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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 07:53 PM
The one view I'd really like to see added to Il-2/FB would be one where you are on the ground and stick your head out of the cockpit to check the airstrip in front of you.

You could model it like the landing gear, try to do it when you're going too fast and POW...dead pilot!

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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 07:53 PM
The one view I'd really like to see added to Il-2/FB would be one where you are on the ground and stick your head out of the cockpit to check the airstrip in front of you.

You could model it like the landing gear, try to do it when you're going too fast and POW...dead pilot!

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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 08:03 PM
good idea!

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XyZspineZyX
06-16-2003, 08:37 PM
Amen, Cossack!

They have it in WarBirds (and probably other sims) and it is extremely useful.

Flying the Rata, it was common practice to open one of the two small doors so the pilot could lean out even further to asee around that huge cowling while landing.

It wiuld be a major plus.

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XyZspineZyX
06-17-2003, 12:36 AM
I saw an I-16 fly once at "Wings over Houston". The pilot did not lean out to one side to see the runway while landing. But he also failed to land on the massive runway that was designed for jumbo jets/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif . Seriously, he really missed the runway. Fortunatly both the pilot and the I-16 survived without a scratch

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XyZspineZyX
06-17-2003, 09:24 AM
cockpits that open and pilot head lean left and right are definatly needed

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XyZspineZyX
06-17-2003, 01:04 PM
If you could have a lean-out-the-side-of-the-canopy-view for an instant to check line up on runway prior to take off--then it might make for a smoother/straighter takeoff roll at times. It would help compensate for not having ground crew simulated to conduct ground control.

To prevent use of such a feature as a cheat in flight, one would need to have some sort of check on the following conditions [simplified from what would be required in the computer code, I am sure]:

if (landing-gear-position == down
AND landing-gear-status == locked
AND XY-plane-velocity <= 20.0
AND Z-axis-velocity <= 0.1)
then allow-pilot-temp-extended-view == TRUE;

Once this view is engaged, it would be assumed that the canopy was open, and the pilot would be a little more vulnerable to enemy strafing attacks--after using the view, a countdown timer would simulate the seconds it takes to close the cockpit (and snug up the pilot seat harness system, perhaps). In other words, there can be consequences to using this feature for the pilot.

Of course, later, someone would figure out a way to put this view on a slider; then, there would be calls from the community to remove this special view feature from the sim to prevent exploits...so maybe we should not ask for it in the first place. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

While I do occasionally roll onto the grass off the taxiways and runways using cockpit view only, I have gotten pretty good at negotiating the fields using the side view--so, such a feature addition is not a necessity for me.

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XyZspineZyX
06-17-2003, 02:25 PM
How about a view that works as external from behind until the tail wheel rises or 100 kph speed is reached then goes internal? Or perhaps with this view, any flight within 50m above ground and external from behind is used? Of course, this would have to not work if external views are disabled so no extra toggle, just a view that already uses what is in the sim with an not existing trigger.


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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 01:35 AM
Thanks Tony!

I just hope Oleg notices this one.

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XyZspineZyX
06-18-2003, 09:52 PM
Maj_Death wrote:
- I saw an I-16 fly once at "Wings over Houston". The
- pilot did not lean out to one side to see the runway
- while landing. But he also failed to land on the
- massive runway that was designed for jumbo jets/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif . Seriously, he really missed
- the runway. Fortunatly both the pilot and the I-16
- survived without a scratch


Check me out when I tried to land the TB3 during winter.

http://elj.dyndns.dk/il2/easytomissthelandingstripduringwinter2.avi

Needless to say i thought I was perfectly lined up, Just not on the runway.

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XyZspineZyX
06-19-2003, 03:45 PM
I'm all for that view Willey! I don't know why they haven't though of modeling it before.

Hey, Fromsweden, great movie /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Curious though, In IL-2 (original) I don't think those towers were modeled for damage. Guess they fixed that. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
06-19-2003, 03:48 PM
Bumpage.

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XyZspineZyX
06-19-2003, 03:56 PM
awsome post! but lets keep it selectable via button, shall we?

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XyZspineZyX
06-19-2003, 11:53 PM
How bout Shift-Hat left or right?

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XyZspineZyX
06-20-2003, 01:45 AM
i like the ideahttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

however i reckon that as the airspeed increases further, the harder it would be stick your head out to the point whee you couldnt, if you could then you die from broken neck or you get pinned in against edge or something

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06-20-2003, 04:22 PM
Deserves a bump!

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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 01:27 PM
I personally don't have any issues on taxi or landing. On taxi I just throttle up with the brakes on and give a boot full of right rudder - I can then see ahead.

However I think the idea is good, and does not break any realism "rules" /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Being able to open the canopy, and then lean out would be cool /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Hell, I would like it if we could run up to our aircraft and taxi onto the runway before take-off - very immersive for me!

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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 01:36 PM
Yes Yes I agree fully I would like that ability too. Here is a thread that it was discussed a bit overe awhile back to.


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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 05:06 AM
What about a dropping bomb view, where you can watch your bombs drop and hit the target?

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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 05:26 AM
Actually, the bomb dropping view would be good, even if it were only available while viewing tracks.

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