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cueceleches
03-30-2004, 04:43 AM
I fianally got the one that suits me best...
In FB, I liked to fly the Mig3 and Yak 3 on the red side, and Bf109Gx and Fw 190 A8 on the blue side...
When AEP went out, I tried every new plane, the old ones, everything online, and couldn´t find anymore one in which I felt easy...But yesterday, I tried the last one, and one I didn´t expect too much from: the P63...and I was astonished of its performance.
It accelerates good enough, doesn´t climb too badly, is fast enough, turns almost like a Yak, and has a powerful cannon. I really felt good with that one in my hands. On the other side, I personnally think that its cockpit is the best in FB AEP, so, I´m decided to keep it, even though I have to try it more and see what it happens. But I got quite a bunch of bandits down!!

cueceleches
03-30-2004, 04:43 AM
I fianally got the one that suits me best...
In FB, I liked to fly the Mig3 and Yak 3 on the red side, and Bf109Gx and Fw 190 A8 on the blue side...
When AEP went out, I tried every new plane, the old ones, everything online, and couldn´t find anymore one in which I felt easy...But yesterday, I tried the last one, and one I didn´t expect too much from: the P63...and I was astonished of its performance.
It accelerates good enough, doesn´t climb too badly, is fast enough, turns almost like a Yak, and has a powerful cannon. I really felt good with that one in my hands. On the other side, I personnally think that its cockpit is the best in FB AEP, so, I´m decided to keep it, even though I have to try it more and see what it happens. But I got quite a bunch of bandits down!!

HuninMunin
03-30-2004, 04:58 AM
And it`s a tank.
`Had to pump 11(!?) 30mm into one until the wing
fell off finaly.
But I guess thats mor the Mk`s fault then the DM`s.

S!

cueceleches
03-30-2004, 05:07 AM
That´s right, sometimes. Yesterday, I got shot down by a Ta152 with only to well placed shots in the wing roots, while another time, it took a Fw190 A9 quite a bunch of shots to cream my engine and tear off my rudder and vertical stab. It just reminds me of the actual A10, which is so hard to down.

Fehler
03-30-2004, 05:10 AM
For me, I like the Ta-152, hands down. It's a tricky bird.

On the other side of the coin, I really like the Lightning. Those dive breaks can really help you turn on a dime.

As for the "Crap" planes, I love that CR42.

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cueceleches
03-30-2004, 05:16 AM
I also like the P38, but I think it´s way to vulnerable, even though the engine redundancy...A few light caliber bullets and you get a nice lightning wreckage.

Dmitri9mm
03-30-2004, 05:19 AM
After I tried all of the planes in AEP (I got it some two weeks ago)I must say that I like the the P-38 the best, which kinda suprised me since I normally hate flying American a/c.
On the other hand: The two new British planes Spitfire and "Gladiator"(though it's Swedish) are way too uber when it comes to turning. The Gladiator is the worst, it can stay in a sustained 80 degrees banking turn with full force on the elvators forever without stalling or even loosing much speed.
I think it would be nice to have these planes toned down a bit since they are the ones I looked most forward to fly and now I'm embarrased to fly them online.

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WOLFMondo
03-30-2004, 05:24 AM
I don't either the Gladiator or Spit are uber or overmodelled. Both have very exploitable weaknesses that can be taken advantage of relativly easily.

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HuninMunin
03-30-2004, 05:24 AM
The Lightning is nice.
Isn`t it a nice feeling to have 2 enginges? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I`m always getting over-confident with 2mots.
But I like the 110 better.
It looks more like a weapon http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif .
And of course you got the mg at your six.
If this f****** moron would do his job http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/35.gif .

S!

Extreme_One
03-30-2004, 05:47 AM
I love the Lightning too - the feeling that the bird is seriously OVERPOWERED is awesome.

I like the 110 too (I suppose it's the novelty of having two engines)

And as for the Spitfire... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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konstantinl1
03-30-2004, 06:01 AM
For me the Lightning is slow (unless your going in straight lines) and stalls real easy. Your almost afraid to go below 3000m in it!

I know, I know, boom and zoom....

cueceleches
03-30-2004, 08:07 AM
I´m curious about the Bf 110...I haven´t tried it very much. How does it perform? I guess it´s a fine aircraft for early servers (1941) but is too vulnerable against more actual fighters.
IIRC, the 110 was used later in the war as a quite succesful night fighter against the B17s and B24s, wasn´t it?

TinkerToy__
03-30-2004, 08:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
For me, I like the Ta-152, hands down. It's a tricky bird.

On the other side of the coin, I really like the Lightning. Those dive breaks can really help you turn on a dime.

As for the "Crap" planes, I love that CR42.

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Are the dive brakes mapped by default? The first time I flew it I slammed into the earth doing some absolutely dense speed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

cueceleches
03-30-2004, 08:35 AM
Try assigning them to your joystik...otherwise, you will see yourself diving at 700kph at 1000m and looking for the correct keys on your keyboard...you know the result....

HuninMunin
03-30-2004, 08:46 AM
@cueceleches
Yes, it was used very succesfully as a nightfighter.
If my Info is right Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer
accomplished 121 Air Victorys.
Mainly flying the 110.

michapma
03-30-2004, 08:47 AM
The very first time I fought in the Lightning I ended up in an "unrecoverable" dive into the ocean. Didn't know about the speed brakes yet. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

It's certainly frustrating fighting Zeros, you have to be very patient and climb... turning into them even when they are more than a click behind you is just not an option!

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cueceleches
03-30-2004, 08:52 AM
So, let´s consider the P38 the "american 109"? I mean, a pure B&Z plane?
Anyway, I don´t think there is a single american fighter capable of out turning a Zero...at least, not in AEP. Maybe with a future Hellcat, Wildcat or Corsair?

WOLFMondo
03-30-2004, 08:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cueceleches:
I´m curious about the Bf 110...I haven´t tried it very much. How does it perform? I guess it´s a fine aircraft for early servers (1941) but is too vulnerable against more actual fighters.
IIRC, the 110 was used later in the war as a quite succesful night fighter against the B17s and B24s, wasn´t it?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its a real fun plane, lots of armament variations and great for ground attack but its slow and clumbersome compared with any of the pure fighters.

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Tully__
03-30-2004, 08:55 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cueceleches:
So, let´s consider the P38 the "american 109"? I mean, a pure B&Z plane?
Anyway, I don´t think there is a single american fighter capable of out turning a Zero...at least, not in AEP. Maybe with a future Hellcat, Wildcat or Corsair?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If I understand the relative flight characteristics, none of them in a sustained turn, but several of them in a short turn to get onto a dodging target during a slashing attack provided the relative speeds are also right.

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cueceleches
03-30-2004, 08:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:

If I understand the relative flight characteristics, none of them in a sustained turn, but several of them in a short turn to get onto a dodging target during a slashing attack provided the relative speeds are also right.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you mean high speed / high deflection turns?

LEXX_Luthor
03-30-2004, 08:59 AM
Dmitri9mm, the Glad may not be overmodded, when you think that the Forced required to turn a plane depends on the speed squared, the slow Glad may very well be able to turn all day, and anyway, what would happen if you stuffed 800hp engine into WW1 Biplane. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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mike_espo
03-30-2004, 09:05 AM
I like flying the new Italian aircraft; the CR.42 and the G.50. Although the G.50 flies a bit better than I thought it would from what Ive read. Feels more like what the MC.200 should feel like. As for the CR.42, just needs a tweak with spins. Otherwise both are beautiful.

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HayateKid
03-30-2004, 09:11 AM
I like the Ki-84c. It's like a p-63 with better roll-rate.

cueceleches
03-30-2004, 09:15 AM
The Ki 84c is a good one, but way too weak..a few bullets in it and it starts burning like a molotov cocktail.

Tully__
03-31-2004, 02:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cueceleches:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tully__:

If I understand the relative flight characteristics, none of them in a sustained turn, but several of them in a short turn to get onto a dodging target during a slashing attack provided the relative speeds are also right.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you mean high speed / high deflection turns?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's them.

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cueceleches
03-31-2004, 03:26 AM
Yesterday, I could test a little bit more some american fighters, and finally got this conclusions:

- The P38, at low level, is completly useless. It turns really really bad, and stalls easily. At higher leveles and high speeds, it´s a tough opponent.Weaponery is OK.
- The P63...well, my thoughts remain the same: good turner, good firepower, nice speed...very good low level fighter. Well flown, a very dangerous plane.
- P51: an all-around plane. Not too bad at low level, not too good neither. Best performance at higher levels and above 450KPH. Six 0.5 cal. machine guns are well enough.

On the German side, I tested:

-Bf 110 G: A little better than I first thought.A large array of weapons, in this matter, quite powerful indeed. It´s not at all that clumsy. It turns and climbs better than I expected, and dives quite fine. But a rather easy target for more modern and faster planes.

I keep the Bf 109 G6/as as my preferres weapon on the german side. It´s maybe not the best 109, but I feel comfortable flying it.

That´s it!