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T_O_A_D
05-26-2004, 02:59 PM
I've always known of these and have seen breif parts of these. Films but now It is on my to do list for sure. Obviously they will be one sided for sure. But I with an open mind and realizing they are from a different time I'm sure they will be quite interesting look back to then.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/516/516479p1.html

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T_O_A_D
05-26-2004, 02:59 PM
I've always known of these and have seen breif parts of these. Films but now It is on my to do list for sure. Obviously they will be one sided for sure. But I with an open mind and realizing they are from a different time I'm sure they will be quite interesting look back to then.
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/516/516479p1.html

To avoid some of the Stuff that has and might get out of hand in here I have edited this first Post to link you to where you can buy them. Click Here! (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000BWVAH/qid=1085736188/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2757179-3765625?v=glance&s=dvd)

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lil_labbit
05-26-2004, 04:44 PM
Great find http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif thanks.

You can also find some WWII movies (propaganda etc) at the Internet Archive - Like "Duck and Cover" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://www.archive.org/movies/movies.php

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SUPERAEREO
05-26-2004, 05:29 PM
I remember seeing a training USAAF cartoon on airport camouflage which was excellent.
I always think that those vintage cartoons convey a sense of the time they were made in.

S!

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mllaneza
05-26-2004, 09:03 PM
I have a few of the wartime cartoons downloaded from p2p. They're as good as the others, but of course have that propaganda edge. "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" is blatantly racist propaganda - cross Elmer Fudd with some kid from a farm outside Yokohama and you'll get the general drift of the cartoon. Don't forget the buck teeth. Is till reccomend seeing it, but it - and many official military publications - puts the lie to statements that there were no racial overones in the Pacific War. Of course, the Germans got the same treatment so I'm going to mark it down as simple wartime propaganda and not an overt racist policy.

These cartoons were extensively researched for the South Park "Osama" episode. If that's all you can find it'll give you the general idea.

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steve_v
05-26-2004, 09:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lil_labbit:

You can also find some WWII movies (propaganda etc) at the Internet Archive - Like "Duck and Cover" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh boy do I remember that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
The Hydrogen bomb ended that era and ushered in the "bomb shelter" age, which was also short lived.

Dmitri9mm
05-27-2004, 12:23 AM
The propaganda film I liked the most was "Der Führers face" AKA "Donald in Nutziland" from 1943, it was the only Donald Duck movie EVER to win an Oscar.
I like it because it portrayes the other side of the conflict, showing that the enemy was basically just normal people like you and me.
Donald works in a munitions factory, and is eventually driven insane by the hard pressure that the nazi regime puts on every aspect of his life, of course only to wake up in sweat wearing a "Stars and Stribes" pyjamas! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Throughout the film plays a tune called "Der Führers face", made famous by Spike Jones, and it's really funny! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
The general artistic cuality of the film is very good, the environments being almost surrealistic (and largely consisting of swasticas!)
Since the end of the war, this movie has been completely banned by Disney, but it was shown on Danish television in 1986, and a rip of an old Betamax-tape has been cirkling the internet for quite som time.
http://www.airleague.com.au/features/images/17.jpg
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SUPERAEREO
05-27-2004, 03:12 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mllaneza:
(...) "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" is blatantly racist propaganda - cross Elmer Fudd with some kid from a farm outside Yokohama and you'll get the general drift of the cartoon. Don't forget the buck teeth. Is till reccomend seeing it, but it - and many official military publications - puts the lie to statements that there were no racial overones in the Pacific War. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm... AFAIK there were plenty of racial overtones in the Pacific war, and the inhumane behaviour often demonstrated by Japanese troops didn't of course help to make them more human in the eyes of many westerners. Let's not forget that the Pacific war often achieved levels of ferocity only paralleled by the battles of the Russian Front, and that actions like the killing of prisoners were unfortunately common, and not only on the Japanese side. The behaviour of a physically different enemy, whose language, mentality and customs were totally alien certainly made it easier for many to indulge in acts of cruelty that would have seemed out of place on a Western European battlefield.

S!

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Chuck Yaeger

SUPERAEREO
05-27-2004, 03:15 AM
Dmitri, if I remember correctly from poster reproductions I have seen, the full title was "In Der Fuehrer's Face".

I have never managed to see it, maybe I will do a search on the net for it tonight.

S!

"The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down."
Chuck Yaeger

Chuck_Older
05-27-2004, 07:10 AM
Der Fuehrer's face is also considered one of the best cartoons of all time

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T_O_A_D
05-27-2004, 02:16 PM
Well Since I started it. If it doesn't get back on topic I'll just delete the whole thing. If I still can. Havent tried to delete one over an hour old.

As far as this Micheal Moore guy goes he was not even around back then if he was he was in daipers, so drop it.

This is about some old 1940 American propaganda. Made by Disney. It should help if viewed to place you in understanding the mind set of the day. Besides let you watch some of the most tallented work of the day and dam near all time with the technology they used for making cartoons.

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tttiger
05-27-2004, 02:27 PM
Thanks for the link, Toad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


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Huxley_S
05-27-2004, 02:47 PM
I appologise for my last post. This isn't the place for it. Sorry, a few too many glasses of wine.

I'll check out the donald duck link.

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steve_v
05-27-2004, 04:02 PM
You've been given a helping hand. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
Back on topic.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T_O_A_D:
Well Since I started it. If it doesn't get back on topic I'll just delete the whole thing. If I still can. Havent tried to delete one over an hour old.

This is about some old 1940 American propaganda. Made by Disney. It should help if viewed to place you in understanding the mind set of the day. Besides let you watch some of the most tallented work of the day and dam near all time with the technology they used for making cartoons.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SuspectSquirrel
05-27-2004, 04:47 PM
I definately will purchase this pack. It's a great way to see how many of us in the U.S viewed the rest of the world in a terrible time. Lessons to be learned that we all hope will not be repeated. Thanks for the link, I've already looked into purchasing this and it's on the top of my list.

T_O_A_D
05-27-2004, 05:10 PM
Thanks Steve_v http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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lil_labbit
05-27-2004, 08:57 PM
And then it went silent? Come on ! Disney is great - and I LOVE cartoons ! I definitely will be looking at those cartoons T_O_A_D ! thanks man - and sorry - I mentioned the http://members.home.nl/lil.labbit/smiley/censored_2.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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mllaneza
05-27-2004, 09:44 PM
SUPERAEREO, I'm quite aware that there were racist overtones to WW2, especially in the Pacific. I havem however, encountered a certain amount of revisionists/apologists who maintain that there weren't. I was merely pointing out a primary source that contradicts that theory. I should have pointed out the opposing viewpoint I was addressing (way too many people do that online).

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Menthol_moose
05-27-2004, 11:22 PM
Couldnt resist.. had to buy it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

trashy propagranda is so cool

T_O_A_D
05-28-2004, 02:54 AM
Yep got it ordered tonight aswell Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000BWVAH/qid=1085736188/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2757179-3765625?v=glance&s=dvd)

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SUPERAEREO
05-28-2004, 02:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mllaneza:
SUPERAEREO, I'm quite aware that there were racist overtones to WW2, especially in the Pacific. I havem however, encountered a certain amount of revisionists/apologists who maintain that there weren't. I was merely pointing out a primary source that contradicts that theory. I should have pointed out the opposing viewpoint I was addressing (way too many people do that online).<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

MLLANEZA, don't get me wrong: I was in fact expressing my surprise that such revisionist points of view might exist - you have to forgive me in that because I am no Pacific War historian, but all the histories I have read confirmed tales of racial hatred - my initial "ERM..." was directed at such teories and not at you! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
05-28-2004, 06:41 AM
I'm definately adding it to my collection. Its a great piece of Americana and Allied WWII history.

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yarbles67
05-28-2004, 10:12 AM
I just ordered this one and the other disney treasure - the golden age of space flight. Great stuff and thanks for posting that link.

T_O_A_D
05-29-2004, 08:43 PM
Just got home from Sam's Club They have them there for 23 bucks here in the states. Found out my wife didn't actually buy them the other night. So we got it today. They also had teh space flight one and two others, that were based on just old cartoons. Some time tonight I'll get some popcorn and get into it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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