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Breeze147
07-27-2004, 07:01 AM
2nd mission since 2.04. 3 Sturmos on a mission to attack a train. 6 Lagg3 escorts. I'm #2. #1 flies over the target. Makes all of the correct moves to get into attack position and then keeps right on flying. I went in and got 1 railroad car. Meanwhile 1 is flying back to the return flight path and yelling at me to join up. #3 is flying around in circles at the 1 minute to go waypoint. The area is rich in Targets Of Opportunity, so I go on and knock out 1 AAA, 3 cars and a tank. I pull up and head for where the Laggs, all 6, cannot handle 2 109s. I make a pass through the furball and make a solid hit on the right wing of one of the 109s, but he doesn't go down. They both start chasing me and the Laggs escape. We all start for home with both 109s chasing me. They stay on my butt and chew up a good portion of my right wing but I keep going. All the while I keep pounding Tab 7 and get answers that 1 and 2 are engaging, but nothing happens. I catch up to my flight with the 109s still in tow. Still no actions from my Zveno. Finally, the Jerrys peel off and leave. I land and check out my right wing. Full of holes, tip is gone, huge piece of metal sticking straight up in the air.


Is this an aberration, or has the AI been made to be passive?

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.jpg

Breeze147
07-27-2004, 07:01 AM
2nd mission since 2.04. 3 Sturmos on a mission to attack a train. 6 Lagg3 escorts. I'm #2. #1 flies over the target. Makes all of the correct moves to get into attack position and then keeps right on flying. I went in and got 1 railroad car. Meanwhile 1 is flying back to the return flight path and yelling at me to join up. #3 is flying around in circles at the 1 minute to go waypoint. The area is rich in Targets Of Opportunity, so I go on and knock out 1 AAA, 3 cars and a tank. I pull up and head for where the Laggs, all 6, cannot handle 2 109s. I make a pass through the furball and make a solid hit on the right wing of one of the 109s, but he doesn't go down. They both start chasing me and the Laggs escape. We all start for home with both 109s chasing me. They stay on my butt and chew up a good portion of my right wing but I keep going. All the while I keep pounding Tab 7 and get answers that 1 and 2 are engaging, but nothing happens. I catch up to my flight with the 109s still in tow. Still no actions from my Zveno. Finally, the Jerrys peel off and leave. I land and check out my right wing. Full of holes, tip is gone, huge piece of metal sticking straight up in the air.


Is this an aberration, or has the AI been made to be passive?

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.jpg

Capt._Tenneal
07-27-2004, 08:31 AM
Breeze147, this sort of thing happened to me, in a way, too. (ver 2.04)

In my case, it was the # 1 plane not even arriving AT the target. Say, for instance, waypoint # 4 is the one entering the target area, # 5 is the target itself, and # 6 is the egress waypoint. In one mission my leader (# 1 plane) just went from point 4 to point 6 and from there on the return leg. I was like "WTF ? Did he just bug out on us ?!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

DD_NL
07-27-2004, 08:59 AM
Could it be that your wingmen ran out of ammo? If they did it would be useless for them to re-engage the 109's.

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Breeze147
07-27-2004, 12:06 PM
I thought that the Laggs might have run out of ammo but my guys never fired a shot.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/air_power/ap16.jpg