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FW190fan
01-25-2004, 05:50 PM
Go here:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/733.html

Great work by Jippo, Dietger, and Hammerd.

The Ju88 is looking fantastic. This plane is going to be a blast to fly!

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

FW190fan
01-25-2004, 05:50 PM
Go here:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/733.html

Great work by Jippo, Dietger, and Hammerd.

The Ju88 is looking fantastic. This plane is going to be a blast to fly!

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

LeadSpitter_
01-25-2004, 06:04 PM
yeah looks great seen it the other day

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Willy_Wombat
01-25-2004, 06:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
yeah looks great seen it the other day
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah looks great SAW it the other day

WW

VW-IceFire
01-25-2004, 09:03 PM
Gramar police out in force I see http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Yeah amazing work has been done putting that Ju-88 together. When she's flyable I think there will be alot of rejoicing going on over how well it was put together and how useful to have this plane will be.

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FW190fan
01-26-2004, 08:40 AM
The cockpit of the Ju88 has got to be the most complex in the sim. That thing is off the hook.

Much thanks to Jippo, Dietger, and Hammerd for this work of art.

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

269GA-Veltro
01-26-2004, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FW190fan:
The cockpit of the Ju88 has got to be the most complex in the sim. That thing is off the hook.

Much thanks to Jippo, Dietger, and Hammerd for this work of art.

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well said! This is really a work of art! Can't wait for it.

269GA~Veltro
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FW190fan
01-26-2004, 08:58 AM
Here's some cool Ju88 pics from Rod's Warbirds:

http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/JU88-98.jpg
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/JU88-48.jpg
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/JU88-5s.jpg
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/JU88-64.jpg


This one with Me109 escort is really cool:

http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/ju88a.jpg

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

horseback
01-26-2004, 09:23 AM
Gorgeous! Now, where the H is my Zerstorer version so I can have half a chance against the heavies' sniper gunners?

NOTE: The true test of a pessimist is not whether the glass is half empty or half full, but rather, what it is half empty or full OF.

Cheers

horseback

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FW190fan
01-26-2004, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
Gorgeous! Now, where the H is my Zerstorer version so I can have half a chance against the heavies' sniper gunners?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol, I'd like to fly the trainbuster Ju88s they used on the eastern front.

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

F19_Olli72
01-26-2004, 09:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
Gorgeous! Now, where the H is my Zerstorer version so I can have half a chance against the heavies' sniper gunners?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You mean this one? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW/Ju88-C6-12s.jpg

jamesdietz
01-26-2004, 09:42 AM
Very Nice - any chance of making the "88" into a night fighter varient???

Jippo01
01-26-2004, 09:54 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FW190fan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by horseback:
Gorgeous! Now, where the H is my Zerstorer version so I can have half a chance against the heavies' sniper gunners?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
lol, I'd like to fly the trainbuster Ju88s they used on the eastern front.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


So you should really like these old update screenshots from inside a "will be flyable" Ju-88 C-6?

http://www.kolumbus.fi/jan.niukkanen/c6update.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/jan.niukkanen/c6update2.jpg

Ju-88 C6 references here:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/germany/junkers/ju_88/Ju_88_nf.htm

http://www.ahost4u.com/~pauke/aircraft/ju88.html#Ju88C6


It will be published simultaneously (most likely) with other Ju-88 variants. It will have no radar and is actually a dayfighter / destroyer variant. But this variant was also extensively used as a nightfighter in the east front. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


-jippo

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http://www.lelv28.com

Falkster's Ju-88 fan site:
www.ju88.de.tf (http://www.ju88.de.tf)

FW190fan
01-26-2004, 10:18 AM
Thanks Jippo for dropping by.

The work you guys have put into the Ju88 is amazing, a labor of love I suppose? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

We would love to read about your progress here if you have the time...

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

Boandlgramer
01-26-2004, 10:27 AM
Thank you very much , Jippo , Dietger and Hammerd for your awesome work,
and of course oleg , to make the ju88 flyable .

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horseback
01-26-2004, 10:30 AM
My day is complete-thanks, Jippo

Cheers

horseback

"Here's your new Mustangs, boys. You can learn to fly'em on the way to the target. Cheers!" -LTCOL Don Blakeslee, 4th FG CO, February 27th, 1944

crazyivan1970
01-26-2004, 10:31 AM
Some incredible talented people in this community. wow

V!
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Zayets
01-26-2004, 11:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Willy_Wombat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
yeah looks great seen it the other day
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah looks great SAW it the other day

WW<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh,shut up! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

Zayets out

Oso2323
01-26-2004, 11:27 AM
Was the c-6 used mostly on the Russian front? Where else were they used?

Cheers.

Jippo01
01-26-2004, 11:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oso2323:
Was the c-6 used mostly on the Russian front? Where else were they used?

Cheers.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


It was nearly everywhere Germans went, but basically in the Bay of Biscay as a long range fighter against Beaufighters and Mosquitos, over the continental Germany as a nighfighter, in Russia as a traindestroyer far behined the lines and also as nightfighter.

LeLv28 - Fighting for independency since 2002
http://www.lelv28.com

Falkster's Ju-88 fan site:
www.ju88.de.tf (http://www.ju88.de.tf)

Jippo01
01-26-2004, 12:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FW190fan:
We would love to read about your progress here if you have the time...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

We have A-4 and A-14 up to 95% done. A-13 will add one or two days to that, while C-6 will take a week or two more. Then we have couple of small surprises which will progress with these mentioned.

And on top of that all the research and translation work of documents is already done, and already sent to Maddox Games.

Couple months of importing to engine and playtesting & we're there. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


-jippo

LeLv28 - Fighting for independency since 2002
http://www.lelv28.com

Falkster's Ju-88 fan site:
www.ju88.de.tf (http://www.ju88.de.tf)

SeaFireLIV
01-26-2004, 12:23 PM
These will be fun to shoot down. Though I suspect not quite as easy as it is against the AI.

Nice work anyway.

SeaFireLIV...

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Crazy_Goanna
01-26-2004, 12:29 PM
Fantastic work commendable art work and modelling
"Hats Off" to all of you,can't wait to play with them.

Insuber
01-26-2004, 02:10 PM
Very nice indeed. Just a question: how many manhours are going into a model like this?

Keep up the good work.

Regards,
Insuber

Wannabe-Pilot
01-26-2004, 03:00 PM
I've read a lot of posts concerning new aircraft and by now I'm completely confused. I don't know which updates/addons are due to be released, when and what are they called. Can somebody please explain it to me like I'm a three year old: how many additional aircraft will we get a chance of flying in the forseeable future? When and where can I download these addons? And is there perhaps a flyable Hs-129, Me-410 or any nightfighter variant in the works?

Gibbage1
01-26-2004, 03:22 PM
Its looking good. Almost good enough to make me want to fly it...... But no. I will stick with the B-25 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FW190fan:
Go here:

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/733.html

Great work by Jippo, Dietger, and Hammerd.

The Ju88 is looking fantastic. This plane is going to be a blast to fly!

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oso2323
01-26-2004, 03:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wannabe-Pilot:
Can somebody please explain it to me like I'm a three year old: how many additional aircraft will we get a chance of flying in the forseeable future? When and where can I download these addons? And is there perhaps a flyable Hs-129, Me-410 or any nightfighter variant in the works?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do a search on my name - I posted a list of the official add-on planes a few weeks ago. These add-ons will be sold via cd.

Check out http://jg777.com/il2 for planes that are in the works. Most will not be ready for a while. There are no flyable Hs-129 or nightfighters in the works.


As written by Icefire:
Aces Expansion Pack (AEP) - Coming from the makers of Forgotten Battles. Maddox games has new missions, campaigns, and aircraft. Unknown as to if there are new maps and what the final list of aircraft will be.

Battle Over Europe - Coming from JustFlight. They are a Third Party group putting together what ammounts to a collection of new skins, single player missions, and several campaigns. The campaign generator has apparently recieved a impressive upgrade to it as well.

Unknown Expansion - This is the one that is being put together by a Third Party with sanctioning of Maddox. They have the terrain building tool and will be adding what we understand may be a new theater (Speculation range from the Pacific to more of Western Europe). Unknown at this point what will ultimately happen.

FW190fan
01-26-2004, 09:19 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jippo01:

We have A-4 and A-14 up to 95% done. A-13 will add one or two days to that, while C-6 will take a week or two more. Then we have couple of small surprises which will progress with these mentioned.

And on top of that all the research and translation work of documents is already done, and already sent to Maddox Games.

Couple months of importing to engine and playtesting & we're there. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


-jippo
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Wow, that is alot of work.

It also looks like the body of the Ju-88 itself has gotten a facelift? Did you guys re-do the tires as well?

http://people.aero.und.edu/~choma/lrg0645.jpg

Wannabe-Pilot
01-27-2004, 07:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oso2323:
Check out http://jg777.com/il2 for planes that are in the works. Most will not be ready for a while. There are no flyable Hs-129 or nightfighters in the works.
As written by Icefire:
Aces Expansion Pack (AEP) - Coming from the makers of Forgotten Battles. Maddox games has new missions, campaigns, and aircraft. Unknown as to if there are new maps and what the final list of aircraft will be.

Battle Over Europe - Coming from JustFlight. They are a Third Party group putting together what ammounts to a collection of new skins, single player missions, and several campaigns. The campaign generator has apparently recieved a impressive upgrade to it as well.

Unknown Expansion - This is the one that is being put together by a Third Party with sanctioning of Maddox. They have the terrain building tool and will be adding what we understand may be a new theater (Speculation range from the Pacific to more of Western Europe). Unknown at this point what will ultimately happen.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, first of all thanks for the info. I've checked the site you recommended and I'm blown away. These guys are moddeling almost every plane worth flying (including my favourite Me-410). Now for more questions.
Aces expansion pack, if I've understood correctly, is coming sometime during February. What about Battle over Europe and this unknown third expansion? Does anybody have an idea when they'll be done? I just want to have a clear picture of what's coming and when, that's all. And which one of the forthcoming expansions will feature planes from the site you recommended?

Jippo01
01-27-2004, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Insuber:
Very nice indeed. Just a question: how many manhours are going into a model like this?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ju-88 is rather difficult to do because of the initial lack of resources and complicted pit where 4 men fought in a single space.

I have estimated over 500 hours on it (could be 700 for all I know), and also Dietger and Hammerd have very significant hours put in it as well of which I have no idea of the quantity. Research alone has been some 1500-2000km in car going to places, at least 4 trips to museums, help from countless contributors in the form of photos, scanned documents and expertise something like 20-30 books read, about 5 manuals (not complete though) of different variants gone through in German (in which I suck at) and Finnish (which I'm good at http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ). And some other stuff too.

But as I said this one was bit tricky to do, and most of the parts have been basically redone three or four times because I found them incorrectly done (shape, size, or something else), or I just came up with a smarter way of doing them for a computer game (I'm kinda new in low poly modeling).


But most of them are a bit easier. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And of course not all would spend or even need to spend such time digging for the resources which has taken really a lot of my time.


-jippo

LeLv28 - Fighting for independency since 2002
http://www.lelv28.com

Falkster's Ju-88 fan site:
www.ju88.de.tf (http://www.ju88.de.tf)

LilHorse
01-27-2004, 12:27 PM
Wow! Nice work. I might actually learn how to work two engines just so I can fly that beastie http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

Insuber
01-27-2004, 02:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jippo01:
Ju-88 is rather difficult to do because of the initial lack of resources and complicted pit where 4 men fought in a single space.

I have estimated over 500 hours on it (could be 700 for all I know), and also Dietger and Hammerd have very significant hours put in it as well of which I have no idea of the quantity. Research alone has been some 1500-2000km in car going to places, at least 4 trips to museums, help from countless contributors in the form of photos, scanned documents and expertise something like 20-30 books read, about 5 manuals (not complete though) of different variants gone through in German (in which I suck at) and Finnish (which I'm good at http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ). And some other stuff too.

-jippo

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, congrats ! I'd dream to work on a project like this. I just lack time, capabilities, knowledge, freedom of action (funny enough, wives are often jealous of planes).

Regards,
Insuber