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Templar_4450th
07-25-2004, 03:56 PM
Was flying a P-40 against a Zeke a couple minutes ago. He breaks right hard to lose me...and succeeds. Perhaps it wouldn't have been so, if the sensor for a right roll on my Logitech stick hadn't gone out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Normally I have a three strike policy, but after trying two logitech sticks in the past few months, it really doesn't deserve a third.

The stick i'm thinking of purchasing is the CH F-16 Fighterstick. Quite a bit pricier than the Logitecs, but it's a worthwhile investment if the stick lasts a couple years instead of a couple months.

Any opinions on this stick and it's accessories (Pro Throttle lever, Pro Rudder Pedals) will be much appreciated.

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Templar_4450th
07-25-2004, 03:56 PM
Was flying a P-40 against a Zeke a couple minutes ago. He breaks right hard to lose me...and succeeds. Perhaps it wouldn't have been so, if the sensor for a right roll on my Logitech stick hadn't gone out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Normally I have a three strike policy, but after trying two logitech sticks in the past few months, it really doesn't deserve a third.

The stick i'm thinking of purchasing is the CH F-16 Fighterstick. Quite a bit pricier than the Logitecs, but it's a worthwhile investment if the stick lasts a couple years instead of a couple months.

Any opinions on this stick and it's accessories (Pro Throttle lever, Pro Rudder Pedals) will be much appreciated.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill

arcadeace
07-25-2004, 04:19 PM
My suggestion is you try eBay. I've seen a lot of CH F-16s as well as throttles and pedals. If money is a concern consider an older Thrustmaster F-16 or even better, F-22. I don't use mine but I own a F-22Pro which was built a few years ago and its like a tank. You can get these sticks with digital upgrades to run on WinXP, they're not too expensive and will last a long, long time.

jenikovtaw
07-25-2004, 08:48 PM
stop banging the stick against the side, that could help.

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Karaya_69th
07-25-2004, 09:04 PM
I have the whole CH setup, stick, throttle, and pedals. I won't ever go back to the cheap sticks like logitech, which is what I used to use and have the same probs. as you. This setup has been going 2 years strong without a problem and the programming is great.

Bearcat99
07-25-2004, 09:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Templar_4450th:
Was flying a P-40 against a Zeke a couple minutes ago. He breaks right hard to lose me...and succeeds. Perhaps it wouldn't have been so, if the sensor for a right roll on my Logitech stick hadn't gone out. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Normally I have a three strike policy, but after trying two logitech sticks in the past few months, it really doesn't deserve a third.

The stick i'm thinking of purchasing is the CH F-16 Fighterstick. Quite a bit pricier than the Logitecs, but it's a worthwhile investment if the stick lasts a couple years instead of a couple months.

Any opinions on this stick and it's accessories (Pro Throttle lever, Pro Rudder Pedals) will be much appreciated.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I cant speak personally for the CH stick and throttle.. but the Pedals are good. I use a Saitek X45... I have had it for over a year and I would buy another one in a heartbeat. It is a well made stick.

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horseback
07-25-2004, 10:21 PM
I have the whole CH setup for HOTAS, Combatstick (Cheaper and better ergonomics than the Fighterstick-fewer buttons but I couldn't reach 'em all anyway), Pro Throttle and Pro Pedals, plus the Yoke, all USB.

I love 'em. You can recalibrate at need, put all three (or four) on a single USB hub ($5 at Frys), and they've worked like champs for the last two years without a glitch on five different computers, averaging between 10-20 hours of hard use a week. My per hour cost is less than a tenth of what I would have spent on Logitech sticks over the same period, if my own experience and that reported by others on these boards is any indication.

At a minimum, you'll need the stick and pedals, because their sticks don't come with twist rudders. The Combatstick gives you 10 buttons plus an eight position POV hat, with the standard X,Y, and throttle axes. If you can come up with another $100, get the Pro Throttle too. The Software allows you to combine all three controllers into a seven axis(9, if you find a use for the ministick on the Pro Throttle), 32 button Ubercontroller.

Shop around, though. CH doesn't undercut their retailers, so purchasing from directly from them isn't the least expensive course. Their website lists a number of outfits who offer CH Products for for less than the MSRP.

cheers

horseback

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Templar_4450th
07-26-2004, 12:12 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> stop banging the stick against the side, that could help. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The last time I a roughed up a flight stick was a very long time ago when I was still a new flight simmer. The stick was one of the original MS sticks (sidewinder?), and it still lasted two some odd years even with mistreatment. Even when treated very well Logitech sticks seem to conk out rather quickly.

Personal attacks are not needed, particularly when you have no idea how I fly.

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M.R.Maiornikov
07-26-2004, 01:00 AM
I have a logitech wingman attack 2 stick and it's driving me man http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

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FI-SouthPaw
07-26-2004, 04:50 AM
I am one of those unfortunate souls who has a logitech stick. Unfortnatley I also don't have the funds right now to replace my stick.

A quick solution to solving your problems(Besides using leftover 4th of july fireworks) is to take some wd 40 and spray it on the potentometers inside the stick. I am sure this will void the warantee, and might damage your stick. But, it seems to work for me.

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