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Davinci..
06-20-2004, 10:20 PM
As some of you are probably aware, in a matter of hours, "space ship one" and its pilot, will make its first attempt at a sub orbital flight. Becomming the first manned non government craft to reach space.
Crazy, isnt it.. Most of us probably grew up draming about flying planes.. Thanks to this our children will probably grow up draming about flying space ships.
I find it remarkable how far we've come in just over a hundred years, from our first flight into the air, to a time where flight into space is no longer just a dream. Its a shame so much aviations innovation came through war, heck even "space ship one" probably owes some of its exsitance to the work of von Braun. Regardless, i hope all goes well, and this becomes as big and important a success as the spirit of St. Louis was all those years ago.

To space ship one and her pilot, good luck and gods speed.

Davinci..
06-20-2004, 10:20 PM
As some of you are probably aware, in a matter of hours, "space ship one" and its pilot, will make its first attempt at a sub orbital flight. Becomming the first manned non government craft to reach space.
Crazy, isnt it.. Most of us probably grew up draming about flying planes.. Thanks to this our children will probably grow up draming about flying space ships.
I find it remarkable how far we've come in just over a hundred years, from our first flight into the air, to a time where flight into space is no longer just a dream. Its a shame so much aviations innovation came through war, heck even "space ship one" probably owes some of its exsitance to the work of von Braun. Regardless, i hope all goes well, and this becomes as big and important a success as the spirit of St. Louis was all those years ago.

To space ship one and her pilot, good luck and gods speed.

Gibbage1
06-20-2004, 11:33 PM
I think its more owed to Dr. Goddard and not von Braun. Goddard invented, built, and launched the first liquid rocket engine. The one in the V2 was a copy of Goddards engine.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Its a shame so much aviations innovation came through war, heck even "space ship one" probably owes some of its exsitance to the work of von Braun. Regardless, i hope all goes well, and this becomes as big and important a success as the spirit of St. Louis was all those years ago.

To space ship one and her pilot, good luck and gods speed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

tenmmike
06-20-2004, 11:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
I think its more owed to Dr. Goddard and not von Braun. Goddard invented, built, and launched the first liquid rocket engine. The one in the V2 was a copy of Goddards engine.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Its a shame so much aviations innovation came through war, heck even "space ship one" probably owes some of its exsitance to the work of von Braun. Regardless, i hope all goes well, and this becomes as big and important a success as the spirit of St. Louis was all those years ago.

To space ship one and her pilot, good luck and gods speed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>the v-2 engine was not a copy of goddered's engins in any way or form other then it was liquid fueled

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Gibbage1
06-20-2004, 11:47 PM
In 1909, Robert H. Goddard, an American who was later called "The Father of Modern Rocketry", began his study of liquid propellant rockets. In 1912, he proved that rockets would work in a vacuum. In 1918, the U.S. Army Signal Corps commissioned Dr. Goddard to develop a military rocket and study long range solid fuel bombardment rockets. In November 1918, Dr. Goddard demonstrated a recoilless rocket to the Army at Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland. The end of World War I ended Army funding of Dr. Goddard's research. In 1919, Goddard published A Method of Attaining Extreme Altitude, while studying for his doctorate at Clark University in Worcester, MA. This paper laid the theoretical foundation for future rocket development in the United States. It also mentioned that a rocket could be flown to the Moon as a demonstration. In 1919, the public considered this absurd and dismissed him as a "crackpot." After that he rarely sought publicity for his accomplishments. On March 16, 1926, Dr. Goddard launched the first liquidÔ┬*fueled rocket at a farm in Auburn, MA. The strange looking vehicle rose to a height of only 41 feet (12.5 m) and landed 184 feet (56 m) away, all in 2.5 seconds. In 1928, Dr. Goddard launched an improved version which was the first rocket to contain weather instruments. This vehicle rose to a maximum altitude of 90 feet and the instruments landed by parachute. In 1930, Dr. Goddard moved his operation to Roswell, New Mexico. In May 1935, he succeeded in launching a liquid fueled rocket which had gyro controlled exhaust vanes to an altitude of 7,500 feet (2,300 m). Until his death in 1945, Dr. Goddard continued to work on a number of improvements to his rockets, most of which were technological firsts. Goddard developed gyroÔ┬*control guidance systems, gimbaled nozzles, small high speed centrifugal pumps, and variable thrust rocket engines and had received more than 200 other rocket patents. All these are used in one form or another on today's modern rockets. '

Many many many of those patents were used in the V2 like the gyrocontrol and nozzle fins.

In 1932, Wernher von Braun was hired by the German Army to develop liquid fuel rockets, which led to the development of the Aggregate or "A" series of rockets. In 1934, an A2 rocket was successfully launched to an altitude of 1.5 miles. The A2 led to the development of larger rockets. In 1937, Von Braun and his development team moved to a peninsula on the Baltic coast near the small town of Peenem├╝nde in northern Germany. In that same year, Dr. Goddard tested a rocket with a movable exhaust nozzle and tilting vanes. Von Braun used this technology to develop larger German rockets.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

1.JaVA_Razer
06-21-2004, 04:13 AM
Dudes, you mind taking the Von Braun/goddard thing outside?
This was about airship one,not who envented the thing's engine

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AirBot
06-21-2004, 05:27 AM
I wish the pilot luck.

It's truly an exciting step forward. I hope it goes well.

RAF74Leadfinger
06-21-2004, 06:07 AM
Here's the website for Scaled Composites (kinda slow today for obvious reasons).

www.scaled.com (http://www.scaled.com)

Here's a link to a FAQ about SpaceShip One, which includes info about its hybrid rocket engine.

http://www.scaled.com/projects/tierone/faq.htm

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georgeo76
06-21-2004, 09:14 AM
Just heard on CNN that the attempt was unsuccessful due to the rocket burning out too soon. maybe next time.

wickedpenguin
06-21-2004, 09:18 AM
Nope - it made it just fine from what **** Rutan just said on MSNBC.com. No word on the engine shutoff reasons, but they did break 100km. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Very, very exciting stuff.

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BpGemini
06-21-2004, 09:20 AM
Good luck to BlitzPig_Groucho and the rest of the Scaled Composites team!

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AWL_Spinner
06-21-2004, 09:24 AM
Reuters and BBC both reporting it made 100km.

Also just watched it touch down, beautiful!

Cheers, Spinner

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BpGemini
06-21-2004, 09:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by georgeo76:
Just heard on CNN that the attempt was unsuccessful due to the rocket burning out too soon. maybe next time.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wrong! They did it.

CNN Breaking News
-- SpaceShipOne, first private manned rocket ship, briefly entered space today.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/06/21/suborbital.test/index.html

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georgeo76
06-21-2004, 10:16 AM
wow! bite my head off why don't ya http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The news of failure was obviously premature, but @ the time that's what was being reported.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>-Gemini
Wrong! they did it.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BpGemini
06-21-2004, 10:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by georgeo76:
wow! bite my head off why don't ya http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The news of failure was obviously premature, but @ the time that's what was being reported.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>-Gemini
Wrong! they did it.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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Sorry.... just got excited. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Mispunt
06-21-2004, 10:45 AM
Sorry....

I think the climb rate of SpaceShipOne is grosly overmodelled.

uhm...
Anyway, hats off. Great stuff!

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rummyrum
06-21-2004, 11:46 AM
Wow! Truely Amazing, Truely Historical.

9./JG54 Rummy

darkhorizon11
06-21-2004, 01:35 PM
Yeah def. its awesome stuff! I hear somebody is modeling it for the next addon. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/mockface.gif

tttiger
06-21-2004, 01:51 PM
In a sim that appears dominated by pilots who have barely reached puberty, it is perhaps worthy of note that the space ship's test pilot is 62 years old http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(No sim flying until your homework is done, children...)

And all that money Paul Allen made from Microsoft actually is being put to some good use (other than buying third-rate NBA teams)...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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BpGemini
06-21-2004, 01:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
In a sim that appears dominated by pilots who have barely reached puberty, it is perhaps worthy of note that the space ship's test pilot is 62 years old http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

And all that money Paul Allen made from Microsoft actually is being put to some good use...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Last time we checked the average age of IL-2 players/forum browsers was mid-30's. The pube comment would probably fit the CFS crowd perfectly though.

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tttiger
06-21-2004, 02:08 PM
LOL, Gemini

The more I read these boards and the chat in HL, the more comments I see about getting home from high school or having to go study for a college exam.

Don't get me wrong: I think it's great!

It also explains, in part, why there often is a generational disagreement on topics in here (a generation is 20 years, for you youngsters). Geezers like me are two generations or more apart from those younger pilots. They view WWII like I view the Civil War, something in the distant past. I grew up with WWII vets (and victims) all around me. Makes a big difference on how you see things.

Don't want to hijack this thread...Today's flight was truly extraordinary! S!

Aloha,

ttt

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[This message was edited by tttiger on Mon June 21 2004 at 01:18 PM.]

ElAurens
06-21-2004, 02:16 PM
An amazing accomplishment. Hats off to all those at Scaled, including our own BlitzPig_Groucho.

All your flight regimes belong to the BlitzPigs...Be Sure!

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BpGemini
06-21-2004, 02:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tttiger:
LOL, Gemini

The more I read these boards and the chat in HL, the more comments I see about getting home from high school or having to go study for a college exam.

Don't get me wrong: I think it's great!

It also explains, in part, why there often is a generational disagreement on topics in here (a generation is 20 years, for you youngsters). Geezers like me are two generations or more apart from those younger pilots. They view WWII like I view the Civil War, something in the distant past. I grew up with WWII vets (and victims) all around me. Makes a big difference on how you view things.

Don't want to hijack this thread...Today's flight was truly extraordinary! S!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah I often ask Waz or g00se what it was like to be in the Civil War.

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Btw, Groucho is at CWoS http://acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25349&start=90
If anyone wants to congrat him and scaled.

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BpGemini
06-21-2004, 02:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
An amazing accomplishment. Hats off to all those at Scaled, including our own BlitzPig_Groucho.

All your flight regimes belong to the BlitzPigs...__Be Sure!__

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I got tickled when I remembered what was written on that rocket nozzle.

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Dora-9
06-22-2004, 02:31 AM
Hats off to the incredible achievment of the team of Burt Rutan and the pilot Mike Melville. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

What did the US government spend for the X-15 program back then in the sixties ?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
In 1909, Robert H. Goddard, an American ... blah blah blah ...
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Your falsifikation of history, or you may call it your limited american point of view, about rocketery, is worst than the badest sowjet propaganda in the coldest time of the cold war.
None the less, a little bit facts, a lot of ignorance, quite a bit nonsense and a complete lack of a historical background make an interesting to read story. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Sowjet, you know, that "empire-of-evil-thingie". http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

You may take the follow points into your factbook:

- americans didn't invent the fire.
- americans didn't invent the wheel.
- americans didn't invent the gunpowder.
- americans didn't invent the electricity.
- americans didn't invent the automobile.
- americans didn't invent the aircraft.
- americans didn't invent the computer.

and

- americans didn't invent the rocket.

All the above mentioned inventions once were claimed by the sowjets. But this was just stupid propaganda. Don't step into their footprints. Pretty please !

Otherwise ... your always good for a good laugh !

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OSSI
06-22-2004, 03:25 AM
and americans didn't invent the:

- Microwave
- Television
- Telephone
- Railway
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BpGemini
06-22-2004, 09:42 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dora-9:
You may take the follow points into your factbook:

- americans didn't invent the fire.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I seriously doubt you were present for this event.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dora-9:
- americans didn't invent the wheel.
- americans didn't invent the gunpowder.
- americans didn't invent the electricity.
- americans didn't invent the automobile.
- americans didn't invent the aircraft.
- americans didn't invent the computer.

and

- americans didn't invent the rocket.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


As for the rest of these, we made/make/do them better regardless of who gets credit for the invention. And that goes for anymore you want to bring to the table.

Frankly I don't care who's butt hairs caught on fire to claim fire as their invention, it's the guy who takes the fire and uses it to cook with or forge new weapons that should get the most kudos.

You could say we're the kings of innovation if not invention. Just because you don't like what one American says it doesn't mean it's wise to shake the whole hive.

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Dora-9
06-22-2004, 11:14 AM
Good reply, BpGemini ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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BpGemini
06-22-2004, 11:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dora-9:
Good reply, BpGemini ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://www.i-sol.ch/secret/dora-9_sig.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
06-22-2004, 02:24 PM
I may be mistaken but wasnt X-plane by Austin Meyer (hope I spelt that right) used in the early simulation of this flight? Either way its a fantastic achievment Congratulations Guys.

And on the point of who did it first I think the Chinese beatus all on rocket technology ...no??

Locust_
06-22-2004, 03:05 PM
You may take the follow points into your factbook:

- americans didn't invent the fire.
- americans didn't invent the wheel.
- americans didn't invent the gunpowder.
- americans didn't invent the electricity.
- americans didn't invent the automobile.
- americans didn't invent the aircraft.
- americans didn't invent the computer.

and

- americans didn't invent the rocket.
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BpGemini
06-23-2004, 10:40 AM
Dat twas a cool spot on Leno ja. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

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Gibbage1
06-23-2004, 12:13 PM
WTF? You drag this cat out and beat it after it died? Your such a troll.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dora-9:

Your falsifikation of history, or you may call it your limited american point of view, about rocketery, is worst than the badest sowjet propaganda in the coldest time of the cold war.
None the less, a little bit facts, a lot of ignorance, quite a bit nonsense and a complete lack of a historical background make an interesting to read story. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wrong. The guy was giving GERMANS the credit for space ship one saying it owes some of its existance to von Braun. I was saying it owed more to Dr Goddard who was FIRST with the liquid fuel rocket. THATS THE TRUTH! American or not. Also von Braun used many of Dr Goddards pattents for the famous V2. Im not being nationalistic. Im pointing out the truth. Davinci was being nationalistic giving credit to von Braun who did NOT invent the liquid rocket, but only used Goddards work to make the V2 weapons.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
You may take the follow points into your factbook:

- americans didn't invent the fire.
- americans didn't invent the wheel.
- americans didn't invent the gunpowder.
- americans didn't invent the electricity.
- americans didn't invent the automobile.
- americans didn't invent the aircraft.
- americans didn't invent the computer.

and

- americans didn't invent the rocket.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DID I SAY AND OF THIS? QUOTE ME!!! Quote me were I said American's invented any of these. Your trolling up the wrong tree here.

BTW. Fire and Electricity were never invented, but discovered since it already existed.

Go troll elsewere.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Gibbage1
06-23-2004, 12:24 PM
Why is it you guys get a big hair up your collective butts when I try to give credit were credit is due? von Braun clearly did not invent the liquid rocket motor, Dr. Goddard did. Thats the truth. Nothing americanistic about it.

Its funny. Here at the Ubi-zoo forums everyone can give Germans credit for everything like rockets, stealth, flying wings, and nobody bats an eye or calls them nationalistic. But when someone tries to correct them with the truth, they are being "Americanistic"? Thats BS. Thats purley biest in every way. Are we supposed to just sit idly and accept these falsifications of history, or risk being called nationalistic? NO! No american would. No frenchman would if these forum jockey's took credit for the Ifle tower. No Britin would sit around and let them give credit to the jet engine without mentioning Whittle.

Dont cry "nationalistic" or "Americanistic" but its the truth. Pure and simple. If you want to give Germany the credit for things they did not invent, then YOUR the one being nationalistic. Not the people trying to point out the truth.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OSSI:
and americans didn't invent the:

- Microwave
- Television
- Telephone
- Railway
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/10.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Bo_Nidle
06-23-2004, 12:29 PM
Very impressive achievement.Hats off to the pilot.

I noticed he didn't have a pressure suit?Or even an inanimate carbon rod?!!

And why did he take M&Ms?If he took ants then we could have found out if they could have been taught to sort out tiny screws in a weightless enviroment!

(Had to laugh at how quickly this initially went OT).



Bo_Nidle

"You've got to treat your kite like you treat your woman.Get inside her five times a day and take her to Heaven and back"
Lord Flashheart RFC 1917

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke

Gibbage1
06-23-2004, 12:38 PM
The Simpons referance. DOH!!!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
Very impressive achievement.Hats off to the pilot.

I noticed he didn't have a pressure suit?Or even an inanimate carbon rod?!!

And why did he take M&Ms?If he took ants then we could have found out if they could have been taught to sort out tiny screws in a weightless enviroment!

(Had to laugh at how quickly this initially went OT).



Bo_Nidle

"You've got to treat your kite like you treat your woman.Get inside her five times a day and take her to Heaven and back"
Lord Flashheart RFC 1917

"All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

Graugrun
06-23-2004, 12:45 PM
Yes, congratulations to all involved!!

I was also pleased to note that the pilot, Mike Melvill is a South African (well, born and raised anyway). After Mark Shuttleworth he is the secound South African to fly into Space - well it's close enough to space!!

Regards

BpGemini
06-23-2004, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bo_Nidle:
Very impressive achievement.Hats off to the pilot.

I noticed he didn't have a pressure suit?Or even an inanimate carbon rod?!!

And why did he take M&Ms?If he took ants then we could have found out if they could have been taught to sort out tiny screws in a weightless enviroment!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Dunno but I bet Melvill earned himself some endorsements.

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http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/P-39_BlitzPig_Sig_Bloodied.jpg
CWoS FB forum. More Cheese, Less Whine. (http://www.acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=25)
Original IL-2 P-39 and FB P-63 vet.
The Pig Sty (http://blitzpigs.com/)

BpGemini
06-23-2004, 01:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Graugrun:
Yes, congratulations to all involved!!

I was also pleased to note that the pilot, Mike Melvill is a South African (well, born and raised anyway). After Mark Shuttleworth he is the secound South African to fly into Space - well it's close enough to space!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


He's also a Hoosier. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Big kudos to all the guys who built that thing he sat in too.

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://www.blitzpigs.com/photos/P-39_BlitzPig_Sig_Bloodied.jpg
CWoS FB forum. More Cheese, Less Whine. (http://www.acompletewasteofspace.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=25)
Original IL-2 P-39 and FB P-63 vet.
The Pig Sty (http://blitzpigs.com/)

AirBot
06-23-2004, 01:41 PM
Great achievement! It looks like a new age in aviation is upon us.

Guys, could you please take this argument elsewhere? This thread is about something important.

Gibbage1
06-23-2004, 01:53 PM
I will stop. I just hope the trolls do the same.

"Most P-39's were sent to the Russians - so I guess that was an American secret weapon against our Russian allies."

Stan Wood, P-38 pilot who also flew the P-39.

PunicaDUSK
06-23-2004, 04:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gibbage1:
von Braun clearly did not invent the liquid rocket motor, Dr. Goddard did. Thats the truth. Nothing americanistic about it.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

...sure he did? Just like France has no carriers? ... Gibbage, you're posting very believable facts...

BUT: Congratulations to Space Ship 1!