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LuckyBoy1
08-13-2004, 09:44 PM
Well.. she looked at my game and said, "How do you have all those trees and no birds"?! I thought about it for a minute and smoked on it for a while. I came to this forum and saw AGAIN the posts whining about this obscure thing or that obscure thing when we can't even get the bomb loadout right for the P-47 or any flyable B-17's or B-29's that did a great deal of the bombing work in WWII. So in the end, I thought, "Ok, if they can whine for more eye candy on a game that already taxes most systems and for obscure planes, I'll throw my wife's request in the hat as well.

Remember, I still dig flying the HE-111's using the clown skins and watching the crew bail out! My request is for a Volkswagen Beatle as a bomb loadout!

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LuckyBoy1
08-13-2004, 09:44 PM
Well.. she looked at my game and said, "How do you have all those trees and no birds"?! I thought about it for a minute and smoked on it for a while. I came to this forum and saw AGAIN the posts whining about this obscure thing or that obscure thing when we can't even get the bomb loadout right for the P-47 or any flyable B-17's or B-29's that did a great deal of the bombing work in WWII. So in the end, I thought, "Ok, if they can whine for more eye candy on a game that already taxes most systems and for obscure planes, I'll throw my wife's request in the hat as well.

Remember, I still dig flying the HE-111's using the clown skins and watching the crew bail out! My request is for a Volkswagen Beatle as a bomb loadout!

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TheJoyStick
08-13-2004, 09:47 PM
Doesn't seem to me like that'd be too hard to do, or hard on the system, either..


Rockets are already in the game, and a bird would just be a slightly altered, less pretty rocket..

RAAF_Edin
08-13-2004, 09:57 PM
I recon people are way more important then birds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why would you want the birds anyway? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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triggerhappyfin
08-14-2004, 03:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RAAF_Edin:
I recon people are way more important then birds http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Why would you want the birds anyway? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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Nice feature to have them splashed all over the windshield.... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif they have to be sychronised with the propellor though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif.


Pidgeons would be rather nice to have...for communications, online I mean.

As the built in comms dont seem to work. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif

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SeaFireLIV
08-14-2004, 04:16 AM
Normally, I`d say that`s a typical girly thing to hear... aesthetics over content.

But ever since I first started flying sims (over 10 years ago), i`ve always wondered why we don`t have birds flying in the distance.

They don`t have to be near or close, just there sometimes, flying against the sky or just fluttering from the trees. It would also add immersion. Medieval total War does this and you`d be surprised how much more it adds to the feeling of reality.

To me, the BIRD should be given a NOD of respect and acknowledgement, because it is the BIRD that made men look up and want to fly. We wouldn`t have this sim without them. (then again we wouldn`t have war in the air - but that`s not the birds fault).

If I ever make a flight sim (unlikely), I will DEFINITELY have birds in some simple way flying around. They DESERVE it.

Maybe I`ll even do a bird picture now in respect...

Xnomad
08-14-2004, 04:33 AM
I thought it was a nice touch in FarCry to include birds flapping above the forest and tapirs in the undergrowth, needless to say my trigger happy hunter instincts were immediatley tested and I was satisfied that they could succumb to my full auto 5.56 x 45 mm fire. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I should be ashamed of myself http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/51.gif

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p1ngu666
08-14-2004, 08:37 AM
yeah the birds in total war rock.

also there is a significant danger of low flying aircraft being intercepted by birds.
on some days ducks where more effective than the luftwaffe at intercepting mossies http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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GT182
08-14-2004, 08:56 AM
There are birds chirping in the background of B17 Flying Fortress, once you load a mission before you start your engines. They're the no-see-em kind tho.

As for being in FB it would give you something more to dodge besides bullets, and have to clean the occasional doodoo off the canopy. LOL http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

But what will they eat? There are no bugs in the game.....or worms. Will they be added too? Because if not, the animal rights groups will be all over Oleg and 1C for not having any food for our feathered friends. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

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Chuck_Older
08-14-2004, 09:30 AM
How can we have all that earth with no earthlings running around on it? I never see one unless I put one there in a truck and then I strafe it, or a downed pilot runs for the hills.

Also, I never have seen a whale broach in PF. 3/4 of the world is water. No whales in FB, though

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Maple_Tiger
08-14-2004, 09:36 AM
Yea!

Birds would be very cool. Mayby we could train pidgeons to poop on Luftwalf planes.

Mayby we could like have some cows added to the game. Be nice to straff them lol.

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LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 09:52 AM
Well, I just want to make sure the birds are modelled correctly. We will need data as to their rate of climb, turn capability, and top speed as well as ceiling capability. Has anyone studied this when their stomach is 25% - 50% - 75% - 100% full?

Also, we would need to know their bomb loadout capability. I know from parking my car in the shade of a tree at work that it can be substantial! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Monty_Thrud
08-14-2004, 10:16 AM
And what type of birds?...Swallows, Sparrows , Crowes, Blackbirds, etc

Anyone have the turn and climb rates of Swallows? please http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 10:23 AM
Well, that's another thing we have to consider. I think it should be based on a combination of production numbers and importance of the birds as far as their total impact on the battlefield during the war. So, just how many pigeons did the Germans produce? Surely it wasn't more than what London has! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

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Monty_Thrud
08-14-2004, 10:33 AM
Exactly...what damage does a 5 oz bird do to a 5,784lb Spitfire?

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LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 10:51 AM
Well, I can tell you what 3 snow geese do to a Piper Cherokee at 7,500 feet at normal cruise. It put three large dents in the leading edge of my right wing and sent me in a forced turn back to earth. I landed in a farmers rice field in Zowi LA, U.S.A. He came out and instead of asking if I was alright or how can I help, he says, "Who's gonna pay fer my rice"? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/354.gif

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ZG77_Nagual
08-14-2004, 10:57 AM
Yah, well your lucky the DNR didn't nail you for wackin endagered species.

We had bambage in Janes.

AdmiralWarlord
08-14-2004, 11:01 AM
Doesn't anyone remember Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade? Italian Birds knocking out a Me-109 ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 11:11 AM
Actually, at the time, I don't think there was any discussion on them being endangered. However, the FAA at first refused to believe that snow geese flew that high. But the investigator on the scene pulled feathers from the wreckage that was found to be from snow geese. At the time, all I saw was what looked like a bunch of blurry rags wizzing by my plane. I didn't know what had happened either at first.

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Monty_Thrud
08-14-2004, 11:25 AM
Ah!...now we're getting somewhere...so 3 geese can bring down a plane, are these canadian geese?...now just imagine what a schwarm of Swallows can do...or a herd of geese...frightening http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif...no maybe not a good idea to have birds in this sim http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 11:49 AM
Actually, they are a bit bigger than a Canadian goose. Still, with things like the bomb loadout wrong on the P-47 and the lack of flyable B-17 or B29, I'd rather petty requests like this die the death they so deserve.

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ECV56_Rolf
08-14-2004, 12:02 PM
Well... WWII fighters sported deers on the ground... maybe it is not a so strange request after all... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

BTW... you could hunt them!

Friendly_flyer
08-14-2004, 01:22 PM
Birs would be nice! Try immagine:

You load up an inland summer mission, early morning (around 5 o'clock). Sitting there on the airfield, waiting for your turn to take off, you go to outside view, scrolling a way bit and listen to the blacbirds singing. As you take off a bit low, a flock of dark skapes flutter from the nearby trees.

Fly friendly!

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LuckyBoy1
08-14-2004, 01:40 PM
Just think, you're going down the runway early in the moring in your FW-190 and a bird bombs your windshield. Because the whiners in this game thought the bird bombs were undermoddeled on the last patch, the white stuff completely covers your windshield and you crash! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

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GT182
08-14-2004, 01:56 PM
Monty_Thrud. Snow and Canadian geese will leave one heck of a mess of doodoo on the ground too. Not a pretty site when you have to tiptoe thru it. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif And if the airways are filled with migrating geese at that certain time of year it sure will be dangerous flying.

Fearthered friends of any kind in FB might be more than we can handle, as LuckyBoy1 says.

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nearmiss
08-14-2004, 02:59 PM
We need people walking around and bouncing off the objects. Then when you make a pass they all run like crazy and fall down. Probably too complicated, because we'd have some whiners complaining about the kill count not be representative of what really happened if the people aren't counted.

So...take it from there and we'll need a Gooney bird count as well.

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HUTCH_HUTCH
08-14-2004, 03:49 PM
I was thinking ..If they added birds ..could they be AI birds..and if so ..It would be fun
to fly them in a "AI fly map" hehe..
just kidding ...tell her to go out side to enjoy the birds ..we dont need no stinking birds..
we need more flyable bombers..HINT HINT

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bird_brain
08-14-2004, 04:05 PM
This is a great thread...Right up my alley. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I agree that birds would be great in the sim, but you would have to add a feature for which side they are on.

It would be totally uncool if you ran into a bird on your own airfield and you didn't get the "Stop...your firing at a friendly" message. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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VR_Ace_
08-14-2004, 05:16 PM
well if you want to know the relative perfromance of the african and european swallows i suggest u check out this site, it has all the data, coconut bombload http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VR_Ace_
08-14-2004, 05:18 PM
sry, this one http://arago4.tn.utwente.nl/stonedead/movies/holy-grail/scene-01.html

Monty_Thrud
08-14-2004, 06:26 PM
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

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heywooood
08-14-2004, 10:07 PM
Well - I dont want to 'grouse' about it but... what kinda birds?... and don't 'duck' the question either. Would they be included in a paid add-on?..I dont think I have the 'budgie' to afford that...just for the birds I mean. I'm not just another 'pidgeon' to be plucked of my hard earned corn ya know. But if it were free I wouldn't mind, one good 'tern' deserves another as they say.



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Joe_Lampshade
08-14-2004, 10:44 PM
Oleg! The hawks are overmodeled they can turn too tightly.

The view from the hawk sucks. Its beak is blocking my vision in real life they have a better view.

triggerhappyfin
08-15-2004, 02:19 PM
Wanted for ground pounding the birds!! (http://www.ahajokes.com/video/m117.zip)



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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
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And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

PBNA-Boosher
08-15-2004, 03:49 PM
you guys would get a kick out of a story I'm writing right now. It's about a Luftwaffe airfield in 1942 outside of Berlin. The Bf-109 Berlin Defense fighters are having problems on T/O and Landing because of problems with their landing gear. When an inspection on the airfield is done, it turns out that Turtles have been crossing the runway to get from one pond to another pond on the other side of the airfield. It's a pretty funny story.

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triggerhappyfin
08-15-2004, 04:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
you guys would get a kick out of a story I'm writing right now. It's about a Luftwaffe airfield in 1942 outside of Berlin. The Bf-109 Berlin Defense fighters are having problems on T/O and Landing because of problems with their landing gear. When an inspection on the airfield is done, it turns out that Turtles have been crossing the runway to get from one pond to another pond on the other side of the airfield. It's a pretty funny story.

Boosher
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No wildlife turtles in EUROPE... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

NegativeGee
08-15-2004, 05:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
Well - I dont want to 'grouse' about it but... what kinda birds?... and don't 'duck' the question either. Would they be included in a paid add-on?..I dont think I have the 'budgie' to afford that...just for the birds I mean. I'm not just another 'pidgeon' to be plucked of my hard earned corn ya know. But if it were free I wouldn't mind, one good 'tern' deserves another as they say.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ack, another one of your puns today (yes, I read the delta wood thread http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif) and I'm going to be needing some CPR http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/heart.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

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PBNA-Boosher
08-15-2004, 05:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:


No wildlife turtles in EUROPE... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the point... It turns out that an American spy is sabotaging the planes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif When it's done i'll let you get a read of it.

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DarthBane_
08-15-2004, 06:13 PM
And loadout of tar canisters, with secondary delayed feather filled bombs.

triggerhappyfin
08-16-2004, 01:34 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by triggerhappyfin:


No wildlife turtles in EUROPE... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's the point... It turns out that an American spy is sabotaging the planes. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif When it's done i'll let you get a read of it.

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Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

SeaFireLIV
08-16-2004, 02:35 AM
Bah! I know Luckboy1 was really talking tongue in cheek there, but I REALLY do think birds would be great to add. You don`t need complex models, you don`t need collision detection, etc - just have them there in the distnce, flying about as scenery.

People always rubbish this but we should have this in.

"Over your head and under your feet my friend". As someone else said...

Oleg! OI! Birds!

1. Simple polygon triangles (will look fine at distance- add nothing to frame rate).

2. Keep birds at distance. Allow them NEVER to come into contact with planes.

3. Only appear where there`s no fighting. So we may see them at those quiet dawn/ midday/ dusk moments.

It`s just for immersion, but more importantly the BIRD deserves a little respect, without it, we wouldn`t even have this simulation. THINK about it!

Thanks, Oleg. hope the family`s going from strength to ... er strength.

LuckyBoy1
08-16-2004, 05:01 AM
SeaFire... you are one of my good friends in this forum, so I thought I'd give you the word on polygons; there's nothing simple about them. Clouds, dust and smoke in this game are made up of polygons and we all know what that means! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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SeaFireLIV
08-16-2004, 05:11 AM
hmm. er... I knew my lack of software knowledge would catch me out. But can`t we use the similar process that`s used in Medieval Total War. Birds fly in that and up close they look just like 3 basic triangles stuck together to make up one bird! But it works! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LuckyBoy1
08-16-2004, 05:42 AM
It's not that in of itself it would be any big deal. It's just that polygons are what? They are trigonometry calculations. No big deal for the CPU if it's not busy calculating all those flight modelling curves (lots of 'em by the way) that all of us whiners have come to grouse ( no pun inten... ok, you decide! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif ) about in Oleg's ready room. Again, it is a matter of priorities and perspective. This game that had the boyds fluttering about in the distance... you play it in preferrence to this game? Well, that's because Oleg cut the cake on a bit of a different priority.

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Rab03
08-16-2004, 07:25 AM
Oh my, if that gets included (would love it) FPS go way down. Collision model could be the problem-as it is now with ground structures.

Imagine you were in a very exciting mission, dogfighting in a grand furball and surviving it, surviving flak, etc. You land to your home base still thrilled that you made it, when suddenly a sparrow flies in (doing 30), hits your plane, and plane explodes!

P.S. Censors wouldn't be very happy to see bird blood smeared over windshield.

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heywooood
08-16-2004, 07:02 PM
I just love the 'ummm...errmmm...etc' intro's to the sarcastic 'yeah - I already know that' posts..... Just sayin' http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif



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SeaFireLIV
08-17-2004, 04:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by heywooood:
I just love the 'ummm...errmmm...etc' intro's to the sarcastic 'yeah - I already know that' posts..... Just sayin' http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

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Er... eh... umm... what?

Just my standard off-setting tactic to make others feel like they have the advantage. When they haven`t! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Looks like Oleg won`t be implementing birds then...

LBR_Barkhorn
08-20-2004, 12:22 PM
For God's sake!!! I'm just reading, in an nearby hypothethic future, some whining threads where some players will write that allied planes will be more resistant to birds than axis planes, or that the american birds will fly to much disperssed one from other, decreasing his damage potential (i've read somethin like this in some place... where?)... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

P.S.: Somebody will say: "Call the WWF, the Greenpeace, the SUIPA, someone!!!! This guy is not an wildlife friend!!!!" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/88.gif
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08-20-2004, 01:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Monty_Thrud:
And what type of birds?...Swallows, Sparrows , Crowes, Blackbirds, etc

Anyone have the turn and climb rates of Swallows? please http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>A North American Sparrow?
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