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Yum_Yum
01-30-2004, 03:34 PM

Yum_Yum
01-30-2004, 03:34 PM

Zen--
01-30-2004, 04:10 PM
I fly them both. Medium is medium, not a lot to say about that. I have my times when I want serious immersion in the game and I have my times when I would rather have it more relaxed, check out other people's skins, watch the action etc. There are times when I want to compete and times when I just want to fly...medium suits me fine for the latter.



When it comes to FR I think I'm at the hardcore edge...I like everything turned off as on the BM357 server. As I stated in another thread, the sense of immersion is very strong for me there, I like them alot.

I do not like friendly icon only settings, I would rather have very short range plane type/no color icons IF icons are on at all. (or perhaps if friendly icons only were black instead of blue or red, I can't stand those colors anymore).

Percentage wise I'd say 50/50 lately. A long time ago I prefered arcade settings, a while after that I only liked FR, now wandering back to the middle ground again. Preferences change over time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Yum_Yum
01-30-2004, 04:17 PM
Thanks for the feedback Zen-- http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You are a fast worker with 48 posts under your new name http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zen--
01-30-2004, 04:20 PM
Correction, 49 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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crazyivan1970
01-30-2004, 04:35 PM
I disagree with layout lol... because i think Full difficulty means everything is set. Should say Full or near Full difficulty. Most common are the ones with friendly icons, Speed Bar and Minimap. If ya know what i mean http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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GoodKn1ght
01-30-2004, 04:39 PM
lame poll. god i feel like im reading the same threads over and over again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif. make it stop.

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Weather_Man
01-30-2004, 07:39 PM
What's it called with cockpit off, no map and limited ammo? Is that medium or easy, or full medium, semi-easy bordering on slightly less than full or what? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/blink.gif

I just like the omniscient god-like power of seeing what's under my pedals. That pesky cockpit hinders my supreme ability to inflict serious carnage on the opponent. With it on, I can only inflict medicore carnage. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

GoodKn1ght
01-30-2004, 09:39 PM
ive just narrowed it down to "full real" and "full noob". if its inbetween the two its "full noob." makes it easier to remember.

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Bearcat99
01-30-2004, 11:51 PM
Closed pit,noicons,minimap,externals,speedbar is my favorite setting. I have to get used to the BM server and I found myself loosing tally in the forests with certainplanes..they just disapear and blend right in. I dont know whether its my eyes, my rig, the server, a combination of all or what...... and I hate flying around trying to find my way in an unfamiliar map. I like the surprise that comes with being in unfamiliar territory and situations but I dont have the time to familiarize myself with every single map so the minimap path is a must for me. Talk about full real..... real pilots had to study thier maps and flight plans... most of us boot up and fly. I did see in FA 3.6 how the pilot can move his head sideways and up... that would make "Full Real" a little more real IMO. Having your head locked in a brace on the back of your seat on just a swivel is not realistic IMO. To each his own... I think the VCF server is one of the best. I need a little more practice before I can take on the BM server and others like it and really enjoy myself. For now when I go in there it is strictly for training, practice, and hard knocks....... after all ...no pain no gain.

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Old_Canuck
01-30-2004, 11:57 PM
Full choice: fly what you like and have fun.

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TheGozr
01-31-2004, 02:16 AM
I'm looking for the F16, where is it? IS Oleg will incluse the Mig 21 in the aces pack?.....hum hum....



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Yum_Yum
01-31-2004, 03:27 AM
Goodkn1ght full difficulty means eaxctly that .. all boxes ticked.
So, you are either a full difficulty gamer or an inbetweenie gamer. Also you could have specified what percentages you may play in each if it makes you feel more like a full difficulty gamer?.

Don't say this is a lame poll, your just helping make your reply look the same way http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
be constructive or go away.

Crazy Ivan .. I have used your server (infrequently) and it is at the top of my server list of excelence http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bearcat99 .. I agree, I too don't fly full difficulty all the time because and it presently only has a limited apeal to me, and my time is also limited. I fly by the time I have and the mood I am in http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Weather_Man .. cockpit off may be looked upon as "meduim settings ".
For a simmilar god like power of seeing whats under your pedals but using full difficulty .. fly a JU87 and look through the floor window http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Old_Canuck wrote: "fly what you like and have fun" exactly http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

In general .
I said what I fly as percentages, not for ego, but to help the hosts get the right settings so there servers may be filled.
Again and again the full difficulty or even near difficulty servers are nearly always empty.

So!, I made this poll to see if the missing full difficulty pilots can be located, and what percentages we may be looking at.
In a simmilar poll I made, I think something like 73% said they fly full difficulty .. yet more than 70% of the full difficlty servers are empty ???.

In my opinion, I think the meduim settings gamers spend 80-90% in meduim settings servers, and 10-20% of thier time in full difficulty server.
The full difficulty gamers is proberly the exact opersite ?.

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Slammin_
01-31-2004, 06:17 AM
This is just my own guess as to why most FR servers are mostly empty so here goes!

I'm thinking that the average pilot that prefers FR also prefers everything else that the setting implies, such as historically accurate plane selection, locale, air defenses and maybe even time of day.

If this is true, it would definitely explain why FR pilots avoid my server when I use FR settings, and understandably. It would take me more time than I have available to create maps with this criteria, so I guess for now, it's going to be what it be.

I do think this is a good poll, and have also wondered why the FR servers are mostly empty.

michapma
01-31-2004, 06:44 AM
My preference is the least onscreen textual aid possible. I understand their use of course, but I've even started turning off the HUD. It's just more fun!

Should I mention that I get shot down a lot by people getting on my six? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Osirisx9
01-31-2004, 07:04 AM
I'm always looking for full real servers to fly and know of at least four that are going on probably as i'm typing now. The problem is that when i join there are probably just two or three other people flying and sometimes none at all. Easy setting servers with hud come a dime a dozen but those settings are just too easy and not close enough to the realism that i'm looking for. Lately I've been flying on the War-Clouds server with medium settings which work very well and have a good showing and is allot of fun. War-Clouds also hosts a full real server, but sometimes that server is not too active. The lowest settings that i can tolerate are Cockpit locked on, Outside views (thats if I just want to watch the action and not fly) , limited lables that only show the type of aircraft and are the same color for both teams, minimap, and speed bar. Otherwise that my first preference is full dificulty.

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Yum_Yum
01-31-2004, 07:55 AM
Thanks Slammin_ I would also like to know the cause of this imbalance of maths between the availability of Full difficulty and Medium settings servers, when matched to players preferences.
You have a great server, almost instant fighting, nearly always filled to capacity http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif .. always difficult to stay alive for long http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif... but good for the reflexes!

michapma .. I agree, variety is the spice of life, and is one of the reasons I don't mind any settings.

Osisisx9 .. I have spent 3 hours on the warclouds real server this week ground pounding because I was the only one present http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. It may be the time I fly or because the server has only just moved to HL, I don't know http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.
I have tried to wait for others to join but gave up after an hour or more.
I will use the warclouds server each day this week for approx 1 hr, and use it between the hours of 6pm and 8pm Gmt.
Now I am sure to neet someone http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif (this may be what is required).

Thanks to all who are taking part.

westcoastphil
01-31-2004, 07:59 AM
Ever since December I've flown in the settings that are found in Greatergreen. I stepped up from open pit to that setting and found a fun challenge. BTW, my call sign over there is Voxman.
I also have enjoyed war clouds-medium.
I've gone on a FR setting server a couple of times, but I didn't enjoy trying to figure out my location by landmarks, then worrying about being bounced, then worrying about the engine management, then finding something to attack and setting up the tactic, then being blown away after going through that......just a lot to think about when all I want to do is relax. I'm thinking about half those things during my regular work day, why take them home? Yes, FR is the step up, and I think it does simulate to a certain degree (thank God I can die and come back to life infinitely in the game) what a WWII pilot had to go through. But there are the limitions (head movement, screen resolution, real sense of depth) hinder the full immersion.

I love this game though.

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reddevil49
01-31-2004, 08:11 AM
Let me start off by saying I am not a fr pilot. I don't even fly on line that much. But the reason there seems to be more medium players is the current influx of new people to the game. Probably the more relaxed settings are what they find enjoyable to them. As time goes on IMO a lot of the new ones will drift away from the game as their intrests wain and we will see a reversal of the way things are now. I am not against fr settings or the people who fly them. I say, all the more power to them, and your a better man then I Gung-ga din. I just don't have the patiencetions or the desire to go through the frustrating learning curve to do it wich might explain a lot. Call me a noob big deal I've been called worse then that before. This is what I think and is just MO.

Yum_Yum
01-31-2004, 08:30 AM
Thanks for contributing westcoastphil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I understand some want the immersiveness of full difficulties, and others the fast almost instant action of medium settings etc etc.
I say it's your game, and you pay for the online connection so fly it using any settings you wish .. I know I do http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It's hard to explain what I like about this game because it's the only one I have http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

reddevil49 .. it maybe be true what you say in your opinion, that the game may have a high turnover which are unwilling to spend the time learning the attributes of Full difficulty.
I have been playing since August 2003 and only
Now use full difficulty for 10-20% of the time spent online.
mmm ... this asks another question! .. are the full difficulty gamers the ones who have been playing the longest, and how long have they been playing ?

Thanks

T4T-TheProf
01-31-2004, 09:01 AM
Just like to say I fly medium settings pretty well all the time. I try the full real server occasionally, but frankly it just doesn't interest me. I guess because I view FB as a game and just want to enjoy myself. I'm afraid from seeing whats available on Hyperlobby and the posts here, thats probably the popular view.

Old_Canuck
01-31-2004, 09:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T4T-TheProf:
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Indianer.
01-31-2004, 01:17 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GoodKn1ght:
ive just narrowed it down to "full real" and "full noob". if its inbetween the two its "full noob." makes it easier to remember.

Damn right

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Platypus_1.JaVA
01-31-2004, 01:22 PM
the really funny part is that lots of people tell you that they use full-real or full-difficulty settings and yet, on HL, it is hard to find such a server. Even on busy nights.

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TheGozr
01-31-2004, 01:50 PM
I really like No icons that way you gat to get use of the shapes of planes and you have to get close, That a big plus.

Cockpit ON for sure, If not fly M$.http://french.themotorhead.com/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif http://french.themotorhead.com/images/smilies/bash.gif

have icons on map is find for doghfighting it's faster to find ennemy plane , great still surprised you ennemy.

Ext views doesn't matter to me but when dead i like to watch.
But in-fight i stay in the Cockpit.

"Labusas+Themotorhead" server is awesome for that. Great atmosphere and lightning and ground populace.

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AFJ_Locust
01-31-2004, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoodKn1ght:
ive just narrowed it down to "full real" and "full noob". if its inbetween the two its "full noob." makes it easier to remember.

"Friends don't let friends fly arcade"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just narowed you down to full idiot.....

I see you flying in medium setting servers all the time Night....

In your sig it sayes friends dont let friends fly Arcade but I see you flying "Arcade" LMAO

You would like everyone here to think your a FULLREAL PILOT like it freekin matters....

Just go fly & try to have fun.... and stop fakin like your some fullreal guru cuz your NOT !!!!!

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AFJ_Locust
01-31-2004, 03:48 PM
PS G-Night come tell me about fullreal after you have a Pilots license ok !!!

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GoodKn1ght
01-31-2004, 04:46 PM
ill explain it again. full real servers aren't always available. the 'best of the best' arent always playing. sometimes im forced to fly full noob.
oh yeah ive flown b4 but no license, like that matters.

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LW_Cobra
01-31-2004, 09:00 PM
There is no "Full Real" in this game. You want full real, try Falcon 4 with Superpack 3. The community made that game "Full Real". When there is a compass in the cockpit and you can't see it, that isn't full real - that's....oops! When you can't move your head to see around the frame of the cockpit that's not "Full Real".
I hate the fact that cockpit off means "you're a puss" to guys that think there is something close to real life settings in this game and I would rather see a different way to view from the cockpit other that what we have now.
Also i think pad-lock is on par with cockpit off, so I try to fly Medium servers, but I prefer a coop with no speedbar, cockpit on, no icons, no padlock, and human players on both sides. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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MC_Cudden
01-31-2004, 10:39 PM
We have no full real settings in this sim. We have easy, medium, hard settings. And all these settings have nothing to do with real or not real.

Only one think makes this sim realy arcadish online, thatis the way the people fly and fight on the servers. No sence for tactic,no sence to survive ecp. I see 109 and 190 t&b 100 m about the ground against better turning russian planes. I see damaged planes with big holes in the wing or big black smoking engine and the pilots dont try to fly home, no they fight to dead. I see 3,4,5,6.... planes chasing one plane, and every chasing plane like to have the kill.

I see planes take off and fly in 100- 500m high to the enemy area without gaining high.

All this and much more things make the game arcadish, but not the settings.

I can tell you much more about this, but thats enough for the moment.

People should try to fly and fight to these rules, then we had much more realistic gameplay.

1.try to survive and then make the kill
2.survive after the kill (a kill is nothing worth if you die after the kill)
3.Not the kill is importend, but the Kill Ratio is much more importend.
4.Try to fly and fight with tactic.
5.Try to bring your big damaged plane home and try to survive as you would do in real combat too. No smart pilot fight with a damage plane, if he can escape.
5.Think you have only one life in this sim.

TheGozr
01-31-2004, 10:53 PM
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AFJ_Locust
01-31-2004, 11:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LW_Cobra:
There is no "Full Real" in this game. You want full real, try Falcon 4 with Superpack 3. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Word !!!

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AFJ_Locust
01-31-2004, 11:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoodKn1ght:
oh yeah ive flown b4 but no license, like that matters.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What did you fly in ? The back of a 747 lol !!!

Hmmm Like that matters is right because if you had flown in small ac in the cockpit, then you would relise that the view in "Full Real" ISINT FULLREAL AT ALL & we wouldnt be having this discusion. What we have in FB is an eyeball on stick that can rotate, Real humans can lean, raiseup, scrunch down and look all the way out the back of the AC (well most ac anyway).

Full hardness is not for the BEST its for thoes that want to HIDE while they fly out of the sun & bounce you or better yet is the look Im flying full real @ 1000m off the deck..... (THAT IS NOT REAL)

If you want a challange & think your good come fly with my settings where you have an equal chance that is if your not in a yak3 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif...

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BM357_Raven
02-01-2004, 02:45 AM
I voted for "I fly both"...because when there is nobody around on a Full Switch server, I gotta make do. Often times I end up in the forums if I cant find a full switch server... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Everyone knows I've grown kinda fanatical about full switch but that just puts me in the minority which I am cool with http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

In terms of a full real server populated game, it usually takes a squad or at least a flight of four to jump start the game. Then all the FS people can go clubbing for the night and the party will stay strong for several hours.

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I think that some people are just not made for this type of game play anymore than others are made for full screen and padlock settings.

There is a certain breed who currently make up the population. They make up the underground and are currently kinda remote and isolated from the rest of the population.

But I think there is a wider population who just dont know they are FR guys yet. They are the vfp's who just have to make the leap of faith that there actually is a light at the end of the tunnel. Stick time is the solution; hours of practice and in some cases torture http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

The two biggest problems with a full switch game are that it is easy to get lost and it is easy to get bounced.

Check your six every few seconds is a cliche that even I sometimes get lazy and fail to respect. If you get lazy, you'll get jumped. Even still you will inevitably get jumped, no matter how careful you are.

Here's a tip that some might not like and other Full Switch players might disagree with, but I find I can actually see the enemy better and further in the distance when I reduce my resolution the 800 x 600.. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

And trust me, I have a system that will burn a whole in your leg if you let it touch the tail pipe, so it's not my preference to turn anything down, but what can I say, sight is life. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Machine gun fire and AAA are your friends. They tell you what's going on miles away. Watch for the signatures. If you see a guy firing red traces on a bandit and a guy behind him chasing and firing blue traces then you might conclude a P-51 is following and shooting at a 109 and the 109's wingman is trying to pick him off. To many of you this is obvious, but I am sure there are a couple out there who after reading this will see the game in a whole new way. Also listen and learn to recognize the sound of a 109's guns. Very helpful as well.

Altitude is your friend in a way it simply is not with icons enabled. Some one else might be better able to explain why this is, but I just find that energy fighting is more important. After thinking about it, it is likely because you have an element of surprise without icons and are better able to bounce your opponent. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Oh, and one thing Bearcat said about learning the maps. I agree that you are usually golden after a few hours on anyone map, otherwise you it IS a lot harder.

However, I have found after flying full real for some time that.... I dunno, things just fall into place quicker on maps that are new and unfamiliar. It's like you develop a sixth sense and to a degree your hunches turn out to be right.

Maybe it's just that you begin to look for certain ground features that you didnt look at as readily. Perhaps it's the way you look at those features. I have no clear idea. I am sure that everyone tries to figure their location based on heading indicators, forests, towns, airdromes, rivers, lakes, and yes, sometimes even map edges http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. But I think there's something about the way it is down. Probably you just learn from your mistakes of following a wrong river or other reference.

I like to look for the thing that makes a feature totally different than all the others.

For example, are you over a forest with a road or river running through it? Do you see a spot where two or better yet, three rivers intersect? Is the airfield near a town? Is the town split by a river? Is there a bridge that is heading N/S when the others in the area seem to head E/W? What about a shoreline along a major body of water? Or a city large enough to have a factory in it? Reference all this stuff to your map.

Altitude plays a major part here as a well. Sometimes the details actually become too confusing and you just need to see the shape of the forest from a distance to get a more generalized feel of it.

Also, I dont recommend using a bridge as a main point of reference on a map that is cluttered with bridges. Same with an airfield if the map is cluttered with airfields and you are totally clueless. However you might see the airfield has a forest to the north near a river and to the south of the airfield is a town and to the west is a much smaller town near another airfield in the distance. Now you have something unique. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I know all this is kinda ABC-obvious, but my point is that after you practice your ability to decyphr (oops sp) references and compare them to your flight map the information becomes more automatic and you figure your position quicker so you can go back to scanning the sky for enemies.

To stop from getting bounced as much, I recommend you gravitate towards the players who seem to respond to your requests for headings and who announce 'contact' and give location, hdg, alt, etc.

Use comms if you can. If you have the software you can get some ventilation on our guest comms anytime you want. All you have to do is ask. Communication helps A LOT! Fly with guys who form up and act like team players and forget the rest.

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Yum_Yum
02-01-2004, 04:18 AM
Indianer. and Goodn1ght ... You imply that full difficulty settings require more player skill ?, this suggest that your skill should be untarnished in any server with lower settings against players with a simmilar experience ?.
Please be serious http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Platypus_1.Java yes, I think you remember a simmilar poll I did some time ago and the numbers for full difficulty players just don't add up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. In my opinion, the term "Full Real" may imply that someone may better than someone else who uses any lesser settings, so some see a need to say they are "full Real" when in fact the majority of them are not. to those that actuly do fly full difficulty 100% of the itme ... I join you occasionally http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AFJ_Locust & Goodn1ght http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Please gentlemen, you strongly dissagree with each other and I have enjoyed your ribbing remarks. let us not make things personal and get back on thread topic.

LW_Cobra .. I agree it's only a game and lesser settings should not mean lesser skills, they are only settings and skill is a different matter, cockpit on or cockpit off require different techniques.

MC_Cudden .. ah! your are like me, I would rather return with no kills or encountered nothing, than not return at all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

BM357_Raven .. I have used your server and enjoyed it very much, sadly there were only 3 of us present and I find this is acutlly the only draw back of a Full Difficulty server.
I realy don't mind the settings but I do mind waiting for someone because my time is limited as are many people who play in thier momentary leasure time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.
I see Full Difficulty as evolving in logical sequence from Easy, Medium to Difficult etc, learning something in each which may help you do better in the next settings, if they don't and you get killed lots take a step back, they all take time and experience http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.
It disheartens me to see a hosts server empty because I respect what they are doing for the community. I don't think breeding has any part to play in flying full difficult or lesser settings , its just a matter of choices and as you say ... taking the next step http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Thanks to all http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by Yum_Yum on Sun February 01 2004 at 05:32 AM.]

Saburo_0
02-01-2004, 10:13 AM
Fly both.

Sometimes it's FUN to know who you are after, or who is chasing you!!

BM357_Raven
02-02-2004, 01:12 PM
Yum_Yum wrote:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I realy don't mind the settings but I do mind waiting for someone because my time is limited as are many people who play in thier momentary leasure time . <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yah.. It's a problem..http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

If anyone wonders why I am always trying to 'convert' people over, it's for this reason.

Still, like I said, if you have a squad that likes our settings, join in. People now kinda know to look in our server from time to time.

BTW, BM357_Disciple has another FR server called "357thFullSwitch" (used to be BM357th) which has autokick set and will boot you after you have died too many times, boot you for shooting too many friendlies and will boot people with poor pings.

And don't forget about our official "Blazing_Magnums" server.

If either server is down, it is become HL was down sometime during the day and our hosts just havent returned home yet to re-establish them...

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GoodKn1ght
02-02-2004, 01:19 PM
what was the topic again? oh yeah. it was a poll. ive only seen this poll like 5 times in the past week.

"Friends don't let friends fly arcade"
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BpGemini
02-02-2004, 01:24 PM
A more efficient poll:

Full Real
Full Real minus 1-3 options clicked off
Full Real minus 4-6 options ...........
Medium Difficulty (7-10)
Easy


Just my 2c. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Yum_Yum
02-02-2004, 02:34 PM
BM_357 Raven .. I will visit your servers next week to make up numbers and maybe to help me step up to Fully Switched http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I like the terminology "fully swithed".

Goodn1ght .. You are obviosly someone cannot be constructive or taken seriously in these matters ...now or at any time http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.


BpGemini... all the best ideas come after the original lol, maybe I will do those next http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

flyingskid2
02-02-2004, 02:41 PM
i like cockpit on, externals, no padlock, minimap, speedbar.

padlock & cockpit off gives you radar. externals allows me to watch aces fly.

however, since for some inexplicable reason, a lot of padlock off servers also have cockpit off (defeating the no-radar restriction), i've mapped a button on my joystick to the change cockpit mode. i figured no reason to play with a handicap (when i already suck), so i use wonder woman view arrows to search for enemy planes.

btw, i like no takeoffs/landings for instant action. makes it easier to go back into combat after i get killed (which is a lot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

JG27_Dacripler
02-02-2004, 04:55 PM
I choose to play all, I am not an advocate for "full real" or have a bias to "open pits" either. I see an equal percentage of good and bad flyers and attitudes in in each of the games.
Only differences which I notice in Harder settings are people tend to immerse the game by using comms and are more attached via communication. As the visual cues are not readily available, comm programs are your eyes in the skies. Limited rooms where you will hear, or see messages such as: B-2 or comms: "B-2.. 3 bogeys going North at 1850 K to B-1 East" Lesser settings give you the non- verbal cues by an icon or arrow which gives all an equal awareness level. Pilot skills are challenging because they have the same reactions and visuals you have. And in my experience, the guy who has the best aim is the winner of any contest. I see some decent flyers in Higher settings rooms which are not flashy or brilliant turners . Yet they have exceptional aim and utilize teamwork which make them shine. In a Lesser setting room a great shooter with average piloting skills still holds an advantage by aim. But their biggest frustration is the amount of other pilots catch this weakness by visual and will take advantage by the spray and pray tactics which will attempt to neutralize their weakness.
I look at the stats on all of the servers in which provide the information and the facts are right in front. The best shooter wins a contest without a doubt.

AFJ_Skyghost
02-03-2004, 04:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MC_Cudden:
We have no full real settings in this sim. We have easy, medium, hard settings. And all these settings have nothing to do with real or not real.

Only one think makes this sim realy arcadish online, thatis the way the people fly and fight on the servers. No sence for tactic,no sence to survive ecp. I see 109 and 190 t&b 100 m about the ground against better turning russian planes. I see damaged planes with big holes in the wing or big black smoking engine and the pilots dont try to fly home, no they fight to dead. I see 3,4,5,6.... planes chasing one plane, and every chasing plane like to have the kill.

I see planes take off and fly in 100- 500m high to the enemy area without gaining high.

All this and much more things make the game arcadish, but not the settings.

I can tell you much more about this, but thats enough for the moment.

People should try to fly and fight to these rules, then we had much more realistic gameplay.

1.try to survive and then make the kill
2.survive after the kill (a kill is nothing worth if you die after the kill)
3.Not the kill is importend, but the Kill Ratio is much more importend.
4.Try to fly and fight with tactic.
5.Try to bring your big damaged plane home and try to survive as you would do in real combat too. No smart pilot fight with a damage plane, if he can escape.
5.Think you have only one life in this sim.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I couldn't agree more, and your darn 47 is very good doing that http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif