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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 05:35 AM
Can you please say whether we will have differential braking in any of the add-ons or the Battle of Britain?



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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 05:35 AM
Can you please say whether we will have differential braking in any of the add-ons or the Battle of Britain?



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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 06:05 AM
I hope so too and it will be needed if we ever get carriers, oleg said he planes to come up with a med addon after the BOB game engine is done and BOB is released.

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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 07:36 AM
I'm not sure if I really understand what you mean by "differential braking" (English is not my first language). But ... did you ever try to use the brake function in the HOTAS section in the controls menu? There you can select e. g. your mouse wheel as brake control, and IMO there is differential braking in FB already.

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Message Edited on 11/01/0308:35AM by plumps_

XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 01:39 PM
BUMP

There is NO differential braking in FB. Many player think so, because they brake and apply rudder and then they turn, but it's not the real deal. They don't turn as much and as b1tchy by far as they should when applying only left resp. right brake.

There is a P-47 video by Republic Aviation on Zeno's ( http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/main.html ). The pilot just kicks the left toe brake after landing with some 50km/h at least, and he's turning on the ground instantly like a gyro. Looks very funny, but it's real. Impossible in FB.

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11-01-2003, 01:44 PM
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OK.....


There'S NO differential braking in FB at all. Most ppl think it was, because they turn a tad sharper when adding brakes with turning on the ground. But it's not enough by far.

There's a P-47 video by Republic Aviation on Zeno's ( http://www.zenoswarbirdvideos.com/main.html ) where you can see a pilot kicking the left toe brake after he landed. It's an emergeny maneouver to stop the plane very quickly. As soon as he applied the left brake only, plus left rudder, he circled on the ground like a gyro and the heavy jug stopped immediately from at least 50km/h taxiing speed. Looks quite funny.

XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 02:28 PM
I dont know if it's differential or not...I know I can do donuts in the dirt by applying max rudder and brakes and throttling up a bit...thats good IMO. 90 degree turns..works fgor me.

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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 05:17 PM
True differential braking is when you do NOT have to use rudder for steering. I can see that it would need to be mapped for left and right, but would lend another level of immersion for those who have rudder pedals and a little more control on the ground for those who simply want it...rudder pedals or not.


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XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 05:49 PM
Thunderbolt56 wrote:
- True differential braking is when you do NOT have to
- use rudder for steering.

Don't confuse using the rudder bar to differentially apply brakes with using propwash on the rudder to turn. On the real Mig 3, for instance, braking was applied differentially depending on the position of the rudder bar (note the brake lever on the control column - no toe brakes).

My understanding is that this method of differential braking is applied to all the planes in FB. Seems to me if this were not the case, applying full brakes, full left rudder and raising throttle when stationary would result in a nose over, rather than a sharp turn, which is what happens in the game.


Anyway, I agree that I would like to be able to use two toe brakes in those planes that had them.

XyZspineZyX
11-01-2003, 08:53 PM
Just in case someone is reading this and still doesn't know what differential braking is.....you can brake each wheel seperatly on some aircraft, in fact most aircraft. You can apply more braking force to one wheel and less to the other, causing the aircraft to turn. It assists the rudder, and at slow speeds decreases the turning radius, in most cases, down to zero.

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