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tonywizzz
04-12-2004, 07:32 PM
Obviously open cools the engine more (I think), I read elsewhere this will lose u 20kph off top speed, do settings, 2,4 etc just give less cooling for less speed loss, how do u use the settings in flight?

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tonywizzz
04-12-2004, 07:32 PM
Obviously open cools the engine more (I think), I read elsewhere this will lose u 20kph off top speed, do settings, 2,4 etc just give less cooling for less speed loss, how do u use the settings in flight?

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horseback
04-12-2004, 08:05 PM
LW fighters control it automatically by default, although it's always your option to set the radiator manually, particularly when you're overheating. Generally, I've found that I can leave them alone in auto, if my throttle is going down below 60% every so often.

I always assumed that the radiators opened wider the higher setting you picked, so in most cases, I assume the VVS and other types would use a low to mid-range setting for cruise, and high or wide open in the climb or combat, unless you're running for your life, and don't care if the engine fries after you've escaped.

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Maple_Tiger
04-12-2004, 08:18 PM
Your right tony.

Also when you dive on someone its not a bad idea to fully open your rad, then close it when you zoom back up. Redusing the RPM setting while in a dive also helps to keep the engine cool.



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Spy17
04-13-2004, 01:33 AM
Unfortunately there is no way to figure out the radiator position if you do not use external view and text...

Hunde_3.JG51
04-13-2004, 01:42 AM
Just to add that the FW-190 is the only one (I believe) that has an "auto" radiator setting that actually means closed. It used to have auto-radiator but this was not historically correct as the FW-190 used manually controlled cooling gills. So remember that in the 190 auto=closed. Hopefully they will eliminate this in patch to avoid confusion.

And as others said opening radiator for cooling when diving and closing for climbing is usually a good idea. I also leave mine open when cruising looking for enemies to avoid building heat that you will need later. Setting 4 and 6 provide a decent balance of coolong and speed loss but I prefer max performance until I catch an opportunity to open radiator (diving, cruising, severe energy advantage over opponent, wounded/crippled opponent, etc.).

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Locust_
04-13-2004, 02:25 AM
personaly I never use auto.....

Its a waste of time

Crank it wide open & leave it there, untill your engaudged

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michapma
04-13-2004, 03:26 AM
It's a good idea to keep the radiator closed when engaged because it exposes your engine more to damage.

You simply need to find appropriate times to cool the engine. You can keep the engine cool during normal operation by reducing power (throttle and rpm). The radiator can be used to cool the engine quickly during a pause in the action or during the action if you think that the risk to damage is low. (A round into the engine is usually more damaging than a bit of overheating.)

Whether you want to use it when there is no action is a question of preference. I prefer to fly with the radiator closed all the time, including during climb and cruise (one less thing to remember when combat starts). I reduce throttle and rpm to keep the engine cool. I then use radiator when I have a break in the action, such as in dives, when I am maneuvering for position and not in immediate danger, when pursuing, etc.

The drag of an open radiator does negatively influence the climb rate and reduce top speed for a given power setting. I have never seen (though it might exist) a systematic study for any plane whether you can actually obtain a faster long-term speed with the rad open by running at a higher engine performance. As far as I know it's still up to best guess or your own experimentation.

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Fehler
04-13-2004, 04:08 AM
I typically use open rads when climbing from the airbase. I try to become the highest plane on the server, then I dont go over 80% throttle. When I dive on someone, my rads are open, and I will go to 110% rads closed to zoom away.

When in a dogfight, I keep rads open on the 190, closed in a 109. It might be imagined, but the 109 rads are very inefficient (draggy) and with rads closed, my radiators are a little more protected, or so it seems, from gunfire. The 190 doesnt seem to matter. Also, while dogfighting, I try to not exceed 90% throttle in either plane as I may possibly need the extra power to extend away.

While extending, I close rads for a little extra speed. Yes, you will overheat faster, but if you calculated your E properly, you will have extended far enough away that a slight power decrease and open rad positioning will cool your engine sufficiently. Also, when extending and cooling from an overheated situation, cutting throttle a little and entering a very shallow dive to sustain your speed is essential. In a cat and mouse chase, the smart heat management will win in a prolonged situation. (Unless the enemy is flying a La, in which case he will never overheat and you are left with the <Ctrl>E option! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

On a side note, the 190 Air-break-e-a-tor thing seems to be back in AEP. You will lose a lot of speed when opening your rads. Be aware of that. (Even though the design was so efficient IRL) it really seems to slow you down a bunch - worse than it was in 1.22 IMHO.

I just cant figure out what to do in the Japanese planes. Typically, they turn best at slow speeds, so cooling is not that important. Entering a turn slow, increasing throttle at the apex, and slowing back down again when coming out of the turn. That given, I have been experimenting with leaving the rads closed and climbing at near stall speeds with less than 95% throttle. So far it seems to work well, but I havent done enough testing to see what is the best climb/overheat configuration for say, the Zero.

Oh, BTW.. the P-40 v A6M matchup like on Warclouds Historic is simply F U N! It is probably the best historical plane matchup in AEP.

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tonywizzz
04-13-2004, 07:30 AM
Tks for replies guys, helps a lot, anybody any suggestions, specifice to Spitfire?

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gates123
04-13-2004, 11:37 AM
Theres nothing worse then overheating your engine in a prolonged dogfight. Lately I've been running my rads wide open with full throttle on most planes. I rather sacrifice my radiator setting for the extra HP at full power, especially if WEP is on. These are "factory fresh" planes so why not just floor it. My mechanic wont care!! Since my rads are always opened in a dogfight.. when I see a overheat it wont take much to cool her down just bring it down to 100 and drop the prop pith to 90 (if that) and it usually does the tick in most planes. The last thing I want to do in a intense dogfight is deal with overheating issues and fiddling with my throttle and rad settings, I much rather focus on the next victim and leaving the rads wide open lets me do this. Now if I'm being chased by 3 p-38's or chasing a mustang thats heading home, the little things mean alot and I'll close my rads to get the extra 10 or 20 kph but overall I rather not deal with it in a dogfight and feel safer having the option of keeping my throttle at 110% when needed. To each pilot his own.

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