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Kondor99
05-24-2004, 07:26 PM
Sorry, but I'm just so excited...

I was returning my defective Saitek Cyborg Force (great stick when it works, BTW) at my local Circuit City, and Lo and Behold, they had one brand new MSFFB2 stick stuck behind the other more recent models.

I snapped that baby up for $75 and never looked back.

Man, it's good to get lucky sometimes! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Hey, anybody wanna buy my Saitek X45 setup?

Kondor99
05-24-2004, 07:26 PM
Sorry, but I'm just so excited...

I was returning my defective Saitek Cyborg Force (great stick when it works, BTW) at my local Circuit City, and Lo and Behold, they had one brand new MSFFB2 stick stuck behind the other more recent models.

I snapped that baby up for $75 and never looked back.

Man, it's good to get lucky sometimes! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Hey, anybody wanna buy my Saitek X45 setup?

Kondor99
05-24-2004, 07:33 PM
God. Just looked on Ebay. I could get close to $200 for this thing. These are the times that test mens' souls! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jenikovtaw
05-24-2004, 07:47 PM
200? why, its a pretty good stick, but 200?

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Kondor99
05-24-2004, 08:11 PM
Wow...just finished a mission with this thing.

It really is like night and day. I will NEVER part with this thing!

I think the thing that's really great about FFB sticks in general is their method of centering which is
A) Adjustable
B) Linear
C) Frictionless.

I really hated the "spring and friction disc" on my X45. This is so much smoother and more accurate.

lil_labbit
05-24-2004, 08:43 PM
You should have pulled that spring at the bottom of the x45 stick together some and lubricate the bottom plate with some natural (not mineral) oil or wax, but hey FFB is a plus...

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Zatorski
05-24-2004, 08:44 PM
I went through a lot of sticks before the MSFFB stick. It's been great, real quality feel to it. The forces are as strong as when I bought it.

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Bearcat99
05-24-2004, 08:47 PM
Kondor... if you have a X45 and a MSFFB stick keep the X45. You have the best of both worlds. A HOTAS and FFB. The MSFFB stick is great. I have a 3yr old one that I gave to my son that still works great... the one I am using now was my spare... I have a spare in the closet. It is a great stick. I use both sticks with pedals and I have to say.. you think itwas fun with FFB? Try FFB with a throttle on the other hand and every command of you aircraft at your fingertips.

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USE THAT X45 STICK AS A BUTTON BAY!

altstiff
05-24-2004, 08:55 PM
Yup, I took Bearcats advice and use both. I love the hotas and the FFB stick.

Desktop gets a little crowded but it is the only way.

(I have a Ferrari FF wheel and Acts labs shifter for sim racing too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif )

See you in the fence....

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MSFF2 & X45 throttle

tascaso
05-25-2004, 12:20 AM
Yes...I finally got a new FFB2 on Ebay...I am now looking for a second one! I just love the feel will never use another stick. I do think I will add CH Pedals to this. I also use Track IR2 excellent and really adds to the immersion.

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ASM 1
05-25-2004, 02:43 AM
Just got a second FFB2 in "nearly new" condiution off ebay for a "reasonable price" here in the UK. "Reasonable" being more than I paid for my new one, but less than the "Microsoft new" price... if that makes any sense.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif Anyway, they are great sticks... why MS chose to discontinue their whole Stick range is beyond me http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/crazy.gif that along with their keyboards and mice is one of the few things they got right IMHO.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

My only wish is that I'd gotten one earlier... when I got FB when it came out last year, I bought a Sidewinder Precision 2 because it was a good price - Again, great stick, but with no FFB I felt I was missing out, so I 'upgraded' in July last year and never looked back - the Precision 2 has just gone to my nephew after some hard use and is still going strong. I now have two FFB2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Yay! the first one is connected to my PC as we speak, and my backup is hiding under my bed upstairs...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Must say I am impressed - don't think the guy who had it used it much as the buttons are all really tight and it has a 'new' feel to it. Not tested it yet... must rectify that at some point, bit busy at the moment.

Great Sticks! Hopefully with the X52 being announced, the X45's will come down in price so I can grab one for a cheap HOTAS setup! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Andrew

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SeaFireLIV
05-25-2004, 03:28 AM
Funny, I just recently grabbed a FFII stick last Friday (in Game in England)which I spotted sitting and gathering dust in the back of the store. I snapped that up fast too. I agree, great stick, smooth responsive, simple.

I found the forces difficult at first, the shakes actually put off my accuracy but now really love that feed back. I do find actual take off and landing a little dicey though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You really do get that feel of controlling and flying an object rather than pointing an image around on the screen.

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Bearcat99
05-25-2004, 04:54 AM
I have the gun forces turned off on my stick... If you turn off FFB in FB then all you will get is the flight FFB. I now use TIR2 as well and I have the Pedlals.. the HOTAS with FFB just makes it like.... YEEAAAHHH baby!!!

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USE THAT X45 STICK AS A BUTTON BAY!

Ketalar
05-25-2004, 05:02 AM
SeaFireLIV:
I have two suggestions for you if you're having problems with the forces being too hard.

I downloaded someones modified forces off the net (I think the guy called himself Blade), and also put someone elses modified effect for bombdrop in (to get around the bug where you'd get the bombdrop effect for every keypress after the first drop). Flying is much easier now, and most of all the ground bumps and "turbulence" are simulated better. If you don't find the files drop me a PM and I'll pack mine up and send them to you. (I'll try to check my mail more often than I have recently...)

Another hint that I actually used prior to getting the new FFB-effects is to simply release your pinkie at T/O or landing. The MS FFB2 stick has a small sensor near the base on the front of the handle. This acts as an energy saver which disables all forces when it isn't covered, so if you hold your stick near the top you won't get any forces at all.