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dannnyjos
02-24-2004, 06:21 PM
After months of thinking about it, I finally decided to try FB online last night. My biggest worrie was lag. I hadn't tried it before because I am on 56k. I thought that you needed to have at least DSL to play on the internet. Well, after reading some posts about modem conections in the forums, and after trying to play last night, I was very pleased to know that I was wrong. I currently connect at 28Kbps, and I barely experienced lag yesterday.
Actually, it was a very enjoyable time. At first I got scared by all the stories about getting your butt kicked the first time you play online. Also, the server I was playing was full real, and I always play on medium settings offline, and w/o stalls/spins. I took off in a pony, and after 7 minutes of flying around, I noticed a small dot right in front of me. It was getting bigger by the second. A minute later I notice a plane comming almost head on. I did a split S and got behind him. It was a 109. He started moving around and twitching like a fish. Then he did some strange maneuvers that I've never seen before. He almost made me overshoot. Fortunately, I cut back on the throttle, and on the first chance I had, I opened my .50s. I was so fixed on his plane that I didn't care if I wasted all my ammo on him. I don't even know how, but I shot him down.
Minutes later I disconnected to review the track. I was so excited about that kill that I was sweating. But probably many of you would be asking how a noob could get a kill on the first night. Then, watching the track made me realize what had happened. The guy was loaded with bombs (he was on a mission may be?), and for some reason he refused to drop them when he was fighting me. After watching that, I said: "No wonder I shot him down". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Anyways, I'm very happy that I can now be part of this great sim online. Tonight I'll log on again, and this time I really expect to have my butt kicked by guys who are not carrying boms. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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dannnyjos
02-24-2004, 06:21 PM
After months of thinking about it, I finally decided to try FB online last night. My biggest worrie was lag. I hadn't tried it before because I am on 56k. I thought that you needed to have at least DSL to play on the internet. Well, after reading some posts about modem conections in the forums, and after trying to play last night, I was very pleased to know that I was wrong. I currently connect at 28Kbps, and I barely experienced lag yesterday.
Actually, it was a very enjoyable time. At first I got scared by all the stories about getting your butt kicked the first time you play online. Also, the server I was playing was full real, and I always play on medium settings offline, and w/o stalls/spins. I took off in a pony, and after 7 minutes of flying around, I noticed a small dot right in front of me. It was getting bigger by the second. A minute later I notice a plane comming almost head on. I did a split S and got behind him. It was a 109. He started moving around and twitching like a fish. Then he did some strange maneuvers that I've never seen before. He almost made me overshoot. Fortunately, I cut back on the throttle, and on the first chance I had, I opened my .50s. I was so fixed on his plane that I didn't care if I wasted all my ammo on him. I don't even know how, but I shot him down.
Minutes later I disconnected to review the track. I was so excited about that kill that I was sweating. But probably many of you would be asking how a noob could get a kill on the first night. Then, watching the track made me realize what had happened. The guy was loaded with bombs (he was on a mission may be?), and for some reason he refused to drop them when he was fighting me. After watching that, I said: "No wonder I shot him down". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Anyways, I'm very happy that I can now be part of this great sim online. Tonight I'll log on again, and this time I really expect to have my butt kicked by guys who are not carrying boms. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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VW-IceFire
02-24-2004, 06:25 PM
There is only one thing wrong with playing Forgotten Battles online. The problem is that you feel compelled to play more and more and more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Do enjoy...overall its an excellent experience!

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badaboom.1
02-24-2004, 06:42 PM
Hey dannyjos,Thanks for shareing!!,I have'nt played online yet,your story has given me courage to try!!

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dannnyjos
02-24-2004, 07:13 PM
Well, actually I was encouraged by other players who said that it was Ok to play even if you were on 56K. This is from a thread about a dialup vs. broadband argument. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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ZG77_Lignite
02-24-2004, 07:39 PM
Certainly is OK to play online with a modem/phone connection, many many people do (myself included). Glad you posted this, and glad you enjoyed yourself.

No doubt their are people out their (using modems, xDSL, Cable and Satelite) that are unable to play online, the main reason of which is packet loss; information is lost between one computer and another. This can be a problem for modem users, normally caused by lower quality telephone lines. But there is no reason not to give it a shot.

m4rin3
02-24-2004, 08:07 PM
Im glad your first encounters online are good, I just started this week and I can't stay up in the air for 2 minutes. Still trying to learn a plane =/

dannnyjos
02-24-2004, 08:18 PM
Just try to stay away from LW planes for now. La7, Yak, and P51 are probably your best bet. If you still insist on LW, then the Bf-G2 will get you out of trouble more aften than not. I'll probably fly La7 and P51 for a month. Then move to the LW and fly my beloved Dora. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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JG14_Josf
02-24-2004, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the excellent post.

It sounds like a description of Buck Fever.

I hate when that happens, and it doesn't seem to help when chanting to myself "nerves of steel, nerves of steel"

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dannnyjos
02-24-2004, 09:48 PM
What do you mean by "Buck Fever" ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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JG14_Josf
02-24-2004, 10:20 PM
Almost but not quite Buck Fever dannnyjos, you HIT the target!



Buck Fever:
The tension and excitement experienced by a fighter pilot in his first few combat missions. "Buck fever" usually leads to wild firing and missed targets. A fighter pilot no longer so afflicted is said to have conquered his buck fever.

The above is taken from the Glossary of the book titled:
Fighter Aces of the Luftwaffe (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0816857903/qid=1077686320/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-7928026-3979169?v=glance&s=books)

Buck Fever (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=Buck+Fever)

More Buck Fever (http://www.rockdove.com/bukfever.html)

ZG77_Lignite
02-24-2004, 10:50 PM
On a similar note, I still find myself getting the 'combat blindess' talked about in a number of pilot memoirs. New/inexperienced pilots would apparently be almost completely unable to locate friendly or enemy aircraft when they first entered a fight, regardless of the their proximity or obviousness. Chuck Yeager, Bud Anderson, Eric Hartmann, and Franz Stiglr all mention it I believe.

I still get this during prolonged high intensity (large) dogfights. I can recognize when it comes on, but the conctration required to shake it often does not fit well with the tension/speed/intensity of the dogfight, if I'm smart I'll attempt a withdrawal to try and get back some semblance of situational awareness.

BlackHawkLeader
02-24-2004, 10:55 PM
Yep you cannot beat Online Combat, I started out a 56K er, but had to go to cable when I started hosting Online.
Especialy when I started Mission building, since my switch to cable my lag problems ended, and I could ping players in the UK from Australia at 400 average, and 260 to 350 average in the US.
I reckon that was pretty good to be able to ping other Multiplayers like that in the Northern Hemisphere from the Southern hemisphere.
People I could not even connect to before came within easy reach Online.

56 K is good for local, out side of that you start getting lag problems and opponents need to get through too many telephone exchanges, before you get their signal, and of course anywhere along the line something could go wrong and get cut off.
We dropped players all over the place using 56k over longer distances.
I found 56 k totaly unsuitable for hosting even basic missions most of the time.

So it was out of frustration that I went to cable, no more problems since, and will never go back to phone lines again.

It really comes down to getting what you pay for, we paid for better connectivity Online and boy did we ever get it.
One of the more noticeable improovements is bieng able to down load 100mb IL-2/FB updates in the time it takes to make a cup of coffee, where as (lol) some people take up to 12 hours if their connection holds (lol)

No regrets at all, and not even one negative has come from it actualy.
Cheers

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Bull-Dog.
02-25-2004, 09:34 AM
I used to occasionally log on just to take a measure of my skill against others. I felt that off-line practice would bring me to a standard where i could enter servers without being an easy kill.
After a year of this I have to say that it was a waste of time, as the only way to become good on line is to fly on line. this I now do exclusivly.
In just a few weeks I have found that I can keep myself alive even when 2 or 3 A/C are on my 6. Unfortunatly i am having problems geting the kills after working my way into a Kill position. More practice on line is what I need.
What is really good about dog fighting on line is that when you do good, some pilots will tell you so. The first time this happened was after a long protracted fight/chase which I lost. The comments I recieved from the other pilots were worth more to me that 100 kills.
I`m also starting to get to recognise people I fly with or against, who I try to communicate with but typing and flying is another skill i have not got. But it is good to join in the chat even in a limited way. It all adds to the experience.
All in all On-line flying has brought an added dimension to this my first venture into flight simming.

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Cardinal25
02-25-2004, 09:47 AM
Wait until you guys join a squad.

Voice comms and tactics...nothing better.

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Maple_Tiger
02-25-2004, 10:05 AM
Hey dannyjos.

Thanks for flying with us last night. I know we were not using aircraft that was easy to fly, but yet you stayed with us. That says something.

Some guys actualy leave when they find out there are Just D10's Fw's and BF109's.

I noticed in the second mission or coop that you not only servived but actualy got your self a kill!

Way to go dannyjos. Hope to see you tonight.

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Zen--
02-25-2004, 10:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dannnyjos:
Just try to stay away from LW planes for now. La7, Yak, and P51 are probably your best bet. If you still insist on LW, then the Bf-G2 will get you out of trouble more aften than not. I'll probably fly La7 and P51 for a month. Then move to the LW and fly my beloved Dora. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Did someone say beloved Dora??? Welcome to the few and the proud http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Formerly TX-Zen

BluesmanSF
02-25-2004, 11:00 AM
Thanks for a great post! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There's no need to fear to play Online.. Most of the players are grown up and polite, and helping newbies. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I too experience that Buck Fewer in Online, especially when you are on someone's six.. And I have noticed that I experience the "Buck Fever" when I play guitar in a consert, every darn time! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

dannnyjos
02-25-2004, 05:56 PM
Hey Maple_Tiger:

It was actually a pleasure to fly with your group last night. I got on your server almost by mistake. When logging to HL, I saw all the DF going on to the left side. I'll be honest, I got scared. Thought it was too much for the first night. So I decided to try my luck on a Coop mission. I was really surprised how friendly people were on that server. I can only say that you were all true gentlemen,specially when I crashed while taking off on the first mission.
Surely, if you are going to be on tonight,I'll be there. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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A130
02-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Online rocks. 'Nuff said. I was in the same boat as you for a long time, dannnyjos. I was too intimidated to go online, then I finally gave Ubi a shot about a week ago. It ruled.

The last few days I've been going to HL more, as the difficulty settings are usually cranked up there. Same thing: at first I was intimidated by full difficulty. After trying it a few times, I now prefer it. In a recent coop, I managed to pick off a Stuka and a 109 and set another Stuka smoking in a clunkety I-16, simply because they were busy with other tasks and didn't notice me. The same has been done to me. (Frequently.) When I read stories of WWII air combat and pilots discussing their favorite ways to sneak up on opponents, these online battles just seem right to me.

Besides, getting 0wned occasionally can be fun in its own right. Last night some Hurris ganged up on my Stuka and whipped me good. (And I was almost home, too.) I'd like to think I made them work for it, although I don't think the eventual outcome was ever in doubt.

One final thing about online that I love: when you get all shot up and pull off a nice emergency landing, you have a crowd to watch and appreciate. (And if you blow it, as I often do, they'll usually offer up some useful pointers.)

dannnyjos
02-25-2004, 07:38 PM
True. My begginer's luck was exactly that: sneaking up on people who hadn't the slightest clue that I was there. They probably didn't know what hit them. Just like some other guy wrote on this forum, quoting a WWII pilot: I would rather be lucky than good. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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