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Pentallion
05-20-2004, 05:49 PM
Just read this from one of my wingmates:

the Naval AAA engaging at 10 km, made me suspect that the armour would be accurately engaging Ac. as well-same code?

So I setup a QMB with the Ju.87 D5 & G '43.

I flew the G modell & Ai were the D5's

The D's dive bombed columns of T34-76's on Moscow map, while my flight of G's swung in low to engage from behind.
While on approach to the advancing T34's, all 4 D5's reported fatal hits & were shotdown!

I lined up on the lead T34 & watched the others traverse their turrets & open fire on my Stuka!
The 3rd T34 shot off my port wing & I spiralled in!


I'm sorry, but the odds of a tank tracking and downing a plane are pretty poor. This is ridiculous and a game killer. If the tanks can kill like that imagine how unrealistice the ship and artillery AAA must be.

http://www.simops.com/249th/sigs/Wildcard.jpg

Pentallion
05-20-2004, 05:49 PM
Just read this from one of my wingmates:

the Naval AAA engaging at 10 km, made me suspect that the armour would be accurately engaging Ac. as well-same code?

So I setup a QMB with the Ju.87 D5 & G '43.

I flew the G modell & Ai were the D5's

The D's dive bombed columns of T34-76's on Moscow map, while my flight of G's swung in low to engage from behind.
While on approach to the advancing T34's, all 4 D5's reported fatal hits & were shotdown!

I lined up on the lead T34 & watched the others traverse their turrets & open fire on my Stuka!
The 3rd T34 shot off my port wing & I spiralled in!


I'm sorry, but the odds of a tank tracking and downing a plane are pretty poor. This is ridiculous and a game killer. If the tanks can kill like that imagine how unrealistice the ship and artillery AAA must be.

http://www.simops.com/249th/sigs/Wildcard.jpg

Obi_Kwiet
05-20-2004, 06:15 PM
It's Sargent Rock of Easy Co.! *charges up hills killing tanks, exploding FW 190's, and taking out 50 MG nests, with only his 6 other men!* Comming shortly to IL2:FB. Good news is, muzzle flashs will be smaller. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif

GT182
05-21-2004, 09:06 AM
Don't feel bad. I went against a B25 in QMB with a 109 F4 and the 25s gunners nail ya from over 300 meters. Disappointing to say the least. At least keep max range the same for all guns.

And muzzle flash seems worse now than before patch 2.01. What's up with that if I can ask?

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Willey
05-21-2004, 11:32 AM
I hated the tanks in FB and 2.0 already, but now there're just plain uber... Flak also seems stronger again, stronger and stronger with every version http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif. With these Flak, the Luftwaffe would have killed 80% of all B-17s flying over Germany with 88mm guns... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.

SeaFireLIV
05-21-2004, 11:36 AM
If tanks are shooting down planes, that IS bad news! No way should that be happening! Dux Corvan mentioned this earlier...

Luftcaca
05-21-2004, 11:50 AM
yes you're right Willey
I noticed the the flak and everything shooting from ground is deadly again when I flew my Il2 campaign for the 1st time since Ive intalled the patch.

Why changing it again? I think it was ok with original AEP...

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Formerly ''known'' as Gunther Aeroburst

brasil66
05-21-2004, 10:21 PM
I urge you pathetic, 12 yr old whiners to immediately quit playing this game and sell your copies. Then, I further suggest, you proceed to develop your own flight sims, which I am sure will be a great improvement upon all preceeding games. Best of luck...and piss off.

JAS_Gripen
05-22-2004, 09:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Willey:
I hated the tanks in FB and 2.0 already, but now there're just plain uber... Flak also seems stronger again, stronger and stronger with every version http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif. With these Flak, the Luftwaffe would have killed 80% of all B-17s flying over Germany with 88mm guns... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, looks like they bolted pre-AEP flak modeling into this patch. The heavy flak is far too accurate IMO-these were single-shot guns and promixity fuses were strictly late-war addition!

The worst part is that pre-patch FMB missions have became suicide rides as the flak gun density is according to the previous accuracy modeling. Which, while perhaps a tad too non-lethal, was more believeable (=fighters were not almost unnecessary due to the lethality of flak).

I hope this is not the final word on flak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/52.gif

JAS_Gripen
05-22-2004, 09:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by brasil66:
I urge you pathetic, 12 yr old whiners to immediately quit playing this game and sell your copies. Then, I further suggest, you proceed to develop your own flight sims, which I am sure will be a great improvement upon all preceeding games. Best of luck...and piss off.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I urge the mods to ban this troll for good...