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HeinzBar
06-21-2004, 09:29 AM
S!,
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I'd like to suggest a new parameter for scripted DFs. I think it would be nice to be able to design a scripted server which would limit the number of specific planes at specific bases. By limiting, I mean limiting the exact number and not type. For example, one blue base would only have 5 x 109k4, 5 x 190d9 45, etc. When all of the 109ks have been destroyed, players would be forced to take the remaining planes, the 190d9s to complete the mission objectives.

If this is already available, could someone please post the instructions on how to setup such a script?

HB

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HeinzBar
06-21-2004, 09:29 AM
S!,
I don't know if this has been brought up before, but I'd like to suggest a new parameter for scripted DFs. I think it would be nice to be able to design a scripted server which would limit the number of specific planes at specific bases. By limiting, I mean limiting the exact number and not type. For example, one blue base would only have 5 x 109k4, 5 x 190d9 45, etc. When all of the 109ks have been destroyed, players would be forced to take the remaining planes, the 190d9s to complete the mission objectives.

If this is already available, could someone please post the instructions on how to setup such a script?

HB

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XyZspineZyX
06-21-2004, 10:06 AM
This'd be a GREAT idea. However, one problem might be how it's decided who gets the "premium" birds. Would it be first come, first served? By high point score? Would a pilot who just completed a succesful sortie (RTB) have dibs on the same plane, even if that plane type was already all checked out and in flight?

Seems like there would have to be some "rules" worked out, but it would certainly add an element of player responsibility to fly intelligently, if only to maintain the inventory of choice planes...it would also get players to try out some of the more "average" planes when the usual "ueberest" plane wasn't available.

TgD Thunderbolt56
06-21-2004, 10:22 AM
This is already in place in some of our maps at greatergreen, however, the FMB parameters are a little unclear as to how to limit them to anything other than 1 aircraft.

It's currently done by having different airfields for the different planes and setting the base perimeter to the minimum diameter allowed. Typically this will allow only one plane of the selected type for that field to be occupied at a time.

We have one map inparticular that has Ki84's in it and 4 Blue bases. The Ki84c is only available at one of these bases and is only available to one pilot at a time.

The problem with this (or blessing depending on how you look at it) is that if someone chooses to "camp" at this base and not fly the limited aircraft, they can effectively make it unavailable for anyone else to fly.

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TacticalYak3
06-21-2004, 10:29 AM
You're almost there mate. What he is saying is allowing BLUE Team, for example, a total of let's say 10 He-111s to complete a mission.

What is available to date is the ability to restrict the availablity of the He-111 to a particular base(s), and further restrict the spawn points of these bases so that a limited number of He-111s is possible at any one time. However, there could be 20 He-111s flown during the entire mission.

I believe a future update to FBD will allow for such mission parameters - subject to technical issues being resolved.

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JaBo_HH-BlackSheep
06-21-2004, 10:45 AM
BTW:

i quote myself:

this works already, but i guess you are in the wrong forum, but anyway.

just add this:

<ARMY FBD>
Red=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis
Blue=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis\nBlueBomber=25:J u-88A-4:Ju-87D-3:

you can use any other plane, there is no need to take only bombers.
But be carefull.
this shows a total of limitid planes (not 25 each, 25 all of them).
And if the limited planes reach ZERO! (o) the map will be lost for this team.

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HeinzBar
06-21-2004, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ToP_BlackSheep:
BTW:

i quote myself:

this works already, but i guess you are in the wrong forum, but anyway.

just add this:

&lt;ARMY FBD&gt;
Red=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis
Blue=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis\nBlueBomber=25:J u-88A-4:Ju-87D-3:

you can use any other plane, there is no need to take only bombers.
But be carefull.
this shows a total of limitid planes (not 25 each, 25 all of them).
And if the limited planes reach ZERO! (o) the map will be lost for this team.

http://www.g-c-p.de/sigbib/hh/blacksheep.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S! Sheep,
Let me get this right. If I wanted to limit the number of fighters, lets use the me262a1 for example, I would use the following script?

ARMY FBD&gt;
Red=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis
Blue=60:40:0:0:0:0:0:0:2=BoB3.mis\nBlueFighter=10: me262a1

I'm assuming that I would replace nBlueBomber w/ nBlueFighter. This would only affect the me262a1 and allow other fighters, correct? What if one wanted to limit more than one figther type? I noticed you had in your example 2 bomber types set at 25. How would you split the difference between types since a fraction would be produced? Does the map have to change if the limited planes are all destroyed? I would like it if the limited planes just wouldn't be available. If the map changes after the all the limited planes are destroyed, then that would make for some quick map changes if a noob gets hold of a limited me262 and repeatedly crashes during takeoff.

I hope I'm explaining myself.

HB

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VFS-22_SPaRX
06-21-2004, 02:23 PM
This option was removed in FBD2. It is only availible in FB1 as far as i know

SPaRX

HeinzBar
06-21-2004, 04:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VFS-22_SPaRX:
This option was removed in FBD2. It is only availible in FB1 as far as i know

SPaRX<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S! Sparx,
That's too bad. It would add something to the scripted DF. Perhaps we can petition Sammy & BadBernie to reintroduce this option?

HB

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Yellonet
06-21-2004, 04:35 PM
It would IMO be good to combine total numbers with the ability to limit how many planes of a specific type is used at the same time, e.g. no more than 4 BF-109, 4 FW-190 and 8 HE-111 at any time.


- Yellonet

IV|JG51Flatspin
06-21-2004, 04:52 PM
But what if you don't want the map to switch when those planes are gone, just that they are no longer available. ie: there are 10 He-111's; 4 go out on a sortie and 2 are shot down and one crashes on landing, now there are 7 avail; an IL-2 comes along and drops AO's and takes out 5 in a row, so now there are 2 left avail.

I don't think this can be done, but it's a v e r y interesting concept.

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TacticalYak3
06-22-2004, 07:53 AM
What such options promote, as I'm sure we all realize, is the absolute need to provide REAL fighter escort.

A mission that I would like to make when FBD2 (FBD3?) has this mentioned functionality is to allow Team "A" a total of 10 He-111s (for example). They can choose to take 10 up in the air all at once, or some other number with fighter escort.

The point being is that they are the only bombers capable/allowed to bomb the target, and there can only be 10 max during the mission. As the bombing raid will take a number of sorties, you must get those bombers safely back home or risk the lost of your bomber squadron.

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