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RussiaSuperPowr
01-04-2004, 04:47 AM
yak1 and lagg3 turn bad and climb bad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

german 20 mm has too power and russian 20 mm is bad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

I-16 is too weak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

190 is too faster and i cant catch it with La5 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

P40 turns OK but is slower and climbs bad, in "pearl harbor" is a plane very good but in FB no http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

109 turns very well and it isnt OK http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

La5 1942 doesnt turn well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Fuel tanks of yak are too weak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Make PK to russian planes is too easy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Mk108 is too good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

And pls, Im not whinning http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, I have flied a lot of VEF and VOW missions I think that this post is one of the most objetive threads of this forum ever written.

RussiaSuperPowr
01-04-2004, 04:47 AM
yak1 and lagg3 turn bad and climb bad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

german 20 mm has too power and russian 20 mm is bad http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

I-16 is too weak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

190 is too faster and i cant catch it with La5 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

P40 turns OK but is slower and climbs bad, in "pearl harbor" is a plane very good but in FB no http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

109 turns very well and it isnt OK http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

La5 1942 doesnt turn well http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Fuel tanks of yak are too weak http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Make PK to russian planes is too easy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

Mk108 is too good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

And pls, Im not whinning http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, I have flied a lot of VEF and VOW missions I think that this post is one of the most objetive threads of this forum ever written.

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-04-2004, 04:52 AM
Alliasses are forbidden on these forums, what is your real name? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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kyrule2
01-04-2004, 05:10 AM
Woodsy the Owl says;

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"Give a Hoot, Don't Pollute.....Oleg's Ready Room with this kind of crap."

Whether you are joking or not.



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blabla0001
01-04-2004, 05:44 AM
I think it's a Luftwhiner who made a new account.

SeaFireLIV
01-04-2004, 06:14 AM
This is a joke , yes? Anyone comparing anything to Pearl Harbour (the Hollywood movie) has got to be taking the mickey!

(Though I`ll admit the I16 is very weak now).

`Man is an embodied paradox, a bundle of contradictions.` Lacon.

RussiaSuperPowr
01-04-2004, 06:36 AM
It isnt a joke and many red pilots think the same things, read VOW forum for example

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cappadocian_317:
I think it's a Luftwhiner who made a new account.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

A luftwhiner flying in red side?? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I said it in my first post, im not whining, many people think THE SAME. Cappadocian_317 do you think that fuel tanks of yak are very weak for example????? and PK in russian planes is very easy too???

And the P40s of pearl harbor film are real planes restored from WW2....

Pls, believe me, these bugs should be fixed

blabla0001
01-04-2004, 06:43 AM
No.

Extreme_One
01-04-2004, 06:56 AM
Wow!
With such unrefutable evidence how can anyone argue with the original poster.
If I were Oleg reading this post I would probably sack the whole FB team and employ RussiaSuperPowr to remake the whole game.

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SeaFireLIV
01-04-2004, 06:58 AM
Well, ok RussianSuperPower, but your messages are a little too vague and need much more backing up than what you saw in a movie. I mean, how can you tell that a p-40 is faster by watching a movie. especially a HollyWood movie? Because it LOOKS faster? That`s not enough...

I agree abou the I16, it is like an eggshell now. The rest I cannot agree.

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JaBo_HH--Gotcha
01-04-2004, 07:51 AM
Can anyone confirm this one ?

I took a FW190 A4 + 250SC AND Droptanks. The noseguns wont fire. The wingguns go off normally.
The same happens if you leave the bomb away and just take the droptanks. I found out the hard way during a long range mission .... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Arm_slinger
01-04-2004, 08:58 AM
LOL this is the worst thread i've seen here in a while http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Health_Angel
01-04-2004, 09:53 AM
How badly does a pilot have to be who requires still improvements for the red side? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Blackjack174
01-04-2004, 10:09 AM
As I have flown the P40 ingame at VEF and VOW, I have to say its a absolutely superfly LW hardly can mess around with if flown correctly !
(all other commennts I better hold back for now ;D )

@JaBo_HH--Gotcha: i think with this setup the MG ammo is stripped to safe weight if I remember correctly

blabla0001
01-04-2004, 10:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Health_Angel:
How badly does a pilot have to be who requires still improvements for the red side? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I feel the same about players from blue side who still moan after the 1.21 patch that it's not good enough.

VW-IceFire
01-04-2004, 11:41 AM
This must be a joke since it nails everything squarely about what the Blue side has been complaining about and turns it around to the Red side http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Good satire - if there ever was...

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Juego
01-04-2004, 11:50 AM
Well at lease he did not say

"FW 190 DM SUCK BAD."


"AI SUCK IT KEEPS SHOTTING ME DOWN"

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LEXX_Luthor
01-04-2004, 11:52 AM
Can't see through gunsight of Yak9, pls fix

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Dunkelgrun
01-04-2004, 12:08 PM
I can't fly for toffee. It must be a bug. Pls fix it.
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Jaws2002
01-04-2004, 01:11 PM
RussiaSuperPowr in two posts you just beat Bob Izumi.... ("Fishing Chanell" Guru)

BBB_Hyperion
01-04-2004, 02:55 PM
Looking forward to the presentation of at least 2 Source original WW2 Documents for every claim presented by RussiaSuperPowr , because else its regardless and i am almost sure he knows that.)

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S77th-brooks
01-04-2004, 03:59 PM
yak guns are over powered and the DM is just as bad

warweapon2
01-04-2004, 05:00 PM
Only a idiot would post something like that.

crazyivan1970
01-04-2004, 06:42 PM
http://www.trollart.com/trollart_toplinks/Resources/lastgreatadnetura.jpeg

http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif :P

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hotspace
01-04-2004, 06:54 PM
I'm a Idiot and I would definitely........post something like thathttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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JaBo_HH--Gotcha
01-05-2004, 12:24 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
@JaBo_HH--Gotcha: i think with this setup the MG ammo is stripped to safe weight if I remember correctly<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This seems odd.
I think the full ammo load for the MGs hardly weighs 250kg..
There're two options:
1) you take 250kg Bomb and tanks (NO MGs)
2) you take trop tanks (still no MGs)

If weight was the reason I would understand the Problem in 1)
but since 2) has the same bug/feature it seems odd. Thanks for the answer anyway I'll check that up. Seems as if the only real topic inside this Satire thread... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

blabla0001
01-05-2004, 01:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by S77th-brooks:
yak guns are over powered and the DM is just as bad<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's because you don't want to listen to advice.

269GA-Veltro
01-05-2004, 03:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RussiaSuperPowr:


P40 turns OK but is slower and climbs bad, in "pearl harbor" is a plane very good but in FB no http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha ha ha.....this is definitly a joke...i hope.

Fehler
01-05-2004, 03:30 AM
Yes, I want the P40 to fly like in Pearl Harbor.

That way I can pretend that I am Ben Aflak and then I would be bedding J-Lo.

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bazzaah2
01-05-2004, 09:17 AM
Kate Beckinsale - she's a much sleeker bird and probably retains E better than the wobbly J-Lo in high G manoeuvers.

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Platypus_1.JaVA
01-05-2004, 09:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RussiaSuperPowr:
german 20 mm has too (much)power

Mk108 is too good http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, pls fix it<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too good? WOW they are pretty weak guns!!! I never hit anything with it!!!

Maybe the guns are good but, I never can see the gunsight in the German planes. It is a major bug in my opinion!! PLEASE FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Vipez-
01-05-2004, 09:45 AM
that is funny.. nothing RussiaSuperPowr wrote I can't agree with..

RussiaSuperPowr, you must be a true russian patriotic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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warweapon2
01-05-2004, 09:50 AM
Oh noes!!! TEH RUSKIES ARE COMING!!! TEH RUSKIES ARE COMING!!!!!!

Eagle_361st
01-05-2004, 10:22 AM
Well I must agree on one note............
I would much rather "fly" Kate Beckinsale than the portly J-LO. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif What can I say Kate is HOT!

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RussiaSuperPowr
01-05-2004, 10:44 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
RussiaSuperPowr, you must be a true russian patriotic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fly in a VVS PATRIOTIC SQUAD, and I must say that many german pilots think that my list of bugs is ok with only a few shades.

Now im sad because La5 1942 is bad vs 190 A4 and 109 G2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif , but if it is fixed i will happy again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-05-2004, 11:56 AM
Like it should...

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge,
ye shall be judged: and with what
measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.

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WhtBoy
01-05-2004, 12:19 PM
PJ,
Have you tried <SHIFT-F1>?


-WhtBoy.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Maybe the guns are good but, I never can see the gunsight in the German planes. It is a major bug in my opinion!! PLEASE FIX IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Vipez-
01-05-2004, 12:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RussiaSuperPowr:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
RussiaSuperPowr, you must be a true russian patriotic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I fly in a VVS PATRIOTIC SQUAD, and I must say that many german pilots think that my list of bugs is ok with only a few shades.

Now im sad because La5 1942 is bad vs 190 A4 and 109 G2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif , but if it is fixed i will happy again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

WEll sorry but LA-5 is allready very much overmodelled.. turns too good, climbs too well, while FW-190 A-4 is the most undermodelled FW-190 in the game.. misses some 50-60 kmh top speed, while LA-5 is even faster than much improved LA-5F..


You say I-16 is too weak? What makes you think a fabric-skinned plane should be so durable concerning german 20 mm cannonfire?

You say FW-190 is too fast ? Then how come FW-190 A-4 misses 50 kmh top speed.

You say 109 turns too well? OMG you should try to fly F-4.. it has very bad elevators, and blackout much easier than Yak-pilot does. Mig-3 can do amazing loops in front of F-4 withot energy bleeding. Same goes for Lagg-3. IRL both of these planes were notorius for loosing the energy fast, therefore making them quite vulnerable for turnfighting with 109F-series.

P-40 you have a point, concerning P-40E misses some 40 kmh top speed.. however it still climbed bad (which is realistic).. and turned well (like it does now).. at the same time P-40E perfoms wonderfully at high altitudes (with a single-stage supercharger)

You say too many PKs in russian planes.. now what makes you think I-16 and I-153 or Yaks or Lagg3s should have protection for the pilot? When it does not, well what do you think for plane with open canopy. Or Yak, with no virtual armor penetration for the pilot. While the germans progressively increased armor for the pilot russians did the opposite: make the planes as light as possible and remove the extra armor to make planes more nimble. Now you can choose which side chose the correct step for fighter development.

You say Yak-1 and Lagg-3 climb too bad. Well what makes you think a Yak1 or underpowered Lagg-3 with M105-PA engine should outclimb contemporary german planes? In real life even E-4 outclimbed Yak-1 and Lagg3, in game however not.

You say LA-5 does not turn well. Still it is faster than much improved LA-5F. Turn time at 1,000 m: 21 sec. That is one second worse than F-4 like it should. In real life early LA-5s were full of problems. Why do you think russians bothered devoleped LA-5FN, if the early LA-5s were so good you seem to think?

You say Fuel tanks of yak are too weak.. what makes you think planes with wooden structures should be so strong concerning durability? IRL Wood burned well, not a good material for fighter construction and did not do well in plane fuselage stressing. Now you wonder, how come nobody made wooden dive bombers ? Why do you think even the russians eventually changed to all metal planes, like LA-9 (first all metal Lavochkin) or Yak-3? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif In real life Russians lost most pilot in the Yaks. Why? Because it was the most lighest, with no any armor for the plane, because the aim for Yakolev-planes were to make them as light and agile as possible, but to use superior agility to beat heavier german planes. So sorry to say, I don't think early Yakolevs had selfsealing tanks. And one 20 mm hit to fuel tanks on wings of the Yak often set it to fire .. however it does not happen in game. What more do you want?

You say german 20 mm has too power and russian 20 mm is bad.. heh I think exactly the opposite. Russian Shvak had slighly bigger muzzle velocity, but it has smaller projectiles with less high explosive. Still Russian Shvak is much better than German MG151/20.. and you say German 20mm is better ? I just don't think this way.. And lot of others too.

You say Mk108 is too good .. then how come a Yak-3 can sustain up to 5 Mk108 hits and still fly away. While USAAF heavy bombers often went down with only couple of MK108 hits. This statement I found the most hilarious http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif So you obviously think Yaks could sustain more damage, than for example P-47 or B-17s?


Or sorry, if I misunderstood your post: Troll ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


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WooHooToYou
01-05-2004, 01:52 PM
Bird Strikes are not modelled in the game.

Is this a bug?

WooHooToYou
01-05-2004, 01:55 PM
Thinking about it, I NEVER see any birds flying around.

If a game has a LARGE amount of sky in it, you would expect to see some birds flying around.

This may also be a bug.

LuftKuhMist
01-05-2004, 02:00 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RussiaSuperPowr:


And the P40s of pearl harbor film are real planes restored from WW2....

Pls, believe me, these bugs should be fixed<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never heard of Softimage and maya? This is called 3D man. The Dinosaurs in Jurrassic Park are not restored archosaurus and the P40s and Zeros in Pearl Harbor are not real planes... I think there is about ONE zero still flying today... they surely destroyed it 56 times in pearl harbor...

I also think Ben Affleck is undermodelled, fix it please...

blabla0001
01-05-2004, 02:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
that is funny.. nothing RussiaSuperPowr wrote I can't agree with..

RussiaSuperPowr, you must be a true russian patriotic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He's just a trolling Luftwhiner trying to stir things up here.
Most likely the same person as all the "New" users who come here who happen to have a lot of information on past events.

Platypus_1.JaVA
01-05-2004, 02:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Vipez-:
that is funny.. nothing RussiaSuperPowr wrote I can't agree with..

RussiaSuperPowr, you must be a true russian patriotic http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


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Look at this guy's sig. I think he is the luftwhiner who wants to stirr things up http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


(nothing personal)

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Fehler
01-05-2004, 05:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bazzaah2:
Kate Beckinsale - she's a much sleeker bird and probably retains E better than the wobbly J-Lo in high G manoeuvers.

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Crashing online as :FI:SpinyNorman<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dont know. J-Lo seems to be a good turn and burner. She does seem to have low wing loading http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, But her sturdy gun platform would make for excellent target practice.. LOL

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blabla0001
01-05-2004, 05:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bazzaah2:
Kate Beckinsale - she's a much sleeker bird and probably retains E better than the wobbly J-Lo in high G manoeuvers.

http://www.endlager.net/fis/pix/banners/fis_banner_05.gif

Crashing online as :FI:SpinyNorman<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I dont know. J-Lo seems to be a good turn and burner. She does seem to have low wing loading http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, But her sturdy gun platform would make for excellent target practice.. LOL
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nah, J'Lo is tail heavy so therefore a tail dragger.
Not much for T&B movements.

griego
01-05-2004, 06:42 PM
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And pls, Im not whinning http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, I have flied a lot of VEF and VOW missions I think that this post is one of the most objetive threads of this forum ever written.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOMAO very funny stuff. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

HansKnappstick
01-08-2004, 03:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by bazzaah2:
Kate Beckinsale - she's a much sleeker bird and probably retains E better than the wobbly J-Lo in high G manoeuvers.

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I dont know. J-Lo seems to be a good turn and burner. She does seem to have low wing loading http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, But her sturdy gun platform would make for excellent target practice.. LOL

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Please post some graphical evidence for the discussion of these two models.

bazzaah2
01-08-2004, 05:23 AM
I want to get some hard evidence together but that Kate won't return my calls http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

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Aardvark892
01-11-2004, 10:09 AM
SO if this guys post was so ******ed, why are there three pages of posts arguing with him? Who thinks his argument even deserves a response? Come to think of it, I just bumped this nonsense, didn't I....

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