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73GIAP_Milan
02-22-2004, 11:42 AM
I read alot around here about Newview and TrackIR and stuff...
Now i'm wondering, is there also such a program for IL2 Sturmovik? - a pair of 3d goggles like that TrackIR is WAY to expensive for me, so i want to setup my hatswitch as a free panview..
Snap irritates me and makes flying bad when you need to HOLD the switch in position, and the default hatswitch pan of IL2 is WAY too slow..

anyone got some advice for me?

and NO i'm not going to fly using the mouse in my righthand and stick in my left..i have a righthanded stick..and cannot fly with left http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

regards,

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
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73GIAP_Milan
02-22-2004, 11:42 AM
I read alot around here about Newview and TrackIR and stuff...
Now i'm wondering, is there also such a program for IL2 Sturmovik? - a pair of 3d goggles like that TrackIR is WAY to expensive for me, so i want to setup my hatswitch as a free panview..
Snap irritates me and makes flying bad when you need to HOLD the switch in position, and the default hatswitch pan of IL2 is WAY too slow..

anyone got some advice for me?

and NO i'm not going to fly using the mouse in my righthand and stick in my left..i have a righthanded stick..and cannot fly with left http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

regards,

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
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Sky Knights Squadron Leader

horseback
02-22-2004, 12:10 PM
With TrackIR you could set up a 'profile' for Il-2 Sturmovik, and I always used my headphone mike boom to hold the reflector-no goggles required.

As for snap views, since I use a HOTAS setup (CH, but any throttle/stick combo with extra hats and buttons will work), I made a point of assigning certain key views to buttons on my throttle. Look Up Forward Right & Left, Look Up Back Right & Left are absolutely must haves in a DF, and if you assign them on your throttle buttons, it's not going to interfere with your stick movement.

Also, since the POV hat on my Combatstick is a lttle far for my thumb, I assigned the POV to the throttle hat, and use the stick hat for rudder and elevator trim. If you have that option, that's the way to go in Il-2.

Hope this helped.

Cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

ptthome
02-23-2004, 05:17 AM
try www.mousvision.com (http://www.mousvision.com)

the product is cam2pan

if you don't have a cam already buy on for about $10

Total budget $20

It works

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Extreme_One
02-23-2004, 06:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Der_Tote_Baron:
... a pair of 3d goggles like that TrackIR is WAY to expensive for me, anyone got some advice for me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

TrackIR is NOT a set of 3D goggles...

It's a device that sits on top of your monitor (or wherever you like) that sends a beam of Infra Red towards your face and a reflective dot on your forehead (or on a mike-boom) or on your TrackHat (a cap with a reflective strip on the brim) is 'tracked' to generate the pilot's head movement.

It's about 95 (GBP) for TrackIR2 - not a lot of money - I don't think anyone that's shelled out has been at all dissapointed.

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73GIAP_Milan
02-23-2004, 08:03 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>TrackIR is NOT a set of 3D goggles...

It's a device that sits on top of your monitor (or wherever you like) that sends a beam of Infra Red towards your face and a reflective dot on your forehead (or on a mike-boom) or on your TrackHat (a cap with a reflective strip on the brim) is 'tracked' to generate the pilot's head movement.

It's about 95 (GBP) for TrackIR2 - not a lot of money - I don't think anyone that's shelled out has been at all dissapointed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

allright, agreed, but i'm a normal student with NOT too much money to spend...my study is already slamming big holes into my budget..and my need for a digital camera too (need 1 for my study)... So..i just wanted to point out that such systems are WAY above my league.. :S


I went looking on...i found CAM2PAN, downed the trialversion and found it NOT WORKING...i looked a bit further and found FREELOOK (www.freelok.org (http://www.freelook.org)) and that one worked..IN WINDOWS ONLY though...

IL2 seems to overwrite the programs settings...
Does anyone know howto setup Freelook properly??

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
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tagTaken2
02-24-2004, 11:48 PM
Would love to hear about this if someone has make it work (won't be home for a week)... same $ situation.

uberweng
02-25-2004, 01:19 AM
Sounds like you should try newview. It is an excellent program and the way it maps mouselook to the joystick hatswitch is superb. It makes flying and dogfighting much easier. I wasnt aware that this program didnt work with the original il2. One guy on this forum who has a strange picture of an animated mouse (sorry its so vague) knows alot about newview and has written some excellent posts on how to set it up. Maybe you could start another thread about if its possible to use newview in il2, as it is a good alternative to trackir and adds a lot to the game. (i just got trackir2 but when i get time i will experiment with using them together as they both have their own advantages and could complement each other well

Uberweng

JG52_wunsch
02-25-2004, 01:23 PM
hi
yeah try newview,it great and easy.cheers

73GIAP_Milan
02-25-2004, 04:29 PM
Well, i've looked at Newview and to me it seems that it ONLY works with IL2/FB and I fly IL2 Sturmovik ONLY....

i have'nt downloaded it yet...

by the way? is JETSTREAM100 that guy who knows all about it?? if he does, PLEASE help...

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
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ucanfly
02-25-2004, 04:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Der_Tote_Baron:
I read alot around here about Newview and TrackIR and stuff...
Now i'm wondering, is there also such a program for IL2 Sturmovik? - a pair of 3d goggles like that TrackIR is WAY to expensive for me, so i want to setup my hatswitch as a free panview..
Snap irritates me and makes flying bad when you need to HOLD the switch in position, and the default hatswitch pan of IL2 is WAY too slow..

anyone got some advice for me?

and NO i'm not going to fly using the mouse in my righthand and stick in my left..i have a righthanded stick..and cannot fly with left http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

regards,

Der Tote Baron a.k.a. SK_Black_Knight....
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Sky Knights Squadron Leader<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse , but if you use your left hand for the mouse it works the best (i.e. use your right hand for the stick), and the only thing you have to reprogram is your brain and reflexes and it is free.

It transforms all flight sims that have mouselook capability for free.

tagTaken2
02-25-2004, 05:42 PM
*resuscitation* attempt on dead horse...
Recently picked up a Thrustmaster Top Gun Afterburner II, and flying with two hands has made an incredible difference to my game. In a fraction of a second I can fire three weapons, pull full right rudder, chop the throttle, drop flaps (and gear) and yank the stick back into my stomach to avoid a collision. Finally can understand why the highest scoring aces said the closer the better. Have even changed my convergence from 250 to 100 (for fighters http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif), and only fly against "ace" AI now, whereas before I could barely cope with average...
Umm. The point was, using the mouse would be going backward. But I'm sure it works for some.
TrackIR is the logical next step, but eager to try some of the cheaper alternatives.

FlyingNutcase
02-25-2004, 06:41 PM
Hi Baron,

TrackIR2 is the best thing since sliced bread. Being able to keep track of your opponent during a dogfight makes ALL the difference. Your dogfighting ability will sky-rocket.

Also scanning for the 'baddies' is made much easier.

And the 'immersion' factor increases substantially.

My skeptical friends (who said I was crazy for buying it) now want one themselves.

The proof is in the pudding!

I would hate to have to fly FB without one. Heck, I probably wouldn't!

Save the money and buy it, knowing it's a real doozy.

Nutcase.