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Bomber_Dude
09-17-2004, 06:06 PM
OK, probably been hashed out before and I just missed it. When I fly the P38 I usually fly the L which I have read tends to overheat rather quickly. (hell the temp gauge reads near the peg even when you cruise at 60% with the rads open)

What really threw me the other day was that I pranged a prop on a straffing run. No enemy planes around so I increased power on the still functioning engine and headed for my home base keeping a weary eye on the temp gauge expecting an over heat at any time.

Much to my surprise the temperature dropped on both engines. I even cranked the power up 110% and it still didn't run as warm as it does at cruise speed with both engines functioning.

Don't think this is right. It would indicate the engines share a common cooling system which would negate the advantage of having two engines as far as reliability goes. I don't do CEM, does this work differently if you do or is it just hosed in the software ?

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Bomber_Dude
09-17-2004, 06:06 PM
OK, probably been hashed out before and I just missed it. When I fly the P38 I usually fly the L which I have read tends to overheat rather quickly. (hell the temp gauge reads near the peg even when you cruise at 60% with the rads open)

What really threw me the other day was that I pranged a prop on a straffing run. No enemy planes around so I increased power on the still functioning engine and headed for my home base keeping a weary eye on the temp gauge expecting an over heat at any time.

Much to my surprise the temperature dropped on both engines. I even cranked the power up 110% and it still didn't run as warm as it does at cruise speed with both engines functioning.

Don't think this is right. It would indicate the engines share a common cooling system which would negate the advantage of having two engines as far as reliability goes. I don't do CEM, does this work differently if you do or is it just hosed in the software ?

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VW-IceFire
09-17-2004, 07:06 PM
Odd...I hadn't thought about it.

P-38's tended to have really exceptional cooling overall and I leave it on auto maangement which means that overheats are a minor issue...even on the desert map. I think its the best plane on the desert map actually...

I didn't know the L's tended to get a little warm. Interesting.

Anyways, that may be a bug or it may be CEM...

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LStarosta
09-17-2004, 07:17 PM
Yeah, I'm with Ice here...

From all I've heard, P38's tended to OVERCOOL, rather than overheat... Especially at high altitudes...

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FI-Aflak
09-17-2004, 07:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LStarosta:
Yeah, I'm with Ice here...

From all I've heard, P38's tended to OVERCOOL, rather than overheat... Especially at high altitudes...

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motors didn't have a warmth problem, twas the pilots that got cold. And nobody cares about the pilots.

LStarosta
09-17-2004, 07:36 PM
Exactly, you got cabin heat from the engines, however, with the engines being in thier own nacelles cooled so well, the pilots lacked heat in the cockpit.

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PBNA-Boosher
09-17-2004, 10:05 PM
LStarosta, according to what I've read, only half of the pilots lacked heat in the cockpit. Their upper body was well heated by the cockpit heat controls. However, the pilots' legs, the bottom part of the cockpit, were not part of the heating system. This is why P-38 pilots in the ETO may have been said to have, "cold feet." Not because they were scared, but because their feet were so cold they concentrated on that more than they should have. By late model P-38H's and subsequent versions, this problem was mostly fixed.

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p1ngu666
09-17-2004, 10:11 PM
u prolly have rads on auto setting http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Copperhead310th
09-17-2004, 10:16 PM
Bomber_Dude
None of the US Planes have a complex CEM anymore. Prop pitch is all you get. They used to but someone Ummm*OM*mmmmmm decided to remove the Manual functions and allow only Automatic engine controls. When in fact they could and did opperate on manuel controls or on automatic. was up to the individual pilot. SO SHOULD IT BE HERE. i want my manuel trubosupercharger back in my P-47. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
As for the P-38....it's OK but has problems that need to be adreesed like the one you memtioned as well as the Counter rotating props and FM performance of because of those. but that seems that is cannot be done with out a massive code re-write. and i'm sorry but i don't care who says it. IMO the the p-38 should be flying more like what i've seen ON FILM.

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