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FAB_Devil
02-24-2004, 05:59 PM
Oleg,

A gunner of the "He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" is missing. Compare with "He-111H-6, 1941".
He-111Z Zwilling, 1942
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111Z_Zwilling_1942_01.jpg
He-111H-6, 1941
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111H-6_1941_08.jpg

See which the o propeller pass through of the wing of the B-17.
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/Propeller_Over_Wing.jpg


I think which the effect of damage of some guns on the ground are not correct.
Compare NS-37 with NS-45.
NS-37
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-37_37mm.jpg

NS-45
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-45_45mm.jpg

Compare BK3.7 with MK103 and MK108.
BK3.7
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/BK3.7_37mm.jpg

MK103
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK103_30mm.jpg

MK108
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK108_30mm.jpg


When you go make the "He-162 Salamander" flyable?

Is possible for you make some variants of the Me-262 such as the model for night missions B-1a/U1 with duplicated commands, radar and IFF, or the model B-2a with oblique cannons?

Can you add a command key to turn on/off a long smoke similar that at high altitude, but with an option to change the color of smoke? I think which this is very interesting when you want make lessons or aerobatics show!


Thanks,

FAB_Devil
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FAB_Devil
02-24-2004, 05:59 PM
Oleg,

A gunner of the "He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" is missing. Compare with "He-111H-6, 1941".
He-111Z Zwilling, 1942
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111Z_Zwilling_1942_01.jpg
He-111H-6, 1941
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111H-6_1941_08.jpg

See which the o propeller pass through of the wing of the B-17.
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/Propeller_Over_Wing.jpg


I think which the effect of damage of some guns on the ground are not correct.
Compare NS-37 with NS-45.
NS-37
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-37_37mm.jpg

NS-45
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-45_45mm.jpg

Compare BK3.7 with MK103 and MK108.
BK3.7
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/BK3.7_37mm.jpg

MK103
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK103_30mm.jpg

MK108
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK108_30mm.jpg


When you go make the "He-162 Salamander" flyable?

Is possible for you make some variants of the Me-262 such as the model for night missions B-1a/U1 with duplicated commands, radar and IFF, or the model B-2a with oblique cannons?

Can you add a command key to turn on/off a long smoke similar that at high altitude, but with an option to change the color of smoke? I think which this is very interesting when you want make lessons or aerobatics show!


Thanks,

FAB_Devil
"Traidores e covardes no sero perdoados!"
FAB Brazilian Official Team - www.brasilfab.com (http://www.brasilfab.com)

Senta a Pua!
1º/1º Grupo de Aviaço de Caça Senta a Pua!
Os Jambocks

ICQ 38792295

clint-ruin
02-24-2004, 06:07 PM
Ground effects for guns do indeed seem inconsistent, but it's what happens when they hit a target that counts.

Last I looked the T9/37mm in the P-39 just puts out a little puff of dust on the ground, but if you actually hit a target with it, we have the correct 100% HE rounds it's supposed to be modelled with on the EF.

Don't know what you are surprised at with the Ju87G1 though - as far as I know those rounds weren't supposed to explode at all?

http://home.iprimus.com.au/djgwen/fb/leninkoba.jpg

WhiskeyRiver
02-26-2004, 12:50 AM
The NS-45, NS-37, and BK 37 all used solid AP rounds which did not contain any explosive. They were designed to kill tanks and AFV's.

T9 cannon should be loaded with HE rounds. It was a low velocity weapon thus poorly suited for anti armor work

To kill me you've got to hit the heart Ramon--Clint F*cking Eastwood

Oleg_Maddox
03-09-2004, 11:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FAB_Devil:
Oleg,

A gunner of the "He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" is missing. Compare with "He-111H-6, 1941".
He-111Z Zwilling, 1942
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111Z_Zwilling_1942_01.jpg
He-111H-6, 1941
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111H-6_1941_08.jpg

See which the o propeller pass through of the wing of the B-17.
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/Propeller_Over_Wing.jpg


I think which the effect of damage of some guns on the ground are not correct.
Compare NS-37 with NS-45.
NS-37
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-37_37mm.jpg

NS-45
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-45_45mm.jpg

Compare BK3.7 with MK103 and MK108.
BK3.7
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/BK3.7_37mm.jpg

MK103
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK103_30mm.jpg

MK108
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK108_30mm.jpg


When you go make the "He-162 Salamander" flyable?

Is possible for you make some variants of the Me-262 such as the model for night missions B-1a/U1 with duplicated commands, radar and IFF, or the model B-2a with oblique cannons?

Can you add a command key to turn on/off a long smoke similar that at high altitude, but with an option to change the color of smoke? I think which this is very interesting when you want make lessons or aerobatics show!


Thanks,

FAB_Devil
"Traidores e covardes no sero perdoados!"
FAB Brazilian Official Team - http://www.brasilfab.com

Senta a Pua!
1º/1º Grupo de Aviaço de Caça Senta a Pua!
Os Jambocks

ICQ 38792295<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one bug here.
NS37 on Lagg used AP shells mostly
The stuka shelles - as well - only AP.

He-111Z - no bug. Wasn't possible to place there gunners due to some speciall reason.

Clipping of Mustang propeller. Such things possible for all planes sometime. But not alwasy. No bug here.

tolwyn.com
03-09-2004, 12:22 PM
Just wanted to step in really quick.

When Oleg says "it's not a bug" and in this particular situation, he means that it was an INTENTIONAL design decision due to some reason outside of their control or desire to spend too much time to address.

He's not saying you're not historically correct.

FAB_Devil
03-13-2004, 04:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oleg_Maddox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FAB_Devil:
Oleg,

A gunner of the "He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" is missing. Compare with "He-111H-6, 1941".
He-111Z Zwilling, 1942
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111Z_Zwilling_1942_01.jpg
He-111H-6, 1941
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/He-111H-6_1941_08.jpg

See which the o propeller pass through of the wing of the B-17.
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/Propeller_Over_Wing.jpg


I think which the effect of damage of some guns on the ground are not correct.
Compare NS-37 with NS-45.
NS-37
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-37_37mm.jpg

NS-45
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/NS-45_45mm.jpg

Compare BK3.7 with MK103 and MK108.
BK3.7
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/BK3.7_37mm.jpg

MK103
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK103_30mm.jpg

MK108
http://fabdevil.hpg.com.br/FAB/IL2FB/Bugs1/MK108_30mm.jpg


When you go make the "He-162 Salamander" flyable?

Is possible for you make some variants of the Me-262 such as the model for night missions B-1a/U1 with duplicated commands, radar and IFF, or the model B-2a with oblique cannons?

Can you add a command key to turn on/off a long smoke similar that at high altitude, but with an option to change the color of smoke? I think which this is very interesting when you want make lessons or aerobatics show!


Thanks,

FAB_Devil
"Traidores e covardes no sero perdoados!"
FAB Brazilian Official Team - http://www.brasilfab.com

Senta a Pua!
1º/1º Grupo de Aviaço de Caça Senta a Pua!
Os Jambocks

ICQ 38792295<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No one bug here.
NS37 on Lagg used AP shells mostly
The stuka shelles - as well - only AP.

He-111Z - no bug. Wasn't possible to place there gunners due to some speciall reason.

Clipping of Mustang propeller. Such things possible for all planes sometime. But not alwasy. No bug here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

About He-111Z: Lamentable!!! Before make new planes, try complete others!

[This message was edited by FAB_Devil on Sun March 14 2004 at 08:21 AM.]

Derzasi
03-13-2004, 05:48 PM
in the"He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" One gunner situated there probably could only have range to shoot The oder fuselage....don't you think???
Derzasi

Derzasi
03-13-2004, 05:48 PM
in the"He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" One gunner situated there, probably could only have range to shoot The oder fuselage....don't you think???
Derzasi

Derzasi
03-13-2004, 05:48 PM
in the"He-111Z Zwilling, 1942" One gunner situated there, probably could only have range to shoot The oder fuselage....don't you think???
Derzasi

ajafoofoo
03-13-2004, 08:58 PM
FAB completely missed Oleg's explaination.

Oleg says the real plane didn't have a gunner there.

What is so hard to understand about that?

FAB_Devil
03-14-2004, 09:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ajafoofoo:
FAB completely missed Oleg's explaination.

Oleg says the real plane didn't have a gunner there.

What is so hard to understand about that?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please!!! I am blind?! If He-111Z doesn't have that gunner, then why it is firing?! Or, if it have that gunner, then why the crew is missing?! See that images! I shall not speak more nothing!

Fennec_P
03-14-2004, 09:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> He-111Z - no bug. Wasn't possible to place there gunners due to some speciall reason.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He said that it was not possible to include the gunners in the 3D model for some special reason. The actual plane, of course, had gunners.