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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 12:24 PM
Hello
I am kinda new to this game and had to go from Ms sidewinder to Saitek just for this game and XP os on new computer. Now I am having trouble configuring this stick.I broke my rumble's trigger so I went and traded for an X-45.Love the feel and all but I don't yet have it set up completely right yet. I need input from others that have this controller on what they use the rotary and mouse buttons for.Any advice would be helpful and appreciated!Thanks
Skully

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 12:24 PM
Hello
I am kinda new to this game and had to go from Ms sidewinder to Saitek just for this game and XP os on new computer. Now I am having trouble configuring this stick.I broke my rumble's trigger so I went and traded for an X-45.Love the feel and all but I don't yet have it set up completely right yet. I need input from others that have this controller on what they use the rotary and mouse buttons for.Any advice would be helpful and appreciated!Thanks
Skully

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:07 PM
hello there Scully, i too have the X45 w/throttle, nice having all those buttons to play with eh?/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif for the rotary switches on mine i have the top one setup for prop pitch and the bottom one setup for elevator trim. as far as the little mouse button, i have it setup for various friendly and enemy views, mainly for taking screen shots. S!

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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:35 PM
Same here - rotaries for prop pitch and trim.
Orange nipple mouse thingy I currently use for changing supercharger setting, (Just using top and bottom buttons in 4 button mode) but I don't seem to use it much so I might swap it to a views selector.

Warning - if you're not careful you can spend more time tinkering with your X45 setup than playing the damn game - so many choices :-)

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:48 PM
Orange nipple mouse.


I like it.



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XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 01:55 PM
I too use the rotaries for prop pitch and elevator trim.As for the mouse cursor, I use it for mouse view. Open the programing software and right click next to the mouse cursor and select mouse to control view. With the combination of the mouse view and the hat, you have very fine control over where you're looking.



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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 02:49 AM
Thanks for the replies. I will try those setting tho I have not got into cem yet. Still a nooby and I guess I thought this controller would get me "there" faster.Nope,still gotta get shot down alot it seems.
Salute
Skully

T_O_A_D
10-20-2003, 03:48 AM
Nice you like it. Wisest investment for a stick if your strapped for cash. If you can get along with the rudder toggle. I bought a set of CH USB rudder pedals to get rid of that complaint. Cost$100 US for that fix./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif But at the end of the day I would have them now with any stick.

I uses the front knob for trim the rear knob for prop pitch. Before the last patch it would make a hurry trun alot faster if you dipped the nose and cranked down pitch.

But even now I still use it to slow down faster. Like on a hot approach. Some guys say it doesn't work to slow down but it sure feels like it does to me.

Since I have TrackIr I have all my hats set to views gunsight wide ect. or CEM I use the mouse for map,dive brakes,Super chargers.Smal hat on front of throttle is for Radiator,and flaps,and something else but at work and I fail to remember. I keep gear and few others on the key board so I don't accedently hit it. Oh the missle button is my bail out.



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Tully__
10-20-2003, 04:16 AM
Rotaries for pitch and trim, mouse hat for zoom/normal/wide view control (forward/back), toggle gunsight view (down) and toggle cockpit (up).

I use the Dhauzimmer 3rd party drivers, not the Saitek ones, which allows assigning mouse emulation to any of the hats, so I have mouse look on one of the joystick hats.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:27 AM
J30_Skully wrote:

- I have not got into cem yet. Still a nooby and I
- guess I thought this controller would get me "there"
- faster.Nope,still gotta get shot down alot it seems.


When I got my X-45 I had been using an ancient Saitek X7-38 4 button 3 axis joystick. I hardly used or understood CEM. Now with the X-45 it's all at my fingertips. Plus I have setups for fighters and bombers by using the mode switches. Now much of the controls end is simple and I can concentrate on flying and shoooting skills. I found that with a HOTAS arragement I've gotten noticebly better, i.e. it takes you longer to shoot me down. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 05:43 AM
I love my X45, I think the single best improvement that I've made is to use some velcro pads that allow me to velcro the stick and throttle to my desk to keep it nice and sturdy.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 06:19 AM
The hardest choice I made about the X45 was how to mount it. It's kind of cumbersome. Here is what I came up with.

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Then I slid my CH pedals under the desk, and wa-laa. I also took a Gameport version of CH pedals and wired the input wires to take the place of the silly rocker switch. I got the pedals for $35.00 and they work like a champ!

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 08:54 AM
same set up for the throttle as tully/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
i use the ms sidewinderffb as stick.

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XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 02:49 PM
hey there Fehler thats a nice setup you have there./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 04:06 PM
Has anybody tried the TrackIR emulator programs New View or the FBView with their X45? Do these proggies work with the X45 and with the SST software or Hazard script?

also I am still using Dauz drivers and Hazard Script...should I consider trying the latest SST drivers and software by Saitek? or stick with what I got? opinions anybody?



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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:19 PM
Got a little question for you Saitek users.

Doesn't that pinky finger button bothers you?

I mean, doesn't it get in the way?

I like to grab hold of the full joystick, but still keep my hand on the handguard, as to stabilize the motion, and i wonder if you can do that, and still avoid the button.


I can't get a sence of depth from any X-45 photos i've seen to this day.
Fehler, you could actualy help me on this, since you got a digicam.
Is it possible that you could show me a photo of your hand holding the stick?

I'm pretty avegared in hand size, but since i can't get no depth, i'm worried that the stick might be too big, or even worse, too small.


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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:44 PM
Do X-45s have good force feedback ala Sidewinder style? Or do they have feeble rumbly mobile phone style?

Thinking of getting one since they are aboot 50-60ish here in UK

Wilhelm

XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 05:49 PM
The X-45 does not have any kind of FF or rumble.

If you want a Saitek with these features, i suggest you take a look for the Cyborg models.

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XyZspineZyX
10-21-2003, 07:21 PM
I already have a Cyborg 3D is there any other stick/s like the X-45 with FF?

Wilhelm

XyZspineZyX
10-22-2003, 12:37 PM
questions on the ole pinky switch eh?

the pinky switch IS removeable. it makes a LOT of room. but id rather have too much room for a pinky, than a cramped up hand.

its POPS forward, and UP. it takes a lot of force. you swear that you are going to break it off! but you wont. after the first time, youll see what i mean.

underneath the pinky trigger (after removal) is a large U-GROOVE in the slider action for the trigger. should be large enuff to accept even the fattest pinky, leaving more room for your 3 other fingers.


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us x-45 users seem to keep re-lubing the disk, and axis points. ive heard everything from vaseline, lithium grease,"prolong", motor oil, and yes even I got desperate enuff to use "astro-glide" for a decent lube for the HOTAS... dont use liquids anymore, they will dry out, or get tacky all over again.

clean all gunked up surfaces (disk and maybe axis friction)
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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 12:05 AM
I like the pinky switch.
I use it to centre the view. Whatever my thumb is doing up top I can snap the view forward instantly. Works out nicely.

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 12:10 AM
Wilhelm_Hartas wrote:
- I already have a Cyborg 3D is there any other
- stick/s like the X-45 with FF?
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- Wilhelm

Then you are in business. Keep your FFB stick, assign the roll & pitch to it...put your prop pitch on the throttle slider of that stick. Use that one for flight control and it's FFB. Use the X45 for it's throtle and the X45 stick as a button bay. Thats what I do only I have a MSFFB stick. Works like a charm. One of the really gret things about FB is it supports multiple controlers.

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XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 12:42 AM
Thanks to all for the info.I d/l the profole from georgeo76 and I think it will help alot.Then,I am going to start hunting for a chair to mount this thing to. I am glad I posted and many thanks again!

XyZspineZyX
10-23-2003, 02:13 AM
J30_Skully wrote:
...I am glad I posted and many thanks again!

You're welcome. Glad we could help. Good luck.


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