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sylentnx
05-01-2004, 02:44 PM
Will the Corsair be a flyable aircraft? If so i'll be buying this game for sure. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

sylentnx
05-01-2004, 02:44 PM
Will the Corsair be a flyable aircraft? If so i'll be buying this game for sure. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Chuck_Older
05-01-2004, 02:57 PM
Can't very well have a Pacific WWII flight sim without one of the principal US fighters...What would the Marines be flying off of land bases in the late war? Gotta have the Jolly Rogers, too. The Corsair will be in Pacific Fighters. If not, I'll give you five dollars http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Pacific Fighters without the F4U would be like not having an A6M Zero-Sen. The Corsair will be there, have no doubt

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sylentnx
05-01-2004, 03:05 PM
lol. Ok thanks man. Yep, then you have a new customer right here!

VW-IceFire
05-01-2004, 03:43 PM
Just don't expect it to turn well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its the PTO's version of the FW190. Climbs well, dives well, flies realy fast, but it turns like a beast http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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SkyChimp
05-01-2004, 03:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Just don't expect it to turn well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its the PTO's version of the FW190. Climbs well, dives well, flies realy fast, but it turns like a beast http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Strange analogy. It turned rings around the Fw-190 in tests.

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Chuck_Older
05-01-2004, 04:05 PM
Yeah, in biased testing! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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JG7_Rall
05-01-2004, 08:28 PM
Did you see the special on the corsair on the history channel? Those cockpit shots of the guy flying the plane today were awesome! I really hope they model the sound correctly, because that engine had an AMAZING sound.

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Latico
05-01-2004, 08:47 PM
The Brits also flew the Corsiat off their carriers. In fact they were first to do so, The USN didn't except them at first and the F4U saw US service with the USMC land based pilots.

After the bugs were worked out, the USn did finally start to use them.

3.JG51_BigBear
05-01-2004, 11:06 PM
Actually the Corsair was designed to turn well above 300mph. Below that speed the plane kind of turned into a handful and that's where all the horrible flat spin stories come from. The performance they got out of this plane was amazing for its size. Its friggin huge.

As far as carrier ops go, there were no real "bugs" per se. The brits just devised a way of landing in an arcing, rather than a straight, approach that allowed the pilot to see the deck and the LSO almost all the way to the deck.

stansdds
05-02-2004, 04:17 AM
Actually, the Corsair did have a few problems when it first went into Navy service. The main gear oleo struts tended to bounce the plane back into the air if the plane hit the deck too hard, this is real bad for a carrier aircraft as they tend to get put onto the deck hard most of the time.

The bounce was corrected by Chance Vought and this made the Corsair more usuable for the Navy. Also, that long nose pretty much prevented any forward view of the carrier during a traditional, long and straight final approach. The British devised a short, turning final which allowed the pilot to see the carrier during the approach. Navy pilots adopted this technique.

The Corsair was a big airplane. You just don't understand how big until you stand next to one. They are just huge! And loud! Those that exsist today are real crowd pleasers.

SkyChimp
05-02-2004, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Latico:
The Brits also flew the Corsiat off their carriers. In fact they were first to do so, The USN didn't except them at first and the F4U saw US service with the USMC land based pilots.

After the bugs were worked out, the USN did finally start to use them.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's true if you are talking about general carrier use. But the US Navy was flying nighter fighter versions off carriers operationally in mid 1943.

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Fliger747
05-03-2004, 08:23 AM
Till the Kamakaze threat came along, the F6F was a satisfactory carrier fighter nad it was not considered desireable to have more than one type of plane in the logistics train. Later of course the F4U's speed was needed for early intercept of the "devine wind".

There is two types of turn preformance, instantaneous and sustained. Instantaneous is from roll rate, the amount of turn you can generate "right now", the F4U was good at this. Sustained bears more on low wing and high power loading. The F6F and AM6 were much better at this at lower speeds.

faustnik
05-03-2004, 09:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SkyChimp:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Just don't expect it to turn well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Its the PTO's version of the FW190. Climbs well, dives well, flies realy fast, but it turns like a beast http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
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Strange analogy. It turned rings around the Fw-190 in tests.

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The F4U was a better "turner" than the 190 but, it's facing a/c more maneuverable than anything the 190 had to deal with. The same tactics that work for the 190 in FB should work for the F4U in PF. Icefire's analogy isn't a bad one.

The one advantage that I hope the 4FU has over the 190 is climb rate. 190 climb in FB is a little weak (in relative terms).

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biggs222
05-03-2004, 11:23 AM
But UN-like the 190 the foward view will be great! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Cyrano
05-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Worst case scenario, we get a Corsair that flies like a FW but with good forward visibility and .50's like in FB.
Best case scenario, we get a Corsair that flies like a FW with good forward visibilty,.50's like in FB and better turn rate.
Hmmm, if that's the case I'll take either of the two and anything in between.
Who wouldn't? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

BSS_Vidar
05-04-2004, 12:49 PM
Like 50 cal in FB??? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

I call the .50 cal in the Mustang "Paintball". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

LOL

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Cyrano
05-04-2004, 01:43 PM
Vidar,

I completely agree with you, but you misunderstood me. I said the .50's like in FB not AEP.

fordfan25
05-04-2004, 02:12 PM
the 50s now make me feel like im playing with one of those nerrf guns. you know that fire the foum balls.or mabie a water gun.lol

fordfan25
05-04-2004, 02:12 PM
the 50s now make me feel like im playing with one of those nerrf guns. you know that fire the foum balls.or mabie a water gun.lol

JG7_Rall
05-04-2004, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I'm hoping for .50's with a bit more punch too. That combined with an accuratly combined Corsair would be heaven for me. I also think the Corsair has one of the coolest pits http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif Will be awesome to look at in flight.

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The12342sainT
05-05-2004, 12:05 PM
If its not encluded, do we ALL get $5?

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jpatrick62
05-10-2004, 12:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Yeah, in biased testing!

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Its amazing that modern computer fighter pilots know so much more than the Navy test figter pilots who were there had there life on the line. Not only did the Navy choose the F4U over the Hellcat (and the FW190) in mid-war testing, so did test pilots from other countries. In the 1944 fighter evaluation held in patuxent naval air station, the F4U bested the F6F and Seafire to earn "best carrier fighter in 1944."