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3ra_DSLam
04-10-2004, 02:49 PM
Salute!
We are using BoE Ardennes online campaign in my squad. We also have AEP and we included in the BoE ardenes.db the p38J/L:

[Planes]
20 4 C_47
8 4 B_17G
50 7 P_51D20NA
30 7 P_51D5NT
50 7 P_47D27
50 7 P_38J <-- included
50 7 P_38L <-- included
8 7 BF_109G6AS
22 7 BF_109G10
35 7 BF_109G14
22 7 BF_109K4
16 7 BF_110G2
4 7 ME_210CA1
45 7 FW_190A8
12 7 FW_190A9
12 7 FW_190F8
4 4 JU_88A4
20 7 FW_190D9
6 4 JU_52_3MG4E
2 4 FI_156
4 4 ME_262A2A

We have used 50 as the % probability but We don't really know the real historical number. Anyone knows wich is it?
Do you know wich other AEP planes fought in Ardenees that we can include in .db?
Thanks!!

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3ra_DSLam
04-10-2004, 02:49 PM
Salute!
We are using BoE Ardennes online campaign in my squad. We also have AEP and we included in the BoE ardenes.db the p38J/L:

[Planes]
20 4 C_47
8 4 B_17G
50 7 P_51D20NA
30 7 P_51D5NT
50 7 P_47D27
50 7 P_38J &lt;-- included
50 7 P_38L &lt;-- included
8 7 BF_109G6AS
22 7 BF_109G10
35 7 BF_109G14
22 7 BF_109K4
16 7 BF_110G2
4 7 ME_210CA1
45 7 FW_190A8
12 7 FW_190A9
12 7 FW_190F8
4 4 JU_88A4
20 7 FW_190D9
6 4 JU_52_3MG4E
2 4 FI_156
4 4 ME_262A2A

We have used 50 as the % probability but We don't really know the real historical number. Anyone knows wich is it?
Do you know wich other AEP planes fought in Ardenees that we can include in .db?
Thanks!!

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bird_brain
04-10-2004, 02:57 PM
Almost as many P-47 D10s & D22s were there as D27s... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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3ra_DSLam
04-12-2004, 06:24 AM
Ok this is my new planeset of Normandy. The first number determines probability and the next one the role:

3 fighter/interceptor
4 attack (I think bombers only)
7 fighter/bomber/jabo

15 7 P_51C
15 7 P_51B
30 3 P_63C
20 4 C_47
10 4 B_17G
50 3 P_51D5NT
30 7 P_38J
30 7 P_38L
20 7 P_47D10
30 7 P_47D22
10 7 P_47D27
10 3 BF_109G6
25 3 BF_109G6late
8 3 BF_109G6AS
12 7 BF_110G2
4 7 ME_210CA1
22 7 FW_190A5
54 7 FW_190A8
8 7 FW_190F8
2 4 ME_262A2A
12 4 JU_88A4
6 4 JU_52_3MG4E
2 4 ME_323
2 4 FI_156

What do you think I can change to improve it?
Thx!

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Zeus-cat
04-12-2004, 06:36 AM
From what I have read, the first number is not probability, it is quantity. This would be consistent with the game as th ehost can choose which planes he wants to fly a particular mission. There is no reason to have probability.

To maintain balance, you should decrease the P-51s or P-47s or any other plane with the code 7 (fighter bomber) so that all code 7 aircraft add up to what the campaign originaly had in it.

I got this off NetWings I think
Code Role
1 Escort
2 Intercept
3 Escort + Intercept
4 Attack (strike)
5 Escort + Attack
6 Intercept + Attack
7 Escort + Intercept + Attack

Zeus-cat

PikeBishop
04-12-2004, 06:37 AM
Hi,

Could you please tell me how to add the extra aircraft to a BoE campaign when it only allows P51D's and P47's.
I want to add P38's and P51C's initially.

Regards,

SLP

3ra_DSLam
04-12-2004, 06:45 AM
Thx Zeus for the new coderoles.
The problem with fitting many planes with 7 code is that I encounter many missions with p51 as jabo and p47 as escort and I don't like. Maybe it's history but I don't really know If anyone knows pls tell me.

PikeBishop, go to NGEN directory and open the .db file you want to change. In my case it is normandy.db then there change the list of planes as we are discussing here. then generate a online camapign (I don't know how to change offline camapign so I play, even alone, in a online one).

Salute&thx!

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PikeBishop
04-12-2004, 10:34 AM
Must have done something wrong.......had to load the whole thing again.........what did you make your changes in.....I called the file up in word and when it saved it it did a text file and not a DB file which I think is wrong.
What did you call the file up in??

regards,

SLP

3ra_DSLam
04-12-2004, 12:01 PM
Use notepad and save it as a .db it's easy.

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PikeBishop
04-13-2004, 01:20 AM
I'm still having problems.
I pull up the file in notepad, make the changes. When I save it notepad wants to save it as a text ANSI type which I do. Then when I try to generate clicking 'new' nothing happens.
please help.

Many thanks,

SLP

Hunde_3.JG51
04-13-2004, 01:28 AM
P-63C was a 1945 aircraft and was not used in combat very much. But more importantly it was operated by the Soviets, not the USAAF. The A-9, as in your initial list, was there and operated in that area. The FW-190D was there also I believe but both in somewhat limited numbers compared to G-6's and A-8's. Glad you took out the K-4 and added earlier P-47 variants.

Alot depends on exactly what time of year it is as to what operated there, especially where 109's are concerned.

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tttiger
04-13-2004, 02:11 AM
Well, just a few quibbles...

There were no Me262s in Normandy.

There were JU-88s around in mid-1944 but because of the shortage of fuel, they were mostly parked. Some were used as night fighters but we don't have any Lancasters for them to shoot down.

If you're aiming for "fair play," it's generally not a bad set. But if you're going for history, you're way too heavy on German planes. Except for the LW's all out effort on Jan. 1, 1945, most 9th AF mud movers never saw a German plane.

The Allies had total air superiority before D-Day.

If you're looking for an order of battle for the Ardennes, Danny Parker's "To Win the Winter Sky" should give you units, types of aircraft and numbers. It's also a very good read.

As mentioned, the P-63 never saw combat in the USAAF.

If we ever get the Black Widow, there was one squadron in the Ardennes but it was in such bad shape from a lack of repair parts that it didn't see much action.

I disagree with one comment above from Bird-Brain. You will see very, very few pictures on razorback P-47s in pictures of the Ardennes. They were pretty well retired by that time. The P-47 was easily the most important plane in the Ardennes.

Good luck!

ttt

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T_O_A_D
04-13-2004, 02:47 AM
Do you have to have BOE to play this?

Also is there a tutural on how to make these missions?

Have you checked your Private Topics recently? (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=ugtpc&s=400102)
131st_Toad's Squad link (http://www.geocities.com/vfw_131st/)
My TrackIR fix, Read the whole thread (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?q=Y&a=tpc&s=400102&f=49310655&m=15310285&p=1)
2.11 drivers (http://home.mchsi.com/~131st-vfw/NaturalPoint_trackIR_2_11.exe)
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tttiger
04-13-2004, 02:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
Well, just a few quibbles...

There were no Me262s in Normandy. There were two Me-262 units in the Ardennes.

I assume the Ardennes means the Battle of the Bulge. If so, the bf109K-4 was certainly there. For example, III Gruppe of JG 77 flew K-4s as high cover for the G-14s of I and II Gruppe.

There were JU-88s around in mid-1944 but because of the shortage of fuel, they were mostly parked. Some were used as night fighters but we don't have any Lancasters for them to shoot down.

If you're aiming for "fair play," it's generally not a bad set. But if you're going for history, you're way too heavy on German planes. Except for the LW's all out effort on Jan. 1, 1945, most 9th AF mud movers never saw a German plane.

The Allies had total air superiority before D-Day.

If you're looking for an order of battle for the Ardennes, Danny Parker's "To Win the Winter Sky" should give you units, types of aircraft and numbers. It's also a very good read.

As mentioned, the P-63 never saw combat in the USAAF.

If we ever get the Black Widow, there was one squadron in the Ardennes but it was in such bad shape from a lack of repair parts that it didn't see much action.

I disagree with one comment above from Bird-Brain. You will see very, very few pictures on razorback P-47s in pictures of the Ardennes. They were pretty well retired by that time. The P-47 was easily the most important plane in the Ardennes.

Good luck!

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

3ra_DSLam
04-13-2004, 02:05 PM
Thx guys! Planeset is now:

15 3 P_51C
15 3 P_51B
20 4 C_47
10 4 B_17G
50 3 P_51D5NT
30 7 P_38J
10 7 P_38L
20 7 P_47D10
30 7 P_47D22
10 7 P_47D27
10 3 BF_109G6
25 3 BF_109G6late
8 3 BF_109G6AS
7 3 BF_109G10
12 6 BF_110G2
4 6 ME_210CA1
22 7 FW_190A5
54 7 FW_190A8
8 7 FW_190A9
8 4 FW_190F8
10 3 FW_190D9
12 4 JU_88A4
6 4 JU_52_3MG4E
2 4 ME_323
2 4 FI_156
12 4 JU_87D5

I've fitted 109G10 is it correct? Also shortened P38L.
About p63 I've read somewhere that flew for RAF and French and maybe it flew in Normandy but I don't know really.
thx again!

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Oscar_352nd
04-13-2004, 02:52 PM
You might want to read these:

How to build Dynamic Online Campaigns - Part 1 (http://352ndfg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127)
How to build Dynamic Online Campaigns - Part 2 (http://352ndfg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=128)
How to build Dynamic Online Campaigns - Part 3 (http://352ndfg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129)
How to build Dynamic Online Campaigns - Part 4 (http://352ndfg.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133)

More articles coming soon...........

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Hunde_3.JG51
04-13-2004, 05:02 PM
Was browsing through "JG26, Top Guns of the Luftwaffe" that I just bought and it mentioned the Ardennes and it seems that the G-10 and K-4 did indeed operate there. So yes G-10 seems correct as would K-4 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif.

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