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BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 06:50 AM
Does anyone know the typical "throw" of a US warbird? I'd like to know the P40's, specificly, but any/all information is welcome.

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My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
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BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 06:50 AM
Does anyone know the typical "throw" of a US warbird? I'd like to know the P40's, specificly, but any/all information is welcome.

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 07:45 AM
Not even a wild guess?

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My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 08:19 AM
If I call it "stick deflection", would I get a response?

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My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

Zen--
06-03-2004, 08:33 AM
I'd say less than 10-12 inches total travel, based on comments by fighter pilots like "Pulling the stick to my navel, I hauled into a steep zoom"

Maybe 5-6 inches in any direction, just a guess.

-Zen-

BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 10:34 AM
Currently, I've got about 10 inches of deflection from a pivot point 8 inches below the grip.

Thats a short stick with a lot of throw, compared to the pics I've seen of cockpits, so I should probably scale the deflection down in order to get more realistic feel.

I'll shoot for 8 inches of total deflection on 10 inches of stick. That should be close enough.

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My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

BlitzPig_DDT
06-03-2004, 10:38 AM
It's what happens when you get ticked at a plastic (read - 'toy') j/s. It doesn't happen with a Cougar because, among other things, you don't want to repair a hole through (not "in", 'through') your wall. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



Zen, how short do you think these guy's legs were? 6 inches getting into the navel? That's like a jockey. lol

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Kasdeya
06-03-2004, 10:38 AM
That sounds about right. We got an Ag Cat out here by the shop (not quite a fighter plane but design with agility in mind) and its got a little more than that.

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BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 10:46 AM
Ohh, lets get technical....

Needed parameters:

Seat height.
Seat depth.
Distance from seat edge to stick center.
Stick length from pivot point to hand-grip.
Rudder spacing (inside to inside).
Rudder height from floor.
Rudder distance from seat.

I should be able to scale accurately from that, as well as guess the average pant-size of most WWII pilots http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

horseback
06-03-2004, 10:55 AM
Average height for US Army inductees in WWII was around 5 foot 8 inches. Fighter pilots were usually a bit shorter, on average. Figure an inseam of 28 inches or less. (my Dad's size; I quit borrowing his clothes when I got taller than him. He got even by stealing half my shirts when I went into boot camp).

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 11:59 AM
Ya just gotta love NACA.

Center of hand-grip, on average, is 8 inches above the seat. Maximum lateral movement of any aircrafts stick was 15 inches.

We're talking a LOT of movement!

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

BlitzPig_DDT
06-03-2004, 12:06 PM
Linkage? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Udidtoo
06-03-2004, 12:15 PM
Baldie. c'mon man. Give of some picts of this work in progress.

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I always have just enough fuel to arrive at the scene of my crash.

BaldieJr
06-03-2004, 01:00 PM
http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1936/naca-tn-550/

and

http://naca.larc.nasa.gov/reports/1937/naca-report-605/

It seems an average stick was 20 inches long. This gives an average seat height of about 12 inches.

Thoughts?

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">
My Specs (read 'em and weep):
* Automatically grinds whole beans before brewing
* Fully programmable 24 hours in advance
* Brew Pause feature lets you enjoy a cup before brewing has finished
* Automatically shuts off when brewing is complete
* Grind-off feature for brewing ground coffee
* 1-4 cup feature to accommodate coffee for one
* 10-cup double-wall insulated thermal carafe to keep your coffee hot long after brewing
* Gold tone commercial-style permanent filter eliminates the need to buy coffee filters
* Charcoal water filter removes impurities from the water
* Separate grinder chamber and filter area allow for easy cleanup
* Limited 3-year warranty
</pre>

Yellonet
06-03-2004, 01:07 PM
I just want to say I envy your specs BaldieJR... man if I had one of those.. *sigh*

gotta go brew me a cup or two... on my plain old machine...


- Yellonet