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JG53Frankyboy
03-23-2004, 10:25 AM
and if yes, since when ?

http://p-38online.com/levier.html

JG53Frankyboy
03-23-2004, 10:25 AM
and if yes, since when ?

http://p-38online.com/levier.html

CO_Eagle_31stFG
03-23-2004, 10:57 AM
Yes,

Late in 1942 P38 Operations began. It was used as a long range escort fighter in Europe. It was highly respected by the Luftwaffe who referred to it as "The fork tail devil"

tttiger
03-23-2004, 11:03 AM
Try a Google search. Read a book. Do some research.

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

horseback
03-23-2004, 11:17 AM
Ls were definitely used by 9th AF from their introduction until war's end; the few Lightning groups active in the 8th (I believe they converted late summer '44) may not have had Ls, but it seems likely that they did.

cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

JG53Frankyboy
03-23-2004, 11:22 AM
@Eagel, i asked about the "L" version

@ttt , thx, click the link i gave , there fore the question !

@horseback , thx

bird_brain
03-23-2004, 11:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
Try a Google search. Read a book. Do some research.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very enlightening post. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Where did they get the name SPITFIRE?

CO_Eagle_31stFG
03-23-2004, 11:45 AM
My answer was in responce to the P38L

check here
http://afmuseum.com/aircraft/p38l.html

SKIDRO_79FS
03-23-2004, 01:36 PM
All I can say for sure is that the 20th. Fighter Group had at least one J Model that was retrofitted to L standards, and it was flown by their C.O. Col. Cy Wilson, but as far as the rest of the Group no, they never got the chance to fly the L in combat unless transferred to another group equipped with that model.

Lockheed made a mistake in putting almost every dive flap retrofit kit for the J Models onboard a single C-54 transport plane and, as fate would have it an ill-informed RAF pilot mistook said aircraft for a Fw-200 and sent it flaming into the Atlantic. This basically sealed the fate for the Lightning in the 8th.AF. By late July 1944 the 20th. transistioned to the P-51 Mustang. Their remaining P-38s were sent to the 9th.AF. And it stands to reason they would have also received the later L Models as well.

KIMURA
03-23-2004, 02:14 PM
The P-38L didn't reach the units in ETO, but the P-38J-25 did. Eccept of the Allison V-1710-111/113 both Lightning types were identical. The J-25 even owned the dive recovery flaps.

tttiger
03-23-2004, 08:24 PM
Okay, here's what a Google search would have found:

http://usaaf.com/9thaf/fighter/474fg.htm

The 474th FG, 9th AF, was the only fighter group in Northern Europe still flying the P-38 at the end of the war (the rest converted to P-47s and P-51s) and (surprise!!) it was flying the P-38L in 1945. The F-5F and F-5G recon planes, widely used in the ETO through the end of the war, all were converted P-38Ls as well, so maybe they count, too.

I read the link Frankyboy provided. They do conflict. I can't account for that. But the unit history is even specific as to which block of the L model was flown.

Aloha http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ttt

"I want the one that kills the best with the least amount of risk to me"

-- Chuck Yeager describing "The Best Airplane."

[This message was edited by tttiger on Tue March 23 2004 at 07:47 PM.]

[This message was edited by tttiger on Tue March 23 2004 at 08:09 PM.]

Korolov
03-23-2004, 08:45 PM
P-38Ls were used, but in very limited numbers in the ETO. The J-25s were more common, but for all intents and purposes, were the same as the L.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/newsig1.jpg

tttiger
03-23-2004, 09:07 PM
sri double post

ttt

JG53Frankyboy
03-23-2004, 09:10 PM
well
realy , they were there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif , nice, so i can use them in VOW europe missions http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.82ndfightergroup.com/82misc.htm

thx to all