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Korolov
02-26-2004, 12:56 AM

Korolov
02-26-2004, 12:56 AM

BluesmanSF
02-26-2004, 01:16 AM
Hi! I use my Microsoft Sidewinders Racing Wheel's pedals as a rudder pedals. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif They work just fine, 'cause the brake and gas pedals are quite same sized. So if you like Racing games and Flightsims, I recommend buying a racing wheel.

Cheers!

tttiger
02-26-2004, 01:57 AM
I've used pedals and I like 'em but the twiststick is just as good and a lot handier IMHO. My Cyborg 3D works great, doesn't take up much space and is cheap enough ($30) it can be replaced whenever the springs start getting spongy. They last at least a year and I think this is my third or fourth.

Oh, yeah, and I guarantee anything with wires that goes under my desk will snare the dog and get unplugged http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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lindyman
02-26-2004, 02:14 AM
There are a number of reasons why planes have pedals instead of twist sticks, and mechanics is not very high on that list. It takes a little getting used to, but it improves your precision greatly once you're there. Should you ever get the idea of learning to fly for real, you also have a head start which might save you a lesson.
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Rajvosa
02-26-2004, 02:24 AM
You don't know what you're missing until you try the pedals. Everything feels a lot more natural, trust me! I also use my steering wheel's pedals as rudders, and it works perfectly. Forget twisty sticks!


Regards,

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Arnie_OT
02-26-2004, 03:29 AM
Hmm, interesting, how do you get your pedals to work together with the stick then? I have a steering wheel with pedals and a stick. It would be nice to use the pedals for my rudder. How did you guys get it done? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Rajvosa
02-26-2004, 03:35 AM
It's very easy if you have USB joystick and wheel. If so, plug them in at the same time and calibrate. In FB, just map the rudder to you rpedals. It's very easy!


Regards,

Jasko

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steve_v
02-26-2004, 03:43 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>So, is 100+ bucks worth it for rudder pedals?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Definitely yes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
I have these. CH Pro Pedals USB


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Arnie_OT
02-26-2004, 04:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rajvosa:
It's very easy if you have USB joystick and wheel. If so, plug them in at the same time and calibrate. In FB, just map the rudder to you rpedals. It's very easy!


Regards,

Jasko
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hmm, indeed, just had to look a little further. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Thanks.

Did it and it works like a charm. Much better than the twist for sure. Using rudder with pedals makes aiming alot more accurate. Why didnt I try this before. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

ptthome
02-26-2004, 04:31 AM
You definately shouldn't get pedals.

Mine give me an unfair advantage.....

And I need every edge I can get

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Jagdgeschwader2
02-26-2004, 05:32 AM
I have flown with rudder pedals for years with MS Flight Simulator with rudder pedals and a yoke. My MS force feedback stick would not allow me to use rudder pedals so I had to do without in FB. Just recently my MS stick died and I got a CH stick and throttle which now allows me to use my rudder pedals and I agree with others it makes your ability to do aerobatics and your aim much more accurate than with a twist stick. I have three controllers all plugged into my USB ports and all three controllers work together. With CH Products you get the Control Manager program which allows you to make different profiles for your setup. Heres a review I did of my new setup.

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Nocereus
02-26-2004, 06:17 AM
Could not imagine being without my CH pro pedals. Well invested money. Guess you could use racing wheel pedals, though I have tried and thought it was quite a difference compared to real flight pedals.

"Twisted joysticks are for twisted people"

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Bull-Dog.
02-26-2004, 06:28 AM
Ive made my own by taking one of the pots out off my X45 and extending the cable to the pedals.
Its amazing what you can do with a bit of wood, glue and cable. The whole thing cost me nothing, though they have been modified a few times.
Cant imagine being without them now.

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Werre_Fsck
02-26-2004, 08:58 AM
They're definitely worth the money.
First tried twist stick, then moved to saitek (never got used to the rocker rudder), then used MS racing wheel pedals, now finally upgraded to CH Pro.
Aiming is definitely more accurate now, this is the biggest plus.
For cruise usage the racing pedals were ok, but they sucked for aiming, it was too easy to overdo slight moves and accuracy was poor.

georgeo76
02-26-2004, 09:06 AM
You wouldn't catch me fling w/o my CH USB pedals. However, @ $100+ they are a stretch on the wallet. If you've got the money to spend, I'd say get 'em. If your budget is limited, a twist stick is a good alternative.

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TgD Thunderbolt56
02-26-2004, 09:30 AM
I disagree that pedals will make you a better pilot. They won't do that any more than a $2000 set of Ping golf clubs will make you a better golfer. You still need to practice.

Will they allow you to enjoy the sim more? absolutely. The immersion is higher and that's one of the most important aspects of this sim....IMHO.

I have the CH USB Pro Pedals also, and like them very much. I agree with georgio76. They're certainly not a necessity, but if you can swing it, do it.



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Inadaze
02-26-2004, 10:28 AM
I've just bought an old Destiny Steering wheel and pedal set off Ebay for the princely sum of 4. The pedals set up in IL2 fine.

I'm used to the twist on a Microsoft Precision Pro 2, the pedals seem very alien at first, but I'm starting to get the hang of them with more practice.

Maybe see if you can find a cheap wheel and pedal set and see if you like using them as a control before you spend 100 on a set of proper flight pedals.

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LilHorse
02-26-2004, 10:38 AM
They are absolutely worth it. Help in coordinating flight and improves gunnery. Plus, I can't imagine trying to get out of a spin with a twisty stick.

Of course I didn't have quite the expense for my CH pedals. Mine are gameport as is my CH stick. They work very nicely.

XyZspineZyX
02-26-2004, 12:28 PM
Worth it? They're indispensible.

If you're using a "twisty stick" toy, stop it.

Rudder control belongs underfoot.

nickdanger3
02-26-2004, 12:44 PM
OK. I don't have pedals (yet) but for the guys saying "Just because you buy good (insert analogy) you won't neccessarily be a better (complete analogy)"

As a guitar player I'd have to strongly DISagree - For a beginner, a piece of junk guitar can hurt more than help. You get frustrated, learn bad habits, and maybe quit altogether when spending a little more $$ might keep you interested and happy.

Do you still need to practice? Sure. But lots of times, more expensive really does mean, well, better !

horseback
02-26-2004, 01:03 PM
You probably spent more on your video card and the additional RAM you needed to get FB to work on your rig; this will enhance your game experience (and success) even more.

cheers

horseback

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Redtail1
02-26-2004, 01:08 PM
gotta agree there... better skis made me a better skier. I have racing pedals and they have lottsa problems. Keep yer eye on e-bay for the real deal (CH) if you can't foot the $100.

Cheers

Redtail

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Korolov
02-26-2004, 01:12 PM
I figure what I can do is get a reasonably priced twisty stick, and save up for the rudder pedals at a later time.

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Bearcat99
02-26-2004, 02:04 PM
Absolutely.... If you are seriouys about your simming then the increased immersion factor alone makes it worth it.... but from what I hear about you you're a killer without the pedals..so maybe for our sake you shouldnt get them... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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rummyrum
02-26-2004, 04:07 PM
Problem with twist rudder is giving rudder input even when not meaning to. Just the shape and position of your hand on the stick applies rudder without you knowing it. Even the rocker on the x45 is a better alternative. Separate from the stick makes things like negative g roles easier. Also repeated twisting leads to blindness http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif .

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Sly_MaGill
02-26-2004, 05:28 PM
Hell yes. Get them, they make it so much more immersing.

Korolov
02-26-2004, 05:40 PM
Well, I guess thats it then. When I find the money, I'll go for 'em.

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