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LC34
05-13-2004, 06:53 PM
I just got mine yesterday, wow what a difference between this and the Logitech Wingman Force 3D!

I knew it would take some getting used to but I am having a heck of a time to tell you the truth. How long did it take for you guys to get the hang of it? I have downloaded and enabled a profile, adlabs to be exact and it is a good profile, just confusing for a new X45 user.

One more question, does everyone elses rudder rocker not like to go back to center very well? I know I will be getting some rudder pedals in a week or so, but flying now bothers me when my rudder wont recenter until I keep toying with it.

LC34
05-13-2004, 06:53 PM
I just got mine yesterday, wow what a difference between this and the Logitech Wingman Force 3D!

I knew it would take some getting used to but I am having a heck of a time to tell you the truth. How long did it take for you guys to get the hang of it? I have downloaded and enabled a profile, adlabs to be exact and it is a good profile, just confusing for a new X45 user.

One more question, does everyone elses rudder rocker not like to go back to center very well? I know I will be getting some rudder pedals in a week or so, but flying now bothers me when my rudder wont recenter until I keep toying with it.

Taylortony
05-13-2004, 07:38 PM
It is spring loaded and should center the second you let go, if the rocker isnt take it back....if it is software calibrate it

ABQc_Shark
05-13-2004, 08:13 PM
S!

Took me about a month to get back to the level of fling that I had...but it worth the time...

rcorporon
05-13-2004, 08:19 PM
I love my x45. Best stick I've ever owned.

Ronnie

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Bearcat99
05-13-2004, 08:56 PM
Try mapping that little black button to the CTRL/ALT/SHIFT keys in modes 1,2 & 3. It will expand your progammability even further. For example... if you set a button to F1 then you can get CTRL+F1,SHIFT+F-1 or ALT+F-1. I have F-1 & F-2 programmed on the hat onmy MSFFB stick so I can look at the enemy or friendly AI...or shift my view from the open to closed pit or the **** view in planes with an offset gunsight. I suggest you use the Saitek profiling software to get the most bang from the stick.

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SithSpeeder
05-13-2004, 11:32 PM
It'll take about...2 weeks. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

No, seriously. It took me about two weeks to get used to it. Another week to get used to the pedals (like you, mine came a few weeks later). I could never get used to the rocker. But it is actually quite tweakable. RTFM for the profiling software from Saitek. It really is quite good (i.e., I agree with Bearcat).

Now that I've used it for nearly a year, I honestly believe there is no finer stick (HOTAS all the way!).

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GAU-8
05-14-2004, 12:31 AM
the spring can be slightly off. just use the programming to widen the band up "just a bit" so that when the rocker is in center position, it doesnt have to be dead center... and still be center in the game...

dont worry about the time it takes, before long youll have all the switches mastered.

F19_Orheim
05-14-2004, 01:43 AM
Hi mate, I was in your "situation" 3 weeks ago when I got my X45, before that I used the same JS as you did. The first week was very frustrating, the sensation using the 45 is so much different, you will try to twist your "non twist" JS, it will feel big and clumsy, the spring will feel much too hard, and the rocker will definately feel awkward.

Don't worry though, you will start to adjust the coming week. The spring will loosen up and you will stop twisting the JS.

To be able to use the rocker effectively (I use rudder a lot in a dogfight) I reversed the throttle, thus putting MAX throttle towards me and off way from me - this is order to be able to reach the rocker in flight (you more often have throttle above 50% than below in flight). When the throttle is pushed all the way forward I found it difficult to handle.

Actually getting used to that MAX throttle is TOWARDS me took me longer than getting used to the rocker..

I am quite fond of it now, still not "there "yet though...


Good luck

PS, oh I now saw u have ordered pedals. That is a WHOLE new ballgame...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Uber_Numpty
05-14-2004, 03:10 AM
The X45 is great and I also started with Adlabs profile with it's realy handy text file to let you know how everything is mapped out and I have changed it to suit over the months. With pedals though even better could never really get the feel for the rudder rocker. The main problem I had with it though to begin with was that after take off I would forget to switch to mode 2 and when it came to line up a shot and fire nothing would happen and by the time I looked at the buttons and changed the mode the target would have flown away...

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LC34
05-15-2004, 01:32 PM
For those that use the rudder rocker on the X45, what do you have your deadband for it at? The spring returns it to center, however when I calaberated it, it still shows a slight tendancy to stay off to the side that I just used it. For example if I use right full rudder to 0, when I release the button it goes to 76 instead of 80.

Any good deadband settings for this? Otherwise I absolutly love this stick.

taisto_s
05-15-2004, 01:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LC34:
For those that use the rudder rocker on the X45, what do you have your deadband for it at? The spring returns it to center, however when I calaberated it, it still shows a slight tendancy to stay off to the side that I just used it. For example if I use right full rudder to 0, when I release the button it goes to 76 instead of 80.

Any good deadband settings for this? Otherwise I absolutly love this stick.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You really should try out CH products joysticks, They are MUCH more precise and better build!

LC34
05-15-2004, 02:59 PM
ok yeah thanks will take that into concideration when I need a new stick someday. However I just got this stick and I dont need to buy a new one.

Now about that deadband if anyone knows?

ubermoc
05-15-2004, 04:36 PM
sorry dude doesnt happen to me. toke me about 3 weeks and i was using a game pad and its a huge diff.

arjisme
05-15-2004, 07:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by taisto_s:
Any good deadband settings for this? Otherwise I absolutly love this stick.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Read the profiler software manual. There is a description on how to set the rocker to have three bands. The middle band will be your deadzone. Then you can set the left band for left rudder and the right band to right rudder. The middle should be left unassigned, making it a deadband. Then it won't matter if your rocker does not precisely center when you release it.

I don't actually use the rocker for rudder control -- I have pedals. But I know the profiling software will allow you to define bands on the rocker.