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Hans684
08-01-2015, 10:03 AM
Stumbled across this in reddit, it's from the player feedback vid.
https://www.reddit.com/r/assassinscreed/comments/3fcit1/spoilers_syndicate_spoilers_from_new_video_do_not/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elliotson is the doctor seen in the picture with all the Templar(that I can't find again, so if anyone git I'd like it posted here). He is also a friend if Charles ****ens along with one George Cattermole. He dies 29 July 1868.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cattermole could be a Templar but he also dies 24 July 1868.(thank the user oceanking for finding George)
The reddit link also mention a Rupert Ferris but I can't find anything, so he's most likely fictional.

Your toughs?

Namikaze_17
08-01-2015, 10:33 AM
I expected a crazy dude by the name, but he sounds rather nice going by the wiki( The game could prove otherwise though).

George may also be a Templar.

As for Rupert? Yeah, he's probably another Roderick Bulmer.

Hans684
08-01-2015, 11:33 AM
I expected a crazy dude by the name, but he sounds rather nice going by the wiki( The game could prove otherwise though).

A nice guy with some legit research that gets improved by someone else in the future along with some frauds that leads to bad reputation and a death as a poor man.


George may also be a Templar.

A painter, I guess it can work. Germain was a blacksmith.


As for Rupert? Yeah, he's probably another Roderick Bulmer.

Looks like it. So we have 3 that's confirmed and one suspected Templar.

Hans684
08-01-2015, 12:10 PM
Other possible Templars that died in 1868.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Baring,_3rd_Baron_Ashburton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_****son_Archibald

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_White,_2nd_Earl_of_Bantry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Lowth_Badeley

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Arbuthnot_(British_Army_officer)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Anderson_(businessman)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Nevill,_4th_Earl_of_Abergavenny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Abdy,_7th_Baronet

I'll update it.

It's a long list. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:1868_deaths&pageuntil=Crowe%2C+Eyre+Evans%0AEyre+Evans+Crowe#m w-pages

Jessigirl2013
08-01-2015, 12:45 PM
What's this a spoiler for?

Hans684
08-01-2015, 12:48 PM
What's this a spoiler for?

Who's a Templar and if course their death. If we can find every historical Templar we can also find the order they died in, meaning it's easier to know who the Grand Master is.

Jessigirl2013
08-01-2015, 12:57 PM
Who's a Templar and if course their death. If we can find every historical Templar we can also find the order they died in, meaning it's easier to know who the Grand Master is.

Oh ok ;) Wasn't sure if it was for specific media.

VestigialLlama4
08-01-2015, 01:12 PM
I guess Ubisoft is going down the Alan Moore FROM HELL path, take a perfectly ordinary medical professional and make him a psychopathic member of a secret society. Only you know without the genius of Alan Moore.

Namikaze_17
08-01-2015, 01:19 PM
I guess Ubisoft is going down the Alan Moore FROM HELL path, take a perfectly ordinary medical professional and make him a psychopathic member of a secret society. Only you know without the genius of Alan Moore.

So another Garnier then...

Though, it's too early to tell now I guess.


A nice guy with some legit research that gets improved by someone else in the future along with some frauds that leads to bad reputation and a death as a poor man.

Oh, man. :(

Hans684
08-01-2015, 01:29 PM
Oh, man. :(

But no redeeming qualities as he's involved with child slavery at industries and their gang control.

VestigialLlama4
08-01-2015, 01:42 PM
So another Garnier then...

Undoubtedly. LaTouche was another Majd Addin, only more sympathetic. This guy was friends of famous English writers so its a little weird if they are making him a Templar.

The only thing showing that Elliotson is a bad guy is that he's into phrenology, a now-discredited pseudoscience that is heavily racist. He was also into mesmerism and occult.

Jessigirl2013
08-01-2015, 04:10 PM
Undoubtedly. LaTouche was another Majd Addin, only more sympathetic. This guy was friends of famous English writers so its a little weird if they are making him a Templar.

The only thing showing that Elliotson is a bad guy is that he's into phrenology, a now-discredited pseudoscience that is heavily racist. He was also into mesmerism and occult.


This is a bit off topic, But has racism ever been tackled in a AC game?
I don't think it has, not really.

Hans684
08-01-2015, 09:21 PM
From Access The Animus on Facebook. It's from the player feedback video, it confirms he's a Templar.

- The entry points of the building will be shown on the map
- The target of the mission in the screenshots is called Dr. Elliotson, who matches Dr. John Elliotson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elliotson), one of the first doctors to use and promote the stethoscope and one of the first in Britain to use acupuncture. He was renowned for both his diagnostic skills as a clinician and his extremely strong prescriptions (according to Wikipedia). Elliotson died on July 29, 1868 and was a friend of Charles ****ens.
- Interestingly enough, two of the side activities of the mission are "Stop the electroconvulsive therapy session" and "Take the place of a corpse inside the morgue"
- It seems that the circular HUD element around Jacob will not just show when and from where he is chased by guards, but also other activities / opportunities (such as what seems to be eavesdropping)
- Lockpicking apparently will make a comeback

Jessigirl2013
08-02-2015, 01:46 PM
From Access The Animus on Facebook. It's from the player feedback video, it confirms he's a Templar.

- The entry points of the building will be shown on the map
- The target of the mission in the screenshots is called Dr. Elliotson, who matches Dr. John Elliotson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elliotson), one of the first doctors to use and promote the stethoscope and one of the first in Britain to use acupuncture. He was renowned for both his diagnostic skills as a clinician and his extremely strong prescriptions (according to Wikipedia). Elliotson died on July 29, 1868 and was a friend of Charles ****ens.
- Interestingly enough, two of the side activities of the mission are "Stop the electroconvulsive therapy session" and "Take the place of a corpse inside the morgue"
- It seems that the circular HUD element around Jacob will not just show when and from where he is chased by guards, but also other activities / opportunities (such as what seems to be eavesdropping)
- Lockpicking apparently will make a comeback

Cool where did you get this information about the missions ;) Bit spoilerish

I HATED eavesdropping ;) worse than tailing IMO.
Lockpickings cool, I preferred ACIIIs version over Unity though <----- Which do you prefer?

Hans684
08-02-2015, 02:31 PM
Cool where did you get this information about the missions ;) Bit spoilerish

There is spoilers in the tile of this thread, watch at your own risk.


I HATED eavesdropping ;) worse than tailing IMO.

I like it, eavesdropping allow us to know the motives of targets and gives them an opportunity to develop. It`s good story wise.


Lockpickings cool, I preferred ACIIIs version over Unity though <----- Which do you prefer?

Black Flag, just kicking it.

Jessigirl2013
08-02-2015, 03:13 PM
There is spoilers in the tile of this thread, watch at your own risk.
Fair point ;) wasn't expecting it though. Considering most information on this thread wasn't to do with Syndicates main story ;)




I like it, eavesdropping allow us to know the motives of targets and gives them an opportunity to develop. It`s good story wise.


I like this when it is done with tailing but not eavesdropping.
Because when you are bad at it (like me ) you can miss out on important dialogue;)




Black Flag, just kicking it.

Didn't work with doors though;) ... Well... I don't think it did ;)

Hans684
08-02-2015, 03:20 PM
Fair point ;) wasn't expecting it though. Considering most information on this thread wasn't to do with Syndicates main story ;)

Who`s a Templar or not is part of the main story.


I like this when it is done with tailing but not eavesdropping.
Because when you are bad at it (like me ) you can miss out on important dialogue;)

Fair enough.


Didn't work with doors though;) ... Well... I don't think it did ;)

It does in cutscenes.

For doors i prefer Unity, for chests i prefer Black Flag.

Jessigirl2013
08-02-2015, 03:52 PM
Who`s a Templar or not is part of the main story.
I know ;) I'm just butthurt I saw a spoiler to the story ;)




Fair enough.
;)




It does in cutscenes.

I had a feeling it did :rolleyes:


For doors i prefer Unity, for chests i prefer Black Flag.

I agree BF chests ;) But I think ACIII could be good with doors.
I didn't like having that "skill" thing in Unity ;)

Hans684
08-02-2015, 03:59 PM
I know ;) I'm just butthurt I saw a spoiler to the story ;)

Fair enough.



I had a feeling it did :rolleyes:

Pisspot.


I agree BF chests ;) But I think ACIII could be good with doors.
I didn't like having that "skill" thing in Unity ;)

Fair enough.

Jessigirl2013
08-02-2015, 04:03 PM
Fair enough.




Pisspot.



Fair enough.

:rolleyes:

Hans684
08-03-2015, 04:07 PM
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11802690_683158378451741_8384338831612387367_o.jpg ?dl=1

Rupert Ferris isn't a main target and is fictional. I suspect the same about Roderick Bulmer.

Jessigirl2013
08-03-2015, 04:50 PM
From Access The Animus on Facebook. It's from the player feedback video, it confirms he's a Templar.

- The entry points of the building will be shown on the map
- The target of the mission in the screenshots is called Dr. Elliotson, who matches Dr. John Elliotson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elliotson), one of the first doctors to use and promote the stethoscope and one of the first in Britain to use acupuncture. He was renowned for both his diagnostic skills as a clinician and his extremely strong prescriptions (according to Wikipedia). Elliotson died on July 29, 1868 and was a friend of Charles ****ens.
- Interestingly enough, two of the side activities of the mission are "Stop the electroconvulsive therapy session" and "Take the place of a corpse inside the morgue"
- It seems that the circular HUD element around Jacob will not just show when and from where he is chased by guards, but also other activities / opportunities (such as what seems to be eavesdropping)
- Lockpicking apparently will make a comeback
Still wondering where this information is from? Anyone know?
Also knowing where entry points are, spoil the mystery and puzzle IMO ;) wonder if you can turn it off.

Hans684
08-03-2015, 09:36 PM
Still wondering where this information is from? Anyone know?
Also knowing where entry points are, spoil the mystery and puzzle IMO ;) wonder if you can turn it off.

Access The Animus on Facebook.

Jessigirl2013
08-03-2015, 10:25 PM
Access The Animus on Facebook.

Thanks ;)
Silly me, you said that in the OP;)