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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:55 PM
I guess he's focussed on other "more important" issues now !!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 07:55 PM
I guess he's focussed on other "more important" issues now !!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 08:14 AM
like..........lunch?

The_Blue_Devil
07-15-2003, 08:19 AM
I want updates too...but ..... ah forget it I've lost my will to take either side on this issue.

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Zayets
07-15-2003, 08:40 AM
do not worry guyz , I feel that the patch will be here this week/beginning of the next week. But is just a feeling /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 09:17 AM
The last one was after my girlfriend and i's 2 year anniversary!! C'mon Oleg a month, i know you need a break, but that's what minions and "co-workers" are for...please...
Ohh yes im 17 and quite proud of the 2 year thing

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 09:26 AM
Yeah.....Riiiiight!, Beginning of the next year perhaps?

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 11:09 AM
h009291 wrote:
- I guess he's focussed on other "more important"
- issues now !!!

reath in, breath out, relax.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 11:22 AM
Hmm, history repeats itself..


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Cpt.LoneRanger
07-15-2003, 11:50 AM
Yeppo, Blue Devil.

I agree a 100 %.

I really want that patch, but... you can't do anything, anyway, so this is really getting pointless.


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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 11:53 AM
ditto.



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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:14 PM
What the?! Olegg gave us an update just recently! Dammit! Have some appreciation and patience!

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:46 PM
Roger

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:50 PM
I think people are getting really too impatient on the patch...Be thankfull there will be a patch whenerver it comes!

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:52 PM
Well I sure hope with all their programming pro-expertise and mathematical genius, that the AI planes can land in a pattern w/o all crashing into each other, CFS2 and FS2002 have been doing it fine for years. Have shelved it till I can do single player missions w/o losing half my planes to landing attrition.

And jeepers is there a post asking for something to work right that you super noobz who live here cant flame? Get a life we want the patch to make this overpriced expansion work correctly, try playing 6 campaigns in single player and youll understand.






Message Edited on 07/15/0306:55AM by Crazed-One

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 01:07 PM
I have come to realize that there are more important things in life than waiting for the first patch to IL2:Forgotten battles. However, since I am so bored due to a lack of interest in flying FB in its current state, i thought I would write something here, on this forum.

The original IL2 was very good, and for the first time in years, had me flying a WW2 Sim again. I eagerly awaited the arrival of Forgotten Battles(hereafter known as just FB), and purchased said title the day it arrived at my local EB. My initial impressions were less than positive, although not altogether negative.

The AI seemed at times much better and at times much worse. After playing through seven missions in the 109F2 campaign in Northern Russia, i realized that while the AI was better than that of IL2, the new environment and random missions of the campaign were ill suited for it. Also, the new campaign seems rather devoid of life, having short - often one sentence - debriefings and briefings. The missions lack variation and due to limitations of the AI, lack realistic resolutions.

The incredible accuaracy of the AI in head on passes, certain varieties of AA, AAA, and ship gunners is also a hindrance to smooth offline and online play. This, combined with several flight models that are obviously "off"(not just my opinion, oleg has commented on at least 5 planes that need some tweaking), and you have a lackluster online and offline experience.

Now, i hope that you anti-Patch whiners can at least see where we (the Patch whiners) are coming from at the very least. Not only do I not fully enjoy this game, but the reasons for this are actual problems with game, and not necessarily just my opinons. Genuine "bugs" if you will. The P-40 explosion bug for example, or the incredible stupidity of Ai at times. Now, I have heard Oleg state several times "the limits of technology". However, if it's broke - fix it.

All of this would mean that we (again, the Patch Whiners) are eagerly awaiting the release of this upcoming patch because we want to enjoy this game, but are having trouble doing so in its current condition. Thank You, S~



Message Edited on 07/15/0309:41AM by US_8th_Dosiere

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 01:18 PM
Actually what he said is what I meant http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I too bought FB the first day it came out, played IL-2 also, didnt enjoy CFS3 at all and I like FB, but its as he said there is some necessary AI improvements to make single player more enjoyable and even MP AI. I found that early on I liked to post on technical aspects of aircraft and thoughts of improvements ect.. then it just turned to ego's and flames. Have not touched FB for months, since SWG beta 3, and now eagerly waiting for a necessary AI patch. Anything more will be appreciated.

OK, found that Oleg posted this on 7/9/03

"News:

We are working on the final version of the patch now. Probably will finish on this week and will begin to test then on the next week.

I hope that soon it will be released.

Right now we also works over free add-on with the planes that will comes some later after the patch.
Probably one of the planes there will be flyable P-51D.

Thats all for today.
Screens shots on friday."


So I guess a little more browsing contained the answer.



Message Edited on 07/15/0307:28AM by Crazed-One

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 02:28 PM
Sure there will be plenty of heated threads once it's released. So, save your energy.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 05:32 PM
ONly yoda knows when the patch wil come out

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 05:38 PM
SeaFireLIV wrote:
- What the?! Olegg gave us an update just recently!
- Dammit! Have some appreciation and patience!

1. Let's see ... I bought the game in April ? May? ... can't remember .. I think that's "patience" enough /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

2. I paid money for this damn thing so I will whine / cry / moan and fricken groan as much as I damn well please !!!

Thank You /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 06:25 PM
i agree with him above me, i wouldnt buy a faulty washing machine and expect to wait so long till they fixed it....

Bottom line i do think its discraceful that we are being kept in the dark and most threads on the issue seem to get locked out,

I do see that they need to get it right before they ship it, but to let it drag on and on with days slipping into months is just pure tardiness, if they dont think it will meet a forcasted date then that date should not be released. but hey to have a pop at Ubi in here over it, well they are in the same boat as not being the people that developed the game, simply the distributors.


One more item i would like to mention, all this "this planes flight characteristics are wrong etc, I will ask you one question...........HOW DO YOU KNOW? Have you flown a Brewster, done Aeros in a Stuka..... of course you haven't, the answer is NO.in fact have you flown anything?

NO one has for the last 40 years flown a Brewster and as flight characteristics then was not an exact science especially for something that hasn't graced the air for over 40 years, its a case of they have it as correct as possible on the information available, A famous pilot that flew the 747 some years back through the volcanic ash and had 5 flame outs was quoted as saying" that is when i learnt the 747 simulator lies.........99% of the people that come in here moaning over these issues im afraid the closest they have ever got to flying a real aircraft is sitting in cattle class at the back of Mr Boeings pressurised tube 300 self loading cargos up, going to some grotty holiday resort, whilst trying to work out the intricacies of operating the seat back.

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 06:40 PM
"NO one has for the last 40 years flown a Brewster"


That's an evidence, but there also guys with just enough aeronautical knowledge to see if a thing is plausible or not.

And in a few days, you will see the obvious differences between a good but unfinished game and a wonderful and realistic perfect sim /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Cheers,

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 07:35 PM
Define aeronautical Knowledge.

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 07:59 PM
An observation:-

Many people have complained about the AI, the FM, the campaign difficulty, balance, etc etc...

Many people have also disagreed about just what changes are required to each of those areas...

It follows, I think, that *whatever* Oleg does in the patch, some people will be happier, some will still be disappointed, and indeed some who were happy will be less so.

I won't even mention what will happen about trim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There is only one thing the patch is definitely not going to fix - the disagreements here about whether X should be Y, or A should be B. We might see a few reversals, but the essential disagreements will remain.

That's a good thing, innit? It seems to me that a considerable number of forum posters will be unhappy if anything else results. After all, if it were all spot on, what would there be to debate?

Sometimes I suspect Oleg agrees with the old adage: You can't please any of the people, any of the time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Paul

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 09:32 PM
I Concour, I have nearly 30 years behind me in the aeronautical industry from flight testing through to rebuilding, but to say that some people have some knowledge..... well to bring it into perspective, they are trying to raise funds to bring a vulcan back to life in the uk to display it, and one of the major contributers believe it or not i am lead to believe is NASA, the reason...well although this awe inspiring bomber was state of the art in the 50's it was designed on a slide rule...remember them? and as such there is no large delta in existance today that they can learn from, so they want too now with the technology available to test it inflight with the aid of computer technology to record all the parameters, similar Boeing paid for the Russian tu 144? Concordski to be test flown to provide data for their now abandoned i believe super cruiser..............

now they are 50 and 60's technology and are being used to learn flight characteristics from, so to model a Brewster off the top of your head, even from the written word is open to interpretation, one mans Skoda is another mans Rolls Royce

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 10:14 PM
Taylortony wrote:
- ...well although this awe
- inspiring bomber was state of the art in the 50's it
- was designed on a slide rule...remember them?

Wow ... nice to know some people still remember those /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

They were still around when I was in Grade ... err .... 8?

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 10:17 PM
I'm starting to feel that The Patch is something like the McLaren MP4/18. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 10:34 PM
cueceleches wrote:
- I think people are getting really too impatient on
- the patch...Be thankfull there will be a patch
- whenerver it comes!

While risking to become public enemy no1, I hope there will not be any pach for the next 3 weeks, cuz I'm going on hollyday to our beloved Black Sea, and would be a great horror for me to miss the release moment..../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-16-2003, 12:14 AM
As Ronald Regan stated "there you go again". /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I think most of you guys will be happier people in about 7-10 days. Then again some of you won't. Oh well, I'm pretty happy right now and patiently await the official release of the patch. See ya /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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07-16-2003, 01:41 AM
Must have Bf-110!

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