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p1ngu666
08-21-2004, 10:37 AM
just wondering, did japan have allies apart from germany and italy?
or small groups of partizans etc

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p1ngu666
08-21-2004, 10:37 AM
just wondering, did japan have allies apart from germany and italy?
or small groups of partizans etc

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chris455
08-21-2004, 10:41 AM
I believe Thailand was a Japanese ally.

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Tater-SW-
08-21-2004, 10:47 AM
Yeah, Thailand was. Go to the royal museum in Bangkok, and all kinds of history of the kingdom is there (related to the king).

It's in thai and english until ww2, then just thai http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Then back to translations after the war, lol. (medals given to the king for being a good ally, etc, no doubt)

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Obi_Kwiet
08-21-2004, 12:22 PM
The Thai's; a real menace. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif There's all of 3 people in Thiland.

Tater-SW-
08-21-2004, 12:48 PM
Was pretty crowded the last time I was there. ;-)

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huggy87
08-21-2004, 12:52 PM
At first quite a large segment of the phillipinos welcomed the Japanese as a chance to get rid of their American overseers. Gradually though, through the course of the war, most phillipinos began to hate the japanese and welcome an american re-invasion. The Islanders developed quite a large and effective partisan movement against the Japs.

F16_Fatboy
08-21-2004, 01:38 PM
I can´t give any sources but I belive the Japaneese at that time had very few allies in the Asia-Pacific area. Prabably mostly due to their superior and cruel attitude to the people in the countries they occupied.

As for Thailand (the paradise where I intend to enjoy my otium) they where occupied by the Japanese and declared war on USA and Britain but the ambassador in Washington refused to deliver the declaration.
I belive that the Thais where a ally to Japan in the same way it is an ally to USA to day.

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Skambha
08-22-2004, 12:24 AM
Hi all,

I highly doubt that the Thai people (as distinct from a puppet government) were enthusiastic supporters of the Japanese - to this day, the Thais aren't very polite when the topic of Japan is raised: they still bear a grudge for a needless invasion and the death it caused. The generation of that time to this day refuse to use Japanese products.

The Thais of course split into two groups after the Japanese invasion - the government officially supported their invaders to avoid bombing, the rest went underground.

One of my great-uncles was a resistance leader, and was responsible for providing intelligence for US bomber strikes. I believe he made the Japanese' stay in Thailand as unpleasant as possible.

[This message was edited by Skambha on Sun August 22 2004 at 12:06 AM.]

Fehler
08-22-2004, 12:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by huggy87:
At first quite a large segment of the phillipinos welcomed the Japanese as a chance to get rid of their American overseers. Gradually though, through the course of the war, most phillipinos began to hate the japanese and welcome an american re-invasion. The Islanders developed quite a large and effective partisan movement against the Japs.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My uncle was taken prisoner during the Japanese invasion and walked the death march of Bataan. He nearly died in camp, but later escaped and fought with the Filipino resistance fighters until MacArthur returned.

I ended up getting married to a Filipina and her mother's best friend also took up arms against the Japanese after her family was murdered. (She carried a Japanese slug in her leg until her death in 1999) She even developed an odd habit of smoking cigarettes with the lit end inside her mouth. She learned to do this to hide the light of the cigarette at night while fighting in the Philippines.

The both of them had great stories to tell about their lives during that time. Both have passed away now, but are deeply missed. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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huggy87
08-22-2004, 12:27 PM
Sorry for your loss.

By all accounts the Phillipinos were excellent partisans. I have known many during my time in the Navy and they are fine sailors as well.

VF-17_Jolly
08-22-2004, 01:57 PM
I don`t think it was much of a question of allies (other than the axis) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif , A large swathe of asia fell under the Japanese Empire and had little choice ie. Korea.. IMO....

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PBNA-Boosher
08-22-2004, 02:07 PM
Germany was an ally of Japan.

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Giganoni
08-22-2004, 03:14 PM
Lets not forget Burma. Or Indonesia..one source I have read said the Japanese recruited over 353,000 men and 180 officers from South East Asia. After the war many of these trained and skilled men would help their countries maintain independence from the West when the European powers attempted to reassert their rule.

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p1ngu666
08-22-2004, 03:17 PM
nice, thanks for the replies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
some cool and sad info/stories tho...

i think burma has a oppressive government called the junta http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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BPLIzard
08-22-2004, 06:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
She even developed an odd habit of smoking cigarettes with the lit end inside her mouth. She learned to do this to hide the light of the cigarette at night while fighting in the Philippines.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, that habit was adopted by Filipino women in the olden days to prevent the ash from their cigarettes from dropping into their laundry. A lot of our grandmas smoked like that one time or another. Incidentally, I'm of Filipino origin. I, too, had an uncle who was in the Bataan Death March who managed to escape and fought on. Also several guerilla uncles.


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Jieitai_Tsunami
08-23-2004, 03:41 AM
I think Japan had allies and enemies from alot of the countries they occupied. Korea was given to Japan by the British around the time of WW1 and alot of older Koreans still can speak Japanese.

Some Chinese also helped the Japanese for financial gain.

There's also a funny story, when Sakai and his friends wanted to find some cigarettes and went to ask the native islanders at Lae to give them some. Though I guess the islanders just wanted to get on with there lives rather than helping http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

pourshot
08-23-2004, 07:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
nice, thanks for the replies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
some cool and sad info/stories tho...

i think burma has a oppressive government called the junta http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Yes I work with some guys that for many years fought against Burma's goverment forces, They are of the Karen tribes and are at the core of the resistance(that fight is still going on today).

But on to the topic I can say that the Karen did not side with the japs but I'am not sure about the rest of burma.

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owlwatcher
08-23-2004, 09:47 AM
There was achance that India might have turned Axis.

p1ngu666
08-23-2004, 01:14 PM
india was a british colney?

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Engrs
08-24-2004, 05:11 AM
The Indian National Army inspired by the goal of achieving independence for India from British rule, was raised in January 1942.

By January 1944 it comprised of 7000 men formed into three divisions. They fought in the Japanese offensives in the Arakan and the battles of Kohima and Imphal from Jan-June 1944. Only 2600 survived.

A unit of White Russians from Harbin in Manchuria was also formed for clandestine ops behind enemy lines.

At the end of the day the Japanese were not very enthusiastic about recruiting non Japanese to do the fighting. The intense martial code of the Japanese was ill-suited to other nationalities.

IV|JG51Flatspin
08-25-2004, 11:55 AM
Wasn't Manchuria an ally as well? Thought it was like Vicchy (sp?) France in that you spare your country the horror of a futile war against a far superior enemy by casting your lots in with them.

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Giganoni
08-25-2004, 01:28 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jieitai_Tsunami:
I think Japan had allies and enemies from alot of the countries they occupied. Korea was given to Japan by the British around the time of WW1 and alot of older Koreans still can speak Japanese.

Some Chinese also helped the Japanese for financial gain.

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Actually Japan truly began to rule Korea after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

Of course some Chinese helped Japan, many Chinese did. The same could be said with Koreans or Burmese like Ba Maw. Japan's propaganda slogan was "Asia for Asians". Although they ruled their colonies in typical imperialist fashion (with Taiwan benifiting the most. Or I could say suffering the least), the men they trained and equipped would go on to resist any recoloniztion efforts by the West. So in an indirect way Japan helped many Asian countries at least become self governed.

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