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Wseivelod
09-17-2004, 09:57 AM
.......just not this week, haha!

Ummm, seriously though. The naval museum there is a-maze-NG. They let you get up close and personal with all aircraft. There are NO barriers between you and the planes, and I'm sure they would let you snap the cockpits. They have at least on variant of almost ALL planes used by the USN.

Also, maybe I would be of some help. Ya see, I live in a crappy place called Texas, in a crappy town called Corpus Christi, and we have an eyesore called CV-16, the USS Lexington on the beach with a remaining TBD Devastator. If requested by the game developers, I might go and try to get some shots of the 'pit. It should still be in good condition, as it is on display. It is on loan from the PensaColon Naval museum.

So, game developers, post if ya want a 1st generation reference on this plane.

Wseivelod
09-17-2004, 09:57 AM
.......just not this week, haha!

Ummm, seriously though. The naval museum there is a-maze-NG. They let you get up close and personal with all aircraft. There are NO barriers between you and the planes, and I'm sure they would let you snap the cockpits. They have at least on variant of almost ALL planes used by the USN.

Also, maybe I would be of some help. Ya see, I live in a crappy place called Texas, in a crappy town called Corpus Christi, and we have an eyesore called CV-16, the USS Lexington on the beach with a remaining TBD Devastator. If requested by the game developers, I might go and try to get some shots of the 'pit. It should still be in good condition, as it is on display. It is on loan from the PensaColon Naval museum.

So, game developers, post if ya want a 1st generation reference on this plane.

MoritzJGOne
09-17-2004, 10:08 AM
Devestator? Are you sure it's not a Dauntless. The NAM has restored several ex-combat SBD's which were lost in training in the Great Lakes.

In 2000, I was with my WWI historians group and we were in their shop. There was a SBD-2 from Midway via Lake Michigan on the rack in bare metal with a bullet hole!

SKULLS_CoyMS
09-17-2004, 10:45 AM
According to the list of planes on display at the museums web site....they have a SBD-3 Dauntless and a TBM-3E Avenger...but no TBD Devastator is mentioned

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Hades_Dragon
09-17-2004, 02:09 PM
Yes, the Pensecola Naval Aviation Musuem is one of the greatest.Tons of aircraft in excellent condition and you can walk right up and touch them. Theres even a portion where it is set up like the deck of a carrier, the floor is set up just like the wooden flight deck with a low hanging Hellcat coming in to catch the wires.

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9th_Spitin
09-17-2004, 02:12 PM
My Mother in law ran the Office for the Pensecola Naval Aviation Musuem about 6 yrs ago. Too bad I lived 2400 miles away, or is it?

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|CoB|_Spectre
09-18-2004, 09:51 PM
As a former resident of Pensacola who has visited the museum many times over the years, it's distressing to read today that NAS Pensacola received damage from hurricane Ivan with initial estimates of $100 million. Those of you who've been there know the museum occupies a prime piece of real estate across from the pass (entrance to the intracoastal waterway and the Gulf of Mexico). Damage to the base, according to the C.O., was "near catastrophic". No word on the museum as yet, but the surrounding community was devastated. It will be a long time before life in that area approaches anything close to normal.

Pentallion
09-19-2004, 12:15 AM
Send some divers!

http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Devastator/devdescrip.htm

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Wseivelod
09-20-2004, 09:12 AM
The Devastator comes from Pensacola, but is displayed here in Coprus Chrispy Texas aboard the USS Lexington. In Pensacola, it is represented with a scale (1/48 or 1/72) model. The real one is on the Lex.

VF-10_Snacky
09-20-2004, 10:27 AM
I went through Aircrew and SAR school there. I've swam in that bay and run on that sea wall. Hope they are able to recover.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by |CoB|_Spectre:
As a former resident of Pensacola who has visited the museum many times over the years, it's distressing to read today that NAS Pensacola received damage from hurricane Ivan with initial estimates of $100 million. Those of you who've been there know the museum occupies a prime piece of real estate across from the pass (entrance to the intracoastal waterway and the Gulf of Mexico). Damage to the base, according to the C.O., was "near catastrophic". No word on the museum as yet, but the surrounding community was devastated. It will be a long time before life in that area approaches anything close to normal.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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609IAP_Recon
09-20-2004, 03:10 PM
That is one of my all time favorite museums - loved it!

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ivanmoe
09-20-2004, 05:10 PM
Some of this stuff really is interesting as to who's got what, once you begin digging.

For instance, this site says that the only remaining F3F is located in Pensacola:

http://www.tighar.org/Projects/Devastator/devdescrip.htm

While this one claims to have a F3F in Galveston:

http://www.lsfm.org/ls_acnfo.htm

Funny, how folks will state something so unequivocally, huh?

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MK2aw
09-20-2004, 05:37 PM
The museum,luckily, was untouched. there is a thread I started in the IL2-FB general discussion forum.

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Maj_Death
09-20-2004, 06:15 PM
Yeah, there are alot of those "this is the only one left" and the "no more exist" things out there. The F3F is indeed a rare bird, but there are several of them and the one in Galveston Texas does really exist, I've seen it and I even have some pictures of it somewhere. Its a nice looking plane and given the musuem its at, I'd bet its even airworthy.

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Kupper
09-21-2004, 06:21 AM
Moritz- that SBD-2 that you mention is now fully restored and on display. My son and I saw it last year on a trip to the area. We actually touched a combat vereran of the Battle of Midway! Absolutley awe inspiring! Hope the museum is O.K., and that the area as a whole will recover soon...

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BullShark 71
09-24-2004, 07:54 AM
Ok guys good news!(I guess)

Pensacola NAS received extensive damage but the museum is scheduled to re-open in a couple weeks I heard on the local news http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Ive seen pictures of the museum and it didnt appear to have any internal damage(I may be wrong)just a few exterior issues.