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stall84
02-13-2004, 01:19 PM
I reported earlier, that i could not see any visual damage on my aircraft from exterior view, even after taking a beating from enemy aircraft... well i could see damage inflicted by ground fire i.e. large holes. Then recently I realized it was limited to (some) but not all air-air fire that was not showing up on my aircraft i.e. bullet holes. Well, after many quick missions i THINK i know the bug/problem. 7.5mm/.30cal rounds DO NOT SHOW UP AS DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT. I flew the MIG3 against a B-17 (.50cal defense guns) and got shot up (on purpose) and all of the damage showed up.. Perfect!. However I did the same thing vs. a JU88 (7.5mm defense guns) and got shot up, yet NO BULLET HOLES SHOWED UP!.... So, in short, Their seems to be a bug with smaller than .50cal bullets from rendering bullet holes on aircraft from exterior view. This is an important issue to me, I happen to enjoy landing my plane after taking alot of damage in air, and looking over where i got shot up... And, since many aircraft in IL2 use the 7.5mm (.30cal) machine gun for armament, this issue needs to be resolved.

stall84
02-13-2004, 01:19 PM
I reported earlier, that i could not see any visual damage on my aircraft from exterior view, even after taking a beating from enemy aircraft... well i could see damage inflicted by ground fire i.e. large holes. Then recently I realized it was limited to (some) but not all air-air fire that was not showing up on my aircraft i.e. bullet holes. Well, after many quick missions i THINK i know the bug/problem. 7.5mm/.30cal rounds DO NOT SHOW UP AS DAMAGE TO AIRCRAFT. I flew the MIG3 against a B-17 (.50cal defense guns) and got shot up (on purpose) and all of the damage showed up.. Perfect!. However I did the same thing vs. a JU88 (7.5mm defense guns) and got shot up, yet NO BULLET HOLES SHOWED UP!.... So, in short, Their seems to be a bug with smaller than .50cal bullets from rendering bullet holes on aircraft from exterior view. This is an important issue to me, I happen to enjoy landing my plane after taking alot of damage in air, and looking over where i got shot up... And, since many aircraft in IL2 use the 7.5mm (.30cal) machine gun for armament, this issue needs to be resolved.

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02-13-2004, 01:46 PM
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VW-IceFire
02-13-2004, 01:59 PM
I don't know...the Ju-88 machine gunners seem to put lots of holes in my P-51D.

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blabla0001
02-13-2004, 02:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I don't know...the Ju-88 machine gunners seem to put lots of holes in my P-51D.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Same for me, actually they show up on every plane without a problem.

stall84
02-13-2004, 03:52 PM
well then i must have a problem with texture rendering or detail, or size, how would i go about changing the settings, (ini file maybe) to get more detail on smaller objects like bullet holes?, Ive got a pretty good system P4 (3.0) 1.5GB, 128MB nvidia5200fx. What could i possibly be lacking?

blabla0001
02-13-2004, 04:18 PM
I have no idea stall, I never had this problem myself, nor did any of my friends who play IL2.

Pzyber
02-13-2004, 04:21 PM
I think i have the same problem as you stall84.
Sometimes when i got hit it shows up as huge holes and the aircraft becomes very instable and impossible to fly.

Last time it happened for me is 2 hours ago, i had 2 fighters in my tail, 1 La-7 and 1 P-51.
(on a map without AA)

Extreme_One
02-14-2004, 05:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pzyber:
I think i have the same problem as you stall84.
Sometimes when i got hit it shows up as huge holes and the aircraft becomes very instable and impossible to fly.

Last time it happened for me is 2 hours ago, i had 2 fighters in my tail, 1 La-7 and 1 P-51.
(on a map without AA)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And this is wrong HOW exactly?
Surely if you were hit you'd expect to find holes in the aircraft and a drop in performance?

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02-15-2004, 06:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Pzyber:
I think i have the same problem as you stall84.
Sometimes when i got hit it shows up as huge holes and the aircraft becomes very instable and impossible to fly.

Last time it happened for me is 2 hours ago, i had 2 fighters in my tail, 1 La-7 and 1 P-51.
(on a map without AA)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Chuck_Older
02-15-2004, 07:52 AM
I think he means that sometimes he gets the big holes and bad things happen, and sometimes he doesn't get holes and the same bad things happen anyway, and the last time he didn't get holes but still had damage was two hours ago.

Looks to me like maybe he editted his own message and now it's a hard read.

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Neo-X-
02-15-2004, 01:31 PM
Ive got a pretty good system P4 (3.0) 1.5GB, 128MB nvidia5200fx. What could i possibly be lacking?[/QUOTE]

Sorry don't take it personal.. I don't think thats a nice system with that fx5200 in it. Wouldn't it be better to have just 1024MB RAM and a better graphic card..
Back to the topic: Thats not a bug. You won't see every bullet hole in your plane. It's just programmed like this. Btw thats not a problem for me.

WUAF_Badsight
02-16-2004, 01:04 AM
EASY ANSWER

THE VISIBLE DAMADGE MODEL IS NOT LINKED TO THE ACTUAL HITS RECIEVED

to view the actual strikes your plane has taken plz put ARCADE mode on & fly in the QMB or in a single player mission

this is the result : ........

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