No

A completely unbiased and sound poll would have simply had.

Yes
No
No answer

Not answeres with definitions tacked on that skew the dissagreeing answers into something their not.

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BSS_Vidar
08-04-2004, 09:04 PM
Ooooops! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

Wudn't me after all! I just hit me in the car on the way home. My friendly fire incident happened on Greatergreen! That's why my stat shows only 1 friendly death out of 47 enemy.

BSS_Vidar

WUAF_Badsight
08-04-2004, 11:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiglr:
. But your ego's just too fragile if you're afraid to come online and let it all hang out. You're missing more than half of what the sim has to offer.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stigler has YET to take me on & show me his "skills"

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WUAF_Badsight
08-04-2004, 11:20 PM
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WUAF_Badsight
08-04-2004, 11:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RJNewly:
Neither, but the individual who was whining the most was VMF
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

its not good to come here with a gripe from a encounter in a online DF room

& its doubly not god to go naming names . . . .

but in this case , THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL HAHAHAHAHAHA

youll get used to them behaving similer & worse in the future

i guarantee

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WUAF_Co_Hero
08-05-2004, 12:50 AM
Look at it this way, if someone has the gusto to dive after your wingless / on fire / pk'd kill, and keep on shooting as they go down:

#1: they are desperate, tactless, or both. Either way, this means that they can't function as a pilot on their own, and have effectively no worth to the community, and will not likely get anywhere.

#2: They will likely die because of it. These are the kind of "Bull seeing red" idiots, that will follow a bomber w/ no pilots in a shallow dive, straight into the ocean. This means, that they are of little worth and will likely pay doubly for their act anyways, in the form fo a sever beating (because god knows they can't hold their own), or a close encounter with the dirt.

All of this translates loosely to: Let it go, it doesn't matter. You know it was your kill, that's what is important. Who is going to care tommorow morning, who had the most points on warclouds, or Birds of Prey? If they're a tactless oportunist, it will show in time, that's all that matters.

Good luck, and don't let their crude tactics get to you. Perhaps knowing that they do that becuase they HAVE to, is enough to make you just look back and laugh, as you set up for the next kill?

Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day...

Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.

WTE_Galway
08-05-2004, 01:31 AM
the online furball crowd do sound like the counterstrike kiddies sometimes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

and the way the same crowd harrass the occasional female pilot that wanders online you really have to wonder if they possibly are all under 20 yo after all

THBF109
08-05-2004, 02:08 AM
When I started this stuff I went after any enemy I could see. Then was involved in couple of friendly collisions and stopped that and started thinking.

Now when I see someone chasing an enemy I might follow them from some distance just to keep behind the enemy so he cant take a shot at me and at the same time I try to protect the team mate in question. I no longer engage the enemy unless the team mate chasing him clearly loses him, flys past him or gets otherwise into disadvantage and I feel he could use a hand. I never shoot over anybodys shoulder on purpose. I think this approach works pretty good - no longer collisions caused by me.

Example scenario: yesterday on the WC server a team mate of mine was chasing a P40 with his 109. I followed them and watched the action. It was going fine until he went a bit too fast and lost the P40 who slowed down and pulled up. 109 turned left to avoid collision and the P40 made a quick turn after him only 50m behind him. I took a fast shoot with all my guns and scored a direct hit before he finished the turn and the P40 went down. I then apologised for interfering, dont know if the 109 pilot realised what happened but didn't really care as I think the interference was ok in the situation.

I also attack all enemy ac even if damaged if they clearly still manouver agressively. Not if they are clearly done already. I always play with limited ammo so no point in wasting any.

However, many others still attack my targets, cut into my line of fire, shoot over my shoulder etc. Cant really do anything about it - if they are intelletually chanllenged its not my problem.

Matter of shooting down a team mate: IMO not acceptable in any circumstances and should lead to ban from the server. Really, points are not that important.

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Nanuk66
08-05-2004, 04:18 AM
'I'm not sure which is worse, cutting in front of a guy to get a kill, or the guy behind him not learning when to break off so someone with better energy can finish him off.'

Thats the key, and also the grey area. ive been above covering the 6 of the team mate on an nme's 6 both in the same energy states and been watching him hammer everything hes got from .50+ out and not breaking off when i could easily swoop down and get right on the nme's 6. Thats pissin annoying.

As for the Couterstrike bashing, in my many years of playing the game at all levels i cant remember once someone complaining that a team mate stole a kill. Too many people use CS as a benchmark for poor attitude of players, and while it does have alot of kids (after CS 1.5 hit the stores) and 1337t0r's playing the game it doesnt have a 'killstealing' problem. Thats a CFS problem maybe.

Halflife and Counterstrike/TFC/DoD are possibly some of THE best internet games that have ever come out imo. If your not an FPS fan than fair enough, you werent there when that whole genre took a massive leap upwards. But the constant references to poor attitudes and CS doesnt strike me as 100% viable. I see plenty of people online here playing IL2 with a 1337 internet attiude. They are in every game...including the kids. Theres always guys that are gonna think they are better than everyone else no matter what game you play.

And if you missed the Halflife online mods when they first came out then, IMO, you missed out. Remember HL came out 5-6 years ago, and its was only really after a couple of years or more (1.5 and selling to the public, rather than d/l) that all the kids and Ha&gt;&lt;0rs started to slowly ruin the game.

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Holycannoli
08-05-2004, 07:15 AM
Wow I'm happy I don't play on that server!

Killstealing? What does it matter who gets the kill, so long as the enemy is destroyed? Wonder how many WWII pilots had hissy-fits when someone else tried to shoot their target?

I play on the UK-dedicated server when I can (very popular server, hard to join). It's biggest problem is it's not cockpit only (possibly subject to change soon). BUT that's highly outweighed by the nice and courteous people that play there. I've never once heard anyone complain about a kill steal, or a kill at all. In fact what they do is congratulate each other on a nice kill or good shooting.

It's all about who you're playing with, not the settings I guess. I'll keep my cockpit off if it means I get to fly with good folk!

I was kinda looking forward to War Clouds after I get my TrackIR. Not anymore.

ASM 1
08-05-2004, 08:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:
There´s only one proper punishment for whiners, kill stealers, team killers and score *****s:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/0097.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

oooohhhh thats gotta hurt http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

Personally, I voted "change opinion when it suits" - I dont really care, whining in any way shape or form sux http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Some of the whining that goes on here is unbeleiveable.... FW190 D's guns are poo etc (yes even in this thread http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif ) I can beat you with my I16 etc... I mean gimme a break http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

to me it all sounds like the "mine's bigger than yours.... etc..." mince

To which I reply (forgive crudeness) "Doesn't matter... not much good if you have shot your load before taking your boxers off now is it? "


I mean pul-lease http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif can't we just enjoy the game as it is?

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ASM 1
08-05-2004, 08:03 AM
ah bugger
there's me just whined about the whiners lolol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

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LBR_Barkhorn
08-05-2004, 11:09 AM
Kill stealing really sux!!!

Last weekend i was playing in a well knowm server, who is hosting a 1943 khuban map. I was in the blue team, flying my FW190A5, when i encountered a La-5. It was a hard fight, but i've shoot him down. He managed to land in the sea. It'would be a kill for me, yes? Wrong!!! One of the admins of the server, i repeat, the ADMIN http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif, the same whos has banned one of my teammates for vulching, started to vulch the plane in the water!!! Vulching and team killing in one pass!!! I'know, someone will say "but it's a war, let's vulch a lot", but in the server briefing, they are saying tha vulching is not allowed, except with bombs and rockets...
In this moment, i asked him why he is doing it. His answer: "One of blue team members have stoled my kill... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif". ****!!! One of blue team pilots, not me!!!!
Avoiding any more trouble, i just changed my team, selected a Spit Mk.V, and i've shoot him down lots of times... He got pissed... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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Vortex_uk
08-05-2004, 11:21 AM
I just think its pathetic,why can't people just leave the cussing and typing it up just for the whole server to see how much of a A** you are,instead of just keeping it to your self. Even sometimes its not to do so such as you've worked hard to bring someone down and then some one just comes along pops a couple of bullets into the plane you've knocked the wing off and claims it.

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Swivet
08-05-2004, 11:58 AM
#1. War is hell! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
#2. It's just a game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif
#3. Deathmatch is Deathmatch http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/smileys-gun2.gif
#4. People just love whining and complaining, and those are the ones i shoot down. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

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WUAF_Co_Hero
08-05-2004, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NaNuK66:
'I'm not sure which is worse, cutting in front of a guy to get a kill, or the guy behind him not learning when to break off so someone with better energy can finish him off.'

Thats the key, and also the grey area. ive been above covering the 6 of the team mate on an nme's 6 both in the same energy states and been watching him hammer everything hes got from .50+ out and not breaking off when i could easily swoop down and get right on the nme's 6. Thats pissin annoying.

As for the Couterstrike bashing, in my many years of playing the game at all levels i cant remember once someone complaining that a team mate stole a kill. Too many people use CS as a benchmark for poor attitude of players, and while it does have alot of kids (after CS 1.5 hit the stores) and 1337t0r's playing the game it doesnt have a 'killstealing' problem. Thats a CFS problem maybe.

Halflife and Counterstrike/TFC/DoD are possibly some of THE best internet games that have ever come out imo. If your not an FPS fan than fair enough, you werent there when that whole genre took a massive leap upwards. But the constant references to poor attitudes and CS doesnt strike me as 100% viable. I see plenty of people online here playing IL2 with a 1337 internet attiude. They are in every game...including the kids. Theres always guys that are gonna think they are better than everyone else no matter what game you play.

And if you missed the Halflife online mods when they first came out then, IMO, you missed out. Remember HL came out 5-6 years ago, and its was only really after a couple of years or more (1.5 and selling to the public, rather than d/l) that all the kids and Ha&gt;&lt;0rs started to slowly ruin the game.

There is wank.ers in every game on the net
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I think the main difference here, is that there are respectible places in AEP, rooms if you will.. where you can expect badmouths to get the boot fast, and where teamplay, tactics, and comradry are all focused on. I have played (and still occasionally do) CS since beta6, and I will tell you now, the occurance of that in CS is maybe... .01% online. The simple fact is, and always will be... sex deprived, egotistical, rabble rousers, are the MASS majority in that game. That's the bottom line, and that's why it's used as a "benchmark", because it's a fact.

I could join random server RIGHT now, and most likely jump into a sling-fest of obscenities.

Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day...

Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.

Andrewsdad
08-05-2004, 02:40 PM
Salute, All !!!
It is quite possible that I was the 109 pilot who was engaged at the Red Base!!
I (109G2) was flying with Heinz Bar and Whiskey (190's) when we were attacked by a P51 at approx 3500 alt. Whiskey and Heinz covered me while I engaged the Mustang, but I made a bad move by diving down a little too far and got inextricably tangled up with at least five allied planes !!!

I saw that Whiskey had to bail out and Heinz was desperately trying to relocate me. Fortunately for him he was not required to get down on the deck to rescue my sorry "tail assembly".

I did manage to smoke one Spitfire in a passing turn. However the Allies triumphed in this encounter and I became a part of the landscape... It was a fun duel against so many planes. At one point I think I counted 6 !!!!
Salute Allied Air Force !!!

JG27_AD

ASM 1
08-05-2004, 02:43 PM
I'd like to point out that AD has nothing to do with me lol http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif and I am therefore not http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/351.gif

sorry its http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/353.gif but when I saw AD in here I just had to post.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

S!

Andrew

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