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T_O_A_D
06-04-2004, 02:40 AM
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06-04-2004, 02:40 AM
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06-04-2004, 04:48 AM
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06-04-2004, 05:00 AM
That's a nice story, dude. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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06-04-2004, 05:13 AM
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Breeze147
06-04-2004, 06:03 AM
Great story. It's hard to believe all of the WWII vets are in their 80's now.

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Metallicaner
06-04-2004, 06:47 AM
"The tank commander -" a WOMAN?? Now that's very special for WWII to be, especially in the former Sovjet Union, isn't it?

AdmiralWarlord
06-04-2004, 08:16 AM
Not special at all - in the Soviet union there were female tank commanders, snipers, there were 3 female-only fighter/bomber squadrons and so on and so on. Under communism - females and males have exactly the same rights.

BlitzPig_Ritter
06-04-2004, 08:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Breeze147:
Great story. It's hard to believe all of the WWII vets are in their 80's now.
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And those are the younger ones. Some are now in their 90's as well.

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T_O_A_D
06-04-2004, 08:41 AM
Yeh cool video too. It was odd to hear about the woman coammander but I knew about them. There must of been alot more than you would think though. Whats the odds of a fellow going through all that and land a woman to boot. hehehe

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LEXX_Luthor
06-04-2004, 08:50 AM
Women flak and anti~tank gun crews too.

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Udidtoo
06-04-2004, 09:00 AM
With the number of losses they were suffering its not hard to see why they had so many active women fighting.

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DDad
06-04-2004, 09:13 AM
Not unheard of- Down at Jefferson City we have a gentleman who was:
Drafted by the Polish Army, 1938
Captured by the Germans, 1939 - sent over to the Russian occupied zone. Was a Russian Prisoner till Barbarossa.
Served with the Russians till captured again by the Germans in 42
German POW till 44, then conscripted in the German Army
Captured by the US Army, January, 1945
Served in the US Army as a interpeter 1945-1948, after which time he emigrated to the US

I know it sounds a bit far fetched, but he has the paperwork to back it all up. Quite the interesting guy

AirBot
06-04-2004, 12:39 PM
Nice, but I already beat you to it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Rola.
06-04-2004, 01:45 PM
One soldier? Big deal!
Surprisingly noone remembers American fighter squadron strafing Soviet cavalry, long time before Sturmoviks appeared on the skies...

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T_O_A_D
06-04-2004, 02:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DDad:
Down at Jefferson City we have a gentleman who <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jefferson City? What state. Missouri maybe??

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Chuck_Older
06-04-2004, 03:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AdmiralWarlord:
Not special at all - in the Soviet union there were female tank commanders, snipers, there were 3 female-only fighter/bomber squadrons and so on and so on. Under communism - females and males have exactly the same rights.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I think you're a little fuzzy on what constitutes a Right and who gets them. Actually, you might be fuzzy on what Communism is, too. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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tttiger
06-04-2004, 06:29 PM
Great tale!

Thanks, Toad.

Exactly 10 years ago this coming winter, I went with my uncle to a reunion of his WWII unit, the 406th Fighter Group, which is credited with saving the 101st Airborne at Bastogne.

Here were all these old geezers who had been some of the hottest Jug pilots in the 9th Air Force, many were retired USAF colonels, and getting a group of them organized just to go to a restaurant for dinner was like herding cats.

But, as my uncle pointed out to me, even though many were feeble, "They know what they did."

Now, a decade later, most, including my uncle, are dead.

I envied them and still do. For those of us who served in Vietnam (and who are now around 60), we will never know what we were doing there. I wish our duty could have been as clear to us as it was to them.

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Chuck_Older
06-04-2004, 07:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:

I envied them and still do. For those of us who served in Vietnam (and who are now around 60), we will never know what we were doing there. I wish our duty could have been as clear to us as it was to them.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You may never know the reason why you were there, but the duty was the same, and you performed it.

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AdmiralWarlord
06-04-2004, 07:44 PM
I was born in the USSR, I have read the Communist Manifesto and participated in communist gatherings - does that qualify me as knowing what communism is ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Please compare any charts that shows female/male equality between US and USSR and you will see that women in Russia enjoyed far better positions than their counterparts in the US. That includes - more female doctors, government directors, female police, members of the Politburo and first woman in space. It is actually interesting that since the collapse of the USSR women here have lost a LOT of positions (including my mother and grandmothers). But I guess I will have to live with the evils of capitalism http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (I am joking of course, I would much rather have a capitalist system than what we had previously).

Chuck_Older
06-04-2004, 07:50 PM
I'm not sure, because it seems to me you are confusing Socialism and Communism in this case.


I don't want to get into a political discussion, I was just pointing out that in your post, it seems to say that because of Communism, people had certain Rights they otherwise wouldn't, which is rather odd to my way of thinking.


~edit-

I should also point out that the difference may well be how Socialism and Communism are taught in a non-Communistic society, versus how they are described in a Communistic one.

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BuzzU
06-04-2004, 08:15 PM
Cool story.

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