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SUPERAEREO
02-17-2004, 03:05 AM
OK folks, I am one of those poor souls with an old PC and a 56k modem.

I love playing online, in spite of the fact I often get framerates worth of a guncam (http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) but lately I seem to find it difficult to stay in some rooms for more than a few seconds before I get kicked out.

I have never been a cheater, nor I would dream of cheating (were would the fun be in that?), but I am sure I am not the only honest player who is suffering from the new "no tolerance" policies many hosts have introduced in the attempt of banning dishonest gamers from their servers.

Any thoughts/comments/tips?

S!

SUPERAEREO
02-17-2004, 03:05 AM
OK folks, I am one of those poor souls with an old PC and a 56k modem.

I love playing online, in spite of the fact I often get framerates worth of a guncam (http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) but lately I seem to find it difficult to stay in some rooms for more than a few seconds before I get kicked out.

I have never been a cheater, nor I would dream of cheating (were would the fun be in that?), but I am sure I am not the only honest player who is suffering from the new "no tolerance" policies many hosts have introduced in the attempt of banning dishonest gamers from their servers.

Any thoughts/comments/tips?

S!

T_O_A_D
02-17-2004, 03:36 AM
Short an upgrade on your part how about hosting one yourself and label it 56k and below Please. And limit the room to no more than 4 pilots. I usually hook up and host for 56k guys bY ip so we can have our privacy from the BB'rs I have cable but I'm hosting and it usually quite smooth. I used to do it this way when was 56k aswell and it worked fine. Just keep you missions simple and away form the cities.

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Koan___
02-17-2004, 06:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
I usually hook up and host for 56k guys bY ip so we can have our privacy from the BB'rs
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What is BB'rs?
Is it faster to use IP connection instead of Hyperlobby?
How can one get the IP of a server when in HL?

Thank you.

IAFS_Painter
02-17-2004, 06:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Koan___:
{snip}
What is BB'rs?
Is it faster to use IP connection instead of Hyperlobby?
How can one get the IP of a server when in HL?

Thank you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BroadBand?
An IP connection will mean you don't need HyperLobby, and so one fewer connection, and one less program hogging bandwidth. (HyperLobby is very polite in this respect).

When in HyperLobby, you used to be able to send your IP to another player.
I think this was stopped for security reasons (to protect us).

You can get your IP from the command line (run 'cmd', or open a DOS window).
Type ipconfig


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BM357_TinMan
02-17-2004, 08:23 AM
S~

I have to apologize to all Dial-up guys that have tried to fly on our server.

We simulate ground situations. Giving each side specific ground and air targets to destroy to win a map (scripted DF). These targets, and the airbases, are protected by AA and Flak.

We also allow for 16 players (16 because that seems to be threashold for upstream allowance on my cable connection). Unfortuneately, these variables (number of people on the server/number of ground targets/number of AA)seem to be too much for dial-up connections to handle.

I have pingkick set to 1000, and am thinking of lowering it to 800. This isn't to be snotty or mean. It is simply that it is very difficult when a plane is "slewing" all over the place because of "loss of packet" - lag. Plus, it seems that if one person is having "ping" issues, it translate to every one on the server, even if they aren't engaged with the "high pinger"

This is NOT an acusation of cheating or a snub at dial-upers. It just seems to be an unfortuneate but necessary step to allow for the level of game play that we offer on my "Blazing Magnums" server.

I just thought I'd offer this explanation so that people would understand why they may have been kicked from our server by the pingkick thing.

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SUPERAEREO
02-17-2004, 08:46 AM
Thank you for the well-meaning posting Tinman, I appreciate your words and I am sure many others do too.

What baffles me is that rooms in which I used to fly without problems with a ping of 250-300, now boot me out very quickly indeed, and i suspect that the new anti-cheat settings have a lot to do with it.

I believe that temporary "spikes" in my ping that never were not a problem now cause the kicking, and this is something I know happened to others too (so they tell me on the Italian forum).

So I wonder whether it is possible that some hosts are being too strict with their anti-cheat settings or if the only solution for us 56k'rs is to move to broadband...

S!

crazyivan1970
02-17-2004, 09:04 AM
This is a touchy subject i must say. As a host i am trying to make game playable for everyone, but there are limits. I always feel bad for guys who gets kicked out in the middle of the fight, but it`s always compromise between making everybody happy and providing smooth lag/warp/stutter free environment. I disagree with those who sets maxping to 250 (there are people like that) as much as i disagree with those who don`t even bother to set any kinds of limitations. I allow maxping of 600 ms, but everything else is rather tight. But i`v seen users from all over the world with pings above 400 ms playing for hours and not getting kicked, nor being complained about as a warpers.

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