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609IAP_Recon
07-30-2004, 05:56 AM
Been waiting forever for Allied bomber - any idea of when this is coming out - or has it been canned for PF?

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609IAP_Recon
07-30-2004, 05:56 AM
Been waiting forever for Allied bomber - any idea of when this is coming out - or has it been canned for PF?

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Tooz_69GIAP
07-30-2004, 05:59 AM
PF will contain a load of bombers, and Oleg has said that work on the Italian aircraft, the Pe-2 and some others will not continue until after they are finished PF (sometime around September)

whit ye looking at, ya big jessie?!?!

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609IAP_Recon
07-30-2004, 08:39 AM
ah ok.

I was looking forward to the bombers more than PF - LOL

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jagdmailer
07-30-2004, 09:06 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 609IAP_Recon:
ah ok.

I was looking forward to the bombers more than PF - LOL

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I was looking forward to the bombers more than PF....

Welcome to the club. If you are looking for flyable allied bomber, you will probably have to buy PF anyway as many of the flyable bombers that were being done for FB in the first place were re-routed to PF......The only good side is that apparently if you own both ie. FB/AEP & PF, you will be able to use the PF bombers that were initially destined for FB (ie. Flyable B-25s, A-20, B-26, Beaufighter....) in FB European theatres.

I just hope Oleg has planned to have Starshoy make the FB/AEP offline dynamic campaigns feature the PF aircrafts that flew in Europe.....ie. B-24s, B-25s, B-26s, A-20s, Beaufighters......for the people that will have the FB/AEP/PF combo installed on their computer.

Ah, also, since we are can land on aircraft carriers, and that we have folding wings for naval aircrafts, I hope that we will have some bonus content in the Graf Zeppelin by Air_hog (done in October 2003), Bf 109T-1s and Ju 87C-0s for 1941 scenarios.......

Cheers,

Jagd

crazyivan1970
07-30-2004, 10:08 AM
I`m afraid there will be no bombers until PF is released Rec, Oleg kind of said that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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JG7_Rall
07-30-2004, 10:14 AM
Wait, there will be bombers only in PF or a bomber patch will be released after PF is released? If bombers are only in PF that's kinda cheating out all those guys who want bombers so desperatly (a certain character comes to mind....what was his name again? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) but now have to buy a whole other game just to get them.

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crazyivan1970
07-30-2004, 10:18 AM
Relax Rall http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif , Oleg made it clear that JU-88 and Pe-2 will see a day light, neither are PF planes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif There are couple of others that might make it. But i can`t speak of something i don`t know for sure http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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jagdmailer
07-30-2004, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
Wait, there will be bombers only in PF or a bomber patch will be released after PF is released? If bombers are only in PF that's kinda cheating out all those guys who want bombers so desperatly (a certain character comes to mind....what was his name again? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) but now have to buy a whole other game just to get them.

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Yep. Bombers ie (B-24,B-25, B-26, A-20, Beaufighters, ......) mostly all in PF for now. Ju 88s & Pe-2 I recon in patch after PF is released. Feb 2005 ?

Jagd

609IAP_Recon
07-30-2004, 03:06 PM
So, the bomber patch is no longer before PF, but after PF - and we are buying PF to get bombers. Sounds like $$$ - but that is ok, I will be buying it - again, I would have paid more for bombers before PF http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I recalled a different story before, but guess I'm wrong http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"but now have to buy a whole other game just to get them."

At least you can install PF with AEP now - if they didn't do that, I would have been majorly disapointed - because I think FB (FB, before AEP) has been screwed out of the bombers they should have had a year ago (pe2, ju88) for eastern front.

(I think with 1C getting that before all this other stuff would have made more sense from day one. But misplaced priorities changed with AEP when we no longer had a eastern front - but at least they seem to have improved this view with PF by releasing flyable bombers)


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jagdmailer
07-30-2004, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 609IAP_Recon:
So, the bomber patch is no longer before PF, but after PF - and we are buying PF to get bombers. Sounds like $$$ - but that is ok, I will be buying it - again, I would have paid more for bombers before PF http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I recalled a different story before, but guess I'm wrong http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

"but now have to buy a whole other game just to get them."

At least you can install PF with AEP now - if they didn't do that, I would have been majorly disapointed - because I think FB has been screwed out of the bombers they should have had a year ago (pe2, ju88) for eastern front.



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So, the bomber patch is no longer before PF, but after PF - and we are buying PF to get bombers

You got it bro. I am in the same boat. If I want A-20 & B-26 as target over the Eastern Front or BoE maps, then I have to cought up the dought and get PF.....

I do not really have a problem with paying....the only thing that pi$$es me off is that I will have to put up with the PF menues for my FB/AEP....I hate sushi.....I hope Oleg will make alternate menues available cause that will trully suck.

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PE_Sushi
07-30-2004, 04:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I hate sushi.....
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jagdmailer
07-30-2004, 05:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PE_Sushi:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I hate sushi.....
JagdMailer<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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and don't you folks forget there's a DO-17Z model almost done, waiting for a 3rd party modeller to finish the job in order to get it included as AI http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LoL....I knew this was gonna come after I posted it.....no offence to you PE_Sushi.....

Just meant that I would hate to have to put up with Pacific Fighter ie. Sushi... menues for my FB/AEP/ and I guess PF install.

And YES, the cleaned-up Do 17Z-2 mesh is still available for someone talented and motivated to finish.

Cheers,

Jagd

JG7_Rall
07-30-2004, 06:31 PM
Well I'm buying PF anyways so it makes no difference to me! I was just thinking about all those bomber guys tho http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Alexander_Seil
07-30-2004, 07:33 PM
This game simply NEEDS more Soviet bombers...

At any rate, I hope that the fact that no work on that supposed bomber pack/patch will get done on Oleg's side for a couple of months will give modellers some time to cram even more models in. Something like an Il-4/DB/SB would be nice.

Montgomery Python
07-30-2004, 07:56 PM
Menus are apparently easy to change graphics for... I can't remember how to do it myself, and I can't find any suitable graphics in my install to swap, but someone said it reasonably recently http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Well, there's IL2DCG for dynamic campaigns, which should support all the new planes fairly quickly.

LEXX_Luthor
07-30-2004, 09:04 PM
At one time, crazyivan said... <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Bomber CD<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just look at the Numbers, there will be more New Flyables than came on AEP CD. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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609IAP_Recon
07-31-2004, 10:58 AM
Where is an official list of flyables for PF?

I've seen things change before... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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NegativeGee
07-31-2004, 11:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 609IAP_Recon:
Where is an official list of flyables for PF?
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Let us know if you find one http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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VF-17_Jolly
07-31-2004, 12:12 PM
I don`t mind paying for any of it I just want it yesterday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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IVJG51_Swine
07-31-2004, 09:34 PM
All I have to say is that I hope IL-2/FB remains a priority, the Eastern/Western Front is the best theatre for air combat period in my book....

Good post Recon, we need better Allied bombers..
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woofiedog
08-01-2004, 01:35 AM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gifThe missing Flyable Bombers are about the last thing we need for Forgotten Battles... along with a Malta or Medd Map.
And a few more French and Italian Aircraft. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif
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Carnage2681
08-01-2004, 05:08 AM
Can we really believe in a release of PF in September ? This would be great.

I‚¬īm have enough problems with a lot of things in FB ( look my MF thread, AI Sniper gunner, FM of Fw190 etc ) but i really looking foward to fly the Corsair and a realistic (!) Zero.

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609IAP_Recon
08-01-2004, 09:30 AM
September? I'd say more like Christmas time

I picture that if all the time was spent on modifying the engine of IL2 instead on making the eastern front complete with flyable aircraft - I'd have been pretty happy.

The only big plus from IL2 to FB was the native trackir support.

Make sense?

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PE_Sushi
08-01-2004, 02:05 PM
IIRC we also got CEM in FB ?

I would also like to have a flyable genuine soviet medium bomber IL-4 would be fine (SB-2 also)
unfortunately I don't think any 3rd party modeller is working on these, and I don't even know if enough reference is available to build cockpits

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Tooz_69GIAP
08-01-2004, 10:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carnage2681:
Can we really believe in a release of PF in September ? This would be great.

I‚¬īm have enough problems with a lot of things in FB ( look my MF thread, AI Sniper gunner, FM of Fw190 etc ) but i really looking foward to fly the Corsair and a realistic (!) Zero.

Looking "Pazifik Geschwader 214" ( believe "Black Sheeps" in original) every evening it cames when i was in the 1 - 4 class http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1C are hoping to have PF finished by Septmber. But that doesn't mean that it will be released in September. It has to be sent to UBI for testing, and so they can add all their nifty anti crack software, and bollox like that, and then sort out marketing, and then actually print the CDs and ship it all out to the retailers, then release it.

I'd say a late November release if they do it in time for X-mas.

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609IAP_Recon
08-02-2004, 12:13 PM
yeah, that is right sushi.

I actually really enjoy AEP myself.

I like it so much I want more and more http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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jagdmailer
08-02-2004, 12:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tooz_69GIAP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Carnage2681:
Can we really believe in a release of PF in September ? This would be great.

I‚¬īm have enough problems with a lot of things in FB ( look my MF thread, AI Sniper gunner, FM of Fw190 etc ) but i really looking foward to fly the Corsair and a realistic (!) Zero.

Looking "Pazifik Geschwader 214" ( believe "Black Sheeps" in original) every evening it cames when i was in the 1 - 4 class http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1C are hoping to have PF finished by Septmber. But that doesn't mean that it will be released in September. It has to be sent to UBI for testing, and so they can add all their nifty anti crack software, and bollox like that, and then sort out marketing, and then actually print the CDs and ship it all out to the retailers, then release it.

I'd say a late November release if they do it in time for X-mas.

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EB Games in canada have an October 8th release date for PF. Chances are there will be a 2 weeks delay ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif but that is just what they told me anyways.

Jagd

Thud-487BS
08-02-2004, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crazyivan1970:
I`m afraid there will be no bombers until PF is released Rec, Oleg kind of said that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's very disapointing news to me. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I really hope the Allied bomber issue is re-addressed.

Busysilent1
08-02-2004, 03:27 PM
A very respected modeler told to another modeler on Russian forum that unless he can finish/submit to Oleg all modeling within a month, he should not bother starting one.

609IAP_Recon
08-03-2004, 01:56 PM
different subject, but I would just assume purchase the game online and dload it then wait for all that retail ****

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08-03-2004, 02:13 PM
Bring on the Viermott!!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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PE_Sushi
08-09-2004, 02:57 AM
I will bump this one !
Bombers/attack planes add lot more to the gameplay than just another fighter (although the Fokker DXXI is missing bad), especialy when they can be used both as dive/level bomber.

Soon we'll have new bombers from PF, and hopefully after this flyable Pe-2 and Ju-88 (completed), and we can thank Agamemnon22 and Jippo for these http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Maybe we'll also get Hs129 : it's cockpit is currently being worked at.

But now we know 95% sure that PF and FB+AEP will be compliant, we can say that new planes can be added for as long as PF is supported, maybe it's last chance to see some planes, at least as AI only whose modelling has already began (mostly externals) and stopped for some reasons. It would be a shame to loose work already done on :

IL-10
He-177
Ju-188
Do-17
Do-217

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triggerhappyfin
08-09-2004, 05:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-17_JOLLY:
I don`t mind paying for any of it I just want it yesterday http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Tater-SW-
08-09-2004, 08:25 AM
I'd think they'd move heaven and earth to get it closer to the stated October release date. Late November is too late for a strong Christmas showing, and a large % of games are sold during the Christmas season. They can always patch it.

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