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crazyivan1970
07-20-2004, 12:13 PM
So?

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crazyivan1970
07-20-2004, 12:13 PM
So?

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

Farkitt_
07-20-2004, 12:17 PM
Not Telling http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You might need to start Coughing and go home early...

Yes thats right, I havn't tried it yet

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crazyivan1970
07-20-2004, 12:20 PM
The way my bosses are... death is the only way out LOL

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

BlitzPig_DDT
07-20-2004, 12:24 PM
Ivan, you gotta stop setting up those beach balls to be hit. It's hard to resist. lol

So, patch impressions. Well, my impression so far is that it's about 19.6MB.



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MEGILE
07-20-2004, 12:24 PM
from my 30 second experience online in RS_Dedicated, .50 cal SEEMS to have a tighter dispersion, and spitfire IX seems to perform a little better in slow turning fights...

but I'm still waiting for Warclouds to switch over..
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Farkitt_
07-20-2004, 12:25 PM
Fake your death then.

Gawd, Do I have to think of everything?

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Kasdeya
07-20-2004, 12:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Farkitt_:
Fake your death then.

Gawd, Do I have to think of everything?

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LMAO lets see you try it.

Only got two QMB missions on it and concur with Megile. Will try more tonight. cough cough, maybe this afternoon lol.

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PBNA-Boosher
07-20-2004, 12:28 PM
Work! BAH! I'm at camp! I don't get home for another 4 weeks!

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Shifty101
07-20-2004, 12:28 PM
It was a nice quick download and an easy install and I was in the cockpit of my P-47 to test the .50's. They definatly do less damage per bullet but the lack of dispersion is very visable, at convergence all 8 guns will hit the same point. Diving in on hapless Ju-88's I was able to pick out one of the engines, hold until I was just outside of my convergence and then let loose. The engine fell away in a burning hulk as did the rest of the plane moments later. Very nice indeed, the .50 whiners got what the wanted for sure! Next I hopped into the Hurricane to do some bombing runs. It can carry 2 FB-100 or 2 250lbs bombs, not very potent but better than nothing. Thats as far as I got into it though, I didn't really know what other changes to look for.

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Capt.England
07-20-2004, 12:31 PM
I just love the new F-15 and A-10 Jets! Also the new F-15 radar that makes it so uber!

Damn, I seem to of downloaded Lomac patch 1.02 by mistake. Sorry http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Britwhiner No.1

MEGILE
07-20-2004, 12:32 PM
LMAO capt.England.. but I agree, the F-15C is certainly uber now in LOMAC http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Farkitt_
07-20-2004, 12:35 PM
You lot spoil him.

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fordfan25
07-20-2004, 12:37 PM
as it sould be http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

OldMan____
07-20-2004, 12:37 PM
The change log lists nothing on .50 ..

can anyone explain?

If brute force does not solve your problem... you are not using enough!

VMF223_Anderson
07-20-2004, 12:38 PM
&lt;S!&gt;

So far it appears the British Roundals are better, especially on the Hurricane. Red/Blue and not the fuselage roundal, underwing appears same as fuselage side one, but alot better overall. Not sure what was the added NGEN and DGEN, not much difference yet, maybe in play, but no other additons as far as campaigns. Always got DCG to fix that western european airwar:-). M2's better in my mind, SpitIXc less twitchy on the stick and does overheat alot slower below 3000m. Only my initial impressions. Gonna see if the AI is tweaked a bit beater offline campaigning and also try the desert map and see if a British plane can get off the ground without overheating:-).

Gary
Hilo, Hawaii

kalo456
07-20-2004, 12:46 PM
Lol, I am stuck at work like everybody else http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
The indignity of it all!!! only 2 hours left for me though http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


For anyone that reads and is doing some initial testing; please check out the Hurricane overheating issue. Thats big. Did they fix the Merlin's in general or just tweak only the spit MkIX......

9./JG54_Kalo

theknightsofni
07-20-2004, 12:48 PM
the 50s seem quite good, took a p40 vs some early zeroes and all 4 of them lost their wings

MEGILE
07-20-2004, 12:56 PM
Suck my Hurri-bomber Wermacht!!!

http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/hurribomber.jpg


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Capt._Tenneal
07-20-2004, 12:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
LMAO capt.England.. but I agree, the F-15C is certainly uber now in LOMAC http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/p51darkj.jpg
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ameriwhiners there too ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MEGILE
07-20-2004, 12:57 PM
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You betcha.. Amraam sucks, F-15C AGP sucks, sucksucksuck..

and w00t its fixed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

However it was all true in the LOMAC case

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Xnomad
07-20-2004, 01:00 PM
The 109 compressibility on the elevator has been lessened, either that or my FFB stick isn't working anymore because it's not as tight as it used to be at 400 Km/h and I always used the tightness as a speed gauge so I feel like I'm flying too slow now even though I am not :-)

The Mk IX felt more manoeuvrable too in fact I felt like you can't do badly with it at all I shot down three ace Bf 109's like they were flown by monkeys.

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hughlb2
07-20-2004, 01:07 PM
New SpitIX FM brings a slight change to slow handling qualities (probably more changes but yet to try). It still feels heavy compared to the V, but within reason. When you first try it in 2.04 you may spin frequently(I didhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif) because you expect more. After about ten minutes of flying the IX I have started to ease off on the controls and am now noticing the changeshttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif As for the IXe, she is a X-Wing! Those pinpoint .50's and Hispano's will dominate! I havn't flown in the desert yet, but in Smolensk at low altitude I am yet to overheat the engine. I must stress that post 2.04 this aircraft is no n00b plane and must still be piloted carefully, especially if you choose to turnfight.

Xnomad is right though, it will give most aircraft a run for their money.

IVJG51_Swine
07-20-2004, 01:12 PM
20mms still seem good(unchanged)... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Osirisx9
07-20-2004, 01:12 PM
The P-47 kicks ars. The flight model could be different although there wasn't any documentation stating that it was changed.

RAF238thOsiris

_VR_ScorpionWorm
07-20-2004, 01:18 PM
not that anybody would care but the J8A got some F19 skins.

http://img55.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Scorpion08/Hurri-1.jpg

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gates123
07-20-2004, 01:23 PM
any news with the TA gunsite bug?

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Did anyone see that or was it just me?

crazyivan1970
07-20-2004, 01:25 PM
P-47D27 had SL speed adjusted.

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

triggerhappyfin
07-20-2004, 01:26 PM
Just flew some offline missions - AI wingman really gave me warnings and picked the ones on my six... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/53.gif

Heads-on firing was not a safe practice after all ?
Jussi Huotari: It was not specially recommendedÔ.....
And later, as the Russians were armed with 20mm cannons, it was unwise to meet them heads-on

jb5150
07-20-2004, 01:29 PM
2 hours and counting + an Hour drive home.....Damn...Yall suck

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MEGILE
07-20-2004, 01:30 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>P-47D27 had SL speed adjusted.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pray tell why it wasn't in the change log?

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tsisqua
07-20-2004, 01:37 PM
Not every change would be in the changelog. I don't remember the version that first gave the dust wake on takeoff, but that wasn't documented either. It was just a nice little extra that Oleg threw in there for us. All he had hinted at was "eye candy", said that it would be a "surprise".

There is also the problem of how changes in one line of code affect other lines of code. There may be changes that we will find that are unintentional.

Tsisqua

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F19_Olli72
07-20-2004, 01:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by _VR_ScorpionWorm:
not that anybody would care but the J8A got some F19 skins.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean...."not that anyone would care" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/sonar.gif

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Capt._Tenneal
07-20-2004, 01:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by tsisqua:
Not every change would be in the changelog. I don't remember the version that first gave the dust wake on takeoff, but that wasn't documented either. It was just a nice little extra that Oleg threw in there for us. All he had hinted at was "eye candy", said that it would be a "surprise".

There is also the problem of how changes in one line of code affect other lines of code. There may be changes that we will find that are unintentional.

Tsisqua

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<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

From UbiRazz's opening statement on the 2.03 changelog thread :

" I did manage to get this changelog for the 2.03 patch and you can be assured all these changes, and more, will be in the 2.04 patch. "

Zayets
07-20-2004, 01:48 PM
Well, Emil is still Emil and that's good. I had some nice kills chasing these new P38. As usual,they are no match for my uber Emil http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zayets out

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
07-20-2004, 01:49 PM
I had a feeling one you F19 guys would respond to that. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif Its just that some players dont value and rocognize how good this plane is(I know it the Swedish version of the Gladiator). I think its an awesome addition to FB.

Oh and before I forget......THE HURRIBOMBER IS BADA**, somebody told me that the bombs werent capable of blowing up squat when I said I was only waiting for the Hurribomber.....take it for a spin, both load outs, FAB 100 and 250Lbs, I was taking out tanks till no end(unlimited ammo to see their potential at different targets). http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Heres another to add to my ground pounding lineup. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

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Zayets
07-20-2004, 01:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
Suck my Hurri-bomber Wermacht!!!

http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/hurribomber.jpg


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http://www.5thairforce.com/e107_files/public/p51lightj.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dan.king2/Battle%20Of%20The%20Appliances.jpg

Zayets out

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Xnomad
07-20-2004, 02:00 PM
I'm starting to think it is my stick as all the planes feel a bit lighter now, but I'm pretty certain the 109 pulls up better at high speeds, I only tried out the G-6 did anyone else find this or am I on drugs?

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Zayets
07-20-2004, 02:03 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Xnomad:
[...] I only tried out the G-6 did anyone else find this or am I on drugs?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now,what do you think ? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Zayets out

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tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-20-2004, 02:22 PM
Well I guess one thing is garunteed the forum's should be a little more 'saner' than usual for all of about hmmm lemme see 2weeks? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

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Owlsphone
07-20-2004, 02:29 PM
The .50 cals definately have been changed. They are all firing on more or less of the same plane. The bullets do seem a little weaker, but at convergence they are nasty. I actually hit a guy 800 meters away with the new .50 cals.
The P51 can dive now! I was doing 880 km/h and was able to pull out of it unharmed. No more diving away from a Mustang.

The Spit IX absolutely climbs better. I had an angle of attack like never before in a climb and was sustaining 240 km/h. It does overheat slower, but seems to kill the engine once it does overheat. My bet is that the P51 and the Spit are gonna be called noob planes blah blah blah.

Let the Luftwhining begin.

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woofiedog
07-20-2004, 02:33 PM
Tryed the Hurricane againest some ground Targets... and Mint!
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gifThank's Oleg!
Now the Desert War will Heat up a Bit!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif
PS... F19_Olli72 Great Picture for your Posting!
The Gladator looks a little Well Done. I'm still working on flying the Fiat 50 correctly... both aircraft Gladator and the Fiat 50 are Great Aircraft in my book. Just wanted to say Mint picture though. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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rpkiller
07-20-2004, 02:37 PM
I may be the only one to have this effect but:

THE SOUND IS MUCH, MUCH BETTERhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm running an Audigy 2 and gone are the crackles, the gun sounds are less rumbly and clearer, the engines sound throatier & noisier, and the fly by and external views sound way better. Maybe they've fixed it for this card, but i've definitely notived a significant improviement - any comments anyone http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rp

BS87
07-20-2004, 02:38 PM
The .50s are definatly as tight as the other HMGs now, and i *know* some people won't like this, even though they do less dammage per bullet. But, it Seems like they do, since more bullets are hitting. Get ready for a whole new round of .50 threads ivan, we'll have those who think they are uber, and those who are used to spray and pray with them, and think they were nerfed.

rpkiller
07-20-2004, 02:39 PM
I repeat THE SOUND (on my system) is WAY, WAY BETTER


B E T T E R S O U N D ! ! ! ! ! ! ! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

(better sound)
((sorry to shout))

rpkiller
07-20-2004, 02:40 PM
(better sound)

_VR_ScorpionWorm
07-20-2004, 02:42 PM
Hey rpkiller....have better sound? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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Owlsphone
07-20-2004, 02:42 PM
haha we got it rpkiller. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I even tried doing ground pounding in my Mustang. With the tight convergence this thing is a beast even taking on ground targets.

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rpkiller
07-20-2004, 02:43 PM
i'm not sure if i mentioned this; but the sound is a bit better http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

rpkiller
07-20-2004, 02:44 PM
... COUGH ** (bettersound) COUGH

Bob the Pilot
07-20-2004, 02:46 PM
hmmm... lots of things that are hidden http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif bombs for hurricaneIIb, bombs & rockets for i-185 or whatever its called and new rockets for the il-2 :O and that i found just by browsing through the aircraft list for 20 seconds.. who knows what's hidden in there http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crazyivan1970
07-20-2004, 02:46 PM
I heard Late 109s got better elevator authority at high speed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

DuxCorvan
07-20-2004, 02:52 PM
Most planes have a better 'feel'. Fw 190 seems a little less 'touchy' about spins in turns, Spitfire IX for sure turns better, and Komet is more unstable, but glides incredibly.

The .50s are weaker but more accurate -and yes, they make more sense this way. The 'Emil' cockpit texture bug is fixed.

And sound just looks the same, but seems to work better. But, don't know if they have touched it at all.

As for DGen changes, does someone know what they are? Maybe it now can accept planes such as Komet and Bf 109Z, and Go 229 is not listed as Russian any more. Maybe they have also implemented 2.01 new planes such as 190A-6 and new Laggs to appear as AI. Any idea?

BS87
07-20-2004, 02:54 PM
Also, the LW 30mm and *maybe* the 20mm might have been tweaked, but i'm not sure. In quick tests, the mk018 seemed to take down P47s, P51s, and spits easier, but it still takes 3-4 hits somtimes. Note- most of the time 2 hits was enough to put any aircraft out of fighting ability, but sometimes it took 5+ hits for a strcutural failure. Now, the 20mm is wierd as always. Sometimes, i ripped wings and tails off with ~2 hits, on all the planes. Other times they took 14+ hits before going down. I still don't get LW 20mm.

tHeBaLrOgRoCkS
07-20-2004, 03:02 PM
Great now I can try skip bombing in a Hurricane mwuahahahahahhahahahha !!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/784.gif

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tsisqua
07-20-2004, 03:05 PM
Ivan. PT.

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07-20-2004, 03:11 PM
The LW 20mm should be a killer, but it never has been in FB. I can't wait to try it out.

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Bearcat99
07-20-2004, 03:16 PM
The only beef I have so far is the compass of the P-38... it is stuck. Im going to have to put that crew chief on report if he doesnt fix it.... It could be a hassle when trying to navigate.. without a speedbar or floatring gauges... other wise the patch is PDG.

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diomedes33
07-20-2004, 03:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by x__CRASH__x:
The LW 20mm should be a killer, but it never has been in FB. I can't wait to try it out.

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Its moody like bs87 said.

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Bob the Pilot
07-20-2004, 03:30 PM
ah the new il-2 rocket ROFS-132 mm is for soft targets and has a large radius like HVAR. it is however not effective against armor. not even maultier trucks.

horseback
07-20-2004, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Owlsphone:
I even tried doing ground pounding in my Mustang. With the tight convergence this thing is a beast even taking on ground targets.

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Yeah, but can you take out a Tiger? A thousand schlachtwhiners are waiting...

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delta_9_tetra
07-20-2004, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob the Pilot:
ah the new il-2 rocket ROFS-132 mm is for soft targets and has a large radius like HVAR. it is however not effective against armor. not even maultier trucks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Disagree, I've been blowing up tanks with those rockets. Of course you may need to get a direct hit on the tank.

fordfan25
07-20-2004, 03:49 PM
i noticed it sounds better to.even though i have to keep my sound options low to get decent fps.

Bob the Pilot
07-20-2004, 03:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by delta_9_tetra:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob the Pilot:
ah the new il-2 rocket ROFS-132 mm is for soft targets and has a large radius like HVAR. it is however not effective against armor. not even maultier trucks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Disagree, I've been blowing up tanks with those rockets. Of course you may need to get a direct hit on the tank.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

... well duh. it doesn't penetrate the frontal armor of a PZ3. but it is obviously meant to be used like HVAR, since we already have two armor piercing rockets that have no fragmentation effect!

IVJG51_Swine
07-20-2004, 04:12 PM
I didn't notice a change with the 109 elevator authority. Maybe it's just me or my joystick?????

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_VR_ScorpionWorm
07-20-2004, 04:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob the Pilot:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by delta_9_tetra:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob the Pilot:
ah the new il-2 rocket ROFS-132 mm is for soft targets and has a large radius like HVAR. it is however not effective against armor. not even maultier trucks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Disagree, I've been blowing up tanks with those rockets. Of course you may need to get a direct hit on the tank.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

... well duh. it doesn't penetrate the frontal armor of a PZ3. but it is obviously meant to be used like HVAR, since we already have two armor piercing rockets that have no fragmentation effect!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you want to be more effective always attack the tank from the rear where they are more vulnerable. Why would somebody want to try to hit a tank with alot of frontal armor when they can hit the rear with the engine and less armor? Of course, from the side can be just as effective.http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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DangerForward
07-20-2004, 04:22 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Owlsphone:
The .50 cals definately have been changed. They are all firing on more or less of the same plane. The bullets do seem a little weaker, but at convergence they are nasty. I actually hit a guy 800 meters away with the new .50 cals.
The P51 can dive now! I was doing 880 km/h and was able to pull out of it unharmed. No more diving away from a Mustang.

The Spit IX absolutely climbs better. I had an angle of attack like never before in a climb and was sustaining 240 km/h. It does overheat slower, but seems to kill the engine once it does overheat. My bet is that the P51 and the Spit are gonna be called noob planes blah blah blah.

Let the Luftwhining begin.

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I'd say the P51 isn't quite the slap it around the sky plane it used to be, which is to say it feels more like a plane now. It was nice to feel that it would actually stall if I abused it.

From dogfighting against the P47, its performance seems better, harder to put the smackdown on.

The 109K feels different, but I can't put my finger on what has changed.

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CrazySchmidt
07-20-2004, 04:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Owlsphone:
haha we got it rpkiller. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I even tried doing ground pounding in my Mustang. With the tight convergence this thing is a beast even taking on ground targets.

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Owlsphone, that eagle skin in your sig looks awesome. Where can I download it?

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Mitlov47
07-20-2004, 04:33 PM
Biggest change I noticed: the Sturmovik no longer gets "control surface damaged" from the first flak burst near it. It still disintegrates after several hits, but you can keep control of elevators/ailerons/rudders etc until you're torn to ribbons. Before, I'd always send a barely-scratched Sturmovik augering into the ground because I had lost control of it with the first wave of flak bursts.

The new 50s are also really good for ground-pounding. The old ones were TOO good against ground targets. Due to the wide dispersal and high power-per-bullet, you could point your crosshairs at the center of a train, hold down the trigger for one second, and every single train car would blow up. Now, you get a very nice movie-like effect of two lines of "puffs" tracing across the ground. You can almost see Bruce Willis/Vin Diesel/etc running in front of them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bombing with a Hurricane is way fun. Shame it lacks armor relative to most ground-pounders--it gets cut to ribbons by ground-fire FAST.

The new Sturmovik's rockets are a RIOT. Nothing more fun than firing a pair into a parking lot of closely-packed vehicles. 16 kills in one boom!

The sound is way better--especially your guns from an outside view.

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|CoB|_Spectre
07-20-2004, 04:51 PM
It may seem a small thing, but I am glad to see the A6M models no longer have tailwheels that bounce like kangaroos while taxiing. It also seems the infernal wing waddling has been toned down, even on turf airfields. I no longer feel like I'm in the Baja 1000 just going to and from the runway. A definite improvement, in my opinion.

EmbarkChief
07-20-2004, 04:55 PM
Umm, the fire extinguishers in the P-38 still work... At least they deploy with the smoke effect still, haven't caught an engine on fire yet....

BlitzPig_DDT
07-20-2004, 04:57 PM
Not really sure why they bothered.

The 190A4 still sucks balls (the 190s have been hobbled ever since FB 1.0 came out), the D-10 jug has been knocked, and now the 109Fs approach unusable in the 450kph area.

AND, the LW jet ASIs still haven't been fixed.

2.02 was better. Unfortunately, offline has always been largle boring (because it was neglected), so that means I'm forced into using a de-evolutionary patch.

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HH Quazi
07-20-2004, 05:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
The only beef I have so far is the compass of the P-38... it is stuck. Im going to have to put that crew chief on report if he doesnt fix it.... It could be a hassle when trying to navigate.. without a speedbar or floatring gauges... other wise the patch is PDG.

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Mine works fine BC. Ummm?

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Huxley_S
07-20-2004, 05:21 PM
The P47 feels a bit heavier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Merlin (FZG_Immel)
07-20-2004, 06:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mitlov47:
Biggest change I noticed: the Sturmovik no longer gets "control surface damaged" from the first flak burst near it. It still disintegrates after several hits, but you can keep control of elevators/ailerons/rudders etc until you're torn to ribbons. Before, I'd always send a barely-scratched Sturmovik augering into the ground because I had lost control of it with the first wave of flak bursts.

The new 50s are also really good for ground-pounding. The old ones were TOO good against ground targets. Due to the wide dispersal and high power-per-bullet, you could point your crosshairs at the center of a train, hold down the trigger for one second, and every single train car would blow up. Now, you get a very nice movie-like effect of two lines of "puffs" tracing across the ground. You can almost see Bruce Willis/Vin Diesel/etc running in front of them http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bombing with a Hurricane is way fun. Shame it lacks armor relative to most ground-pounders--it gets cut to ribbons by ground-fire FAST.

The new Sturmovik's rockets are a RIOT. Nothing more fun than firing a pair into a parking lot of closely-packed vehicles. 16 kills in one boom!

The sound is way better--especially your guns from an outside view.

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Korolov
07-20-2004, 07:11 PM
The Magnetic Heading Tape, to the right of the dial compass and ADF - the heading tape seems to be messed up and uses a similar axis to the ADF.

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DONB3397
07-20-2004, 07:12 PM
I've had it up for a couple of hours, now. Tried everything but beating up the Spits in the desert, so don't know about the overheating issue. But everything else feels like your car when it's been tuned just right. All the buttons do what they're supposed to do, the Zeke's tail wheel doesn't bounce like beach ball, and the Hurri MkII carries bombs. I'll wait for the ballistics guys to comment on the .50's; I still have to aim carefully and get in close.

So it seems to be a nice upgrade; not dramatic, but still a noticeable improvement in some areas. Thanks to 1C.

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Owlsphone
07-20-2004, 08:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CrazySchmidt:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Owlsphone:
haha we got it rpkiller. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

I even tried doing ground pounding in my Mustang. With the tight convergence this thing is a beast even taking on ground targets.

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Owlsphone, that eagle skin in your sig looks awesome. Where can I download it?

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Thanks for the compliment. I have been getting requests lately for the skin so I'm going to be releasing it soon along with a P47 one I made. Look for it shortly.

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easymo
07-20-2004, 09:07 PM
Looks like Oleg kept his word, and dumbed down the .50's

You would have upstanding pilots everywhere getting the cheater label and whatever comes with it. Even if 80% of the accusers were right, this would be unnacceptable.
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Obi_Kwiet
07-20-2004, 09:17 PM
So, every one happy with the .50's now? No more whining? Are the .50's 2.02 or diffrent?

Udidtoo
07-20-2004, 09:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Obi_Kwiet:
So, every one happy with the .50's now? No more whining? Are the .50's 2.02 or diffrent?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My new .50's will neither

A.Saw in half a destroyer or
B. Kill a Tiger tank

I did however save a ton of money by switching my car insurance to Gieko. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seriously....nice tight cone of fire. Have mine set to 225 and with a steady hand they do substantial damage with even a small burst.

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Mitlov47
07-20-2004, 10:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by delta_9_tetra:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bob the Pilot:
ah the new il-2 rocket ROFS-132 mm is for soft targets and has a large radius like HVAR. it is however not effective against armor. not even maultier trucks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Disagree, I've been blowing up tanks with those rockets. Of course you may need to get a direct hit on the tank.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, if you get a direct hit on the rear of a tank with an ROFS, it'll pop.

Another thing I've noticed about them: they seem to have an area effect only if they hit the ground. If they hit a vehicle itself, it seems like they just destroy that vehicle. Could someone confirm this? It may have just been bum luck, but I think this happened to me once or twice.

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StellarRat
07-20-2004, 11:38 PM
The .50s are good now. However, if you are a bad shot then you're going to be disappointed. The cone is tight and you have to be right on the mark. When you hit you do a lot of damage even with a short burst. I downed four planes tonight with 1/2 second burst and sawed both wings off an I-16 with a one second shot. They are not uber weapons by any means though. The Axis planes were still getting plenty of kills.

woofiedog
07-20-2004, 11:58 PM
I was flying a ME-109 Ez7 againest a Yak 1 and won!!!!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
Wow... is that a change or what and I really doen't fly the Me's that much. Can it be that I'm flying better... Can't Be!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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alarmer
07-21-2004, 12:16 AM
Tryed out P51 vs 109G6. 109 lost its wing, flamed its engine and the tail came off with 1 second burst. I mean if this isnt good enough for the US boys I wonder what is.

It seem that late 109 got little more elevator authority in high speed.

P51 elevator authority still seems bit excessive compared to other planes (I say "it seems" since I dont know anything about P51). You must use silk gloves in high speed to avoid black outs. Good for experienced pilot bad for noob.

Fehler
07-21-2004, 02:38 AM
The German 20mm (mm standing for marshmallow) still have not returned to their 1.22 glory. The 190 "Fuel leak" bug appears to be fixed, but honestly, I tried really hard not to get shot tonight, so the jury is still out on this one.

The 50 cals dont shoot like shotguns now which means that I can get away from the spray and pray types a lot easier (Thanks Gib) http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The Spit seems to turn a lot better as it should.

All in all, it's a keeper.

It might be me, but stalls dont seem so "Sharp" now, which is also good in my opinion; but I could be wrong on all of this... http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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WOLFMondo
07-21-2004, 02:44 AM
Did something change with the P47D27 between the last official patch and this one?

Its roll seems to have increased, a little more, especially at lower speeds, it has a little better energy retention and zoom climb and the dive has better acceleration with less vibration at 800+kph. It feels heavy at the same time the engine is a little more powerful.

Or is it just me??

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BennyMoore
07-21-2004, 03:32 AM
Although I was on the fifty caliber whiner side, I now think that the dispersion is a bit too tight. I agree with Gibbage; all heavy machine guns should be held to the same general standard, and it should be somewhere between the old fifties and the Russian machine guns.

Anyway, I may be deaf but I didn't hear any difference with the sounds.

SeaFireLIV
07-21-2004, 03:38 AM
Ok, my impressions only so far:

Spit turns nicely, some expected more, but I`m happy with it.

DGEN:
Differences I`ve noticed.
1. Battles seem a lot more hectic, there seems to be more engagements.

2. Bombers seem to attack from quite high altitude now.

3. Was escorted by Pe2 type fighters- that`s never happened before.

AI friendly fighters really go for those kills (sometimes taking mine).

Can`t see much difference yet with the FF thing or enemy fighters, but they were relatively ok anyway.

Oh yes, there seems to be a larger blast radius to bombs, rockets...

Still testing...

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WUAF_Badsight
07-21-2004, 03:52 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BennyMoore:
Although I was on the fifty caliber whiner side, I now think that the dispersion is a bit too tight. I agree with Gibbage; all heavy machine guns should be held to the same general standard, and it should be somewhere between the old fifties and the Russian machine guns.
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you is exactly right benny

& Fehler i know EXACTLY what you mean about FB v1.22

that patch was like a ...... "FINALLY ! ! ! !"

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RAAF_Edin
07-21-2004, 05:41 AM
To me the ships definitely appear at longer distance... if I'm right this is a very nice improvement http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

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OldMan____
07-21-2004, 06:00 AM
I THINK i feel my 190 a little bit different.. but can't say wath exaclty. or even be sure. Can anyone confirm this?

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DuxCorvan
07-21-2004, 10:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OldMan____:
I THINK i feel my 190 a little bit different.. but can't say wath exaclty. or even be sure. Can anyone confirm this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I feel it like being not so 'touchy' and prone to spins. Stalls feel more 'natural'. But it could be I'm getting used to sensitive controls...

BS87
07-21-2004, 12:10 PM
Also, there AI is more defined between levels of skill, IE you can see the difference. I was flying against some rookie 109s and 190s go for some target practice with the new .50s, and if the AI gets hit or sees you coming, alot of times, they pull up hard, stalling out.

Afreaka
07-21-2004, 01:33 PM
No Ju88 in patch so whats the catch? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/34.gif

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