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zugfuhrer
01-23-2004, 02:24 PM
IL2 the flying tank with wonderreargunner.
Gimme a break Oleg a IL2 dont take five hits with a ME 109 G3 30mm nosegun and still fly. The reargunner must have used the holes in the frame to shoot through becaus my engine was shoot to silence when I was at low 6 position. This is such a bad example of programming that I dont have words for it.

zugfuhrer
01-23-2004, 02:24 PM
IL2 the flying tank with wonderreargunner.
Gimme a break Oleg a IL2 dont take five hits with a ME 109 G3 30mm nosegun and still fly. The reargunner must have used the holes in the frame to shoot through becaus my engine was shoot to silence when I was at low 6 position. This is such a bad example of programming that I dont have words for it.

aerick2
01-23-2004, 02:27 PM
Go play another game and stop whining.

JG26Red
01-23-2004, 02:28 PM
lol, its made by russians, what do you expect? lol...

VW-IceFire
01-23-2004, 02:28 PM
You sure its a bad example of programming...

We've seen pictures posted of aircraft (not specifically Il-2's) that had sustained multiple 30mm hits with massive damage but each of these aircraft had been photoed after they landed at a friendly airfield...half of it is luck of the draw.

Now I'd wholeheartedly agree that some aspects of DM still need working and the FW190 needs a complex damage model on par with the rest of the flyables that we have but your example isn't really one of bad programming nor specifically of a particularly bad damage model.

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Korolov
01-23-2004, 02:30 PM
If you're trying to shoot the fuselage, big mistake. Go for the wings and watch them snap off.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

Bearcat99
01-23-2004, 02:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG26Red:
lol, its made by russians, what do you expect? lol...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You sound like an a$$.......

and Zugfuher..... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif no comment...

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Xnomad
01-23-2004, 02:38 PM
I just got off a server playing Hidden and Dangerous 2 online. I hadn't played it since it came out but there was a new patch so I thought I would try it.

Now there is a game to whine about! IL2 FB is a Ferrari compared to H&D2, that game has so much potential online but it just doesn't seem right, guns don't work realistically at all damage modeling is a joke (shoot a guy in the stomach with a rifle and he'll shoot you dead before you can rework the bolt etc.) I thank God that my favourite game (FB) is as good as it is now!

AirBot
01-23-2004, 02:49 PM
You might wanna read "Blonde Knight of Germany" and take note of how Hartmann describes his cannon shells bouncing right off an IL-2.
Now I agree the game has some deficiencies, in the field of DMs as well, but what you're doing is just trolling.

Speco
01-23-2004, 02:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG26Red:
lol, its made by russians, what do you expect? lol...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

God I hate when ppl resort to things such as this.

You should keep your prejudice to yourself!

Indianer.
01-23-2004, 03:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Speco:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG26Red:
lol, its made by russians, what do you expect? lol...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

God I hate when ppl resort to things such as this.

You should keep your prejudice to yourself!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I think u got the wrong end of the stick m8. if u want to act like one of the oppressed go visit the ADL website http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif

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SeaFireLIV
01-23-2004, 03:32 PM
I hate this `fire from the hip` posters, who without real evidence, or trying different tactics, find they can`t do what they want to do, quite the way they want to do it- they immediately jump on the forum and whine stupidly! I`m sick of these dumb accusations that have no substance.

LEARN the sim. LEARN to shoot. Dammit!

WUAF_Badsight
01-23-2004, 03:40 PM
personally i wish the IL2 was even stronger

it had a fearsome reputation for the ability to take damadge

if the IL-10 ever makes it to FB *fingers crossed* id expect it to be stronger than the IL-2

jamieandnici
01-23-2004, 03:48 PM
What exactly did the IL2 possess as far as armour and how could it still perform with with that amount of extra weight on board? does anyone have a cutaway drawing of the IL2 for analysis?

blabla0001
01-23-2004, 04:11 PM
I just did a small test myself and downed a formation of 4 IL2's without much effort in a K4.

Even the tail section breaks off after one MK108 hit, one blew up right away and the other 2 had the tail blown off and both wings shredded/blown to bits.

As for the tail gunner, either dive on them from above or park on it's six and stay below the reach of the tail gunner, close in and fire on the IL2 while you make a shallow climb.

A lot easier then shooting down a Ju88 with a Hurricane MKI.